Dont want an argument but...

[Guest 2GOOD]

Sully the reason the farmers slam the door in your face is because they have had so meany people who think the land is theres. Farmers get a harsh deal in certain areas, and i know this because i work on a farm part time.

 

How would you feel if you couldnt leave your diesel tank unlocked, cant leave tractors in field, come to a field to find someone has stolen your gates and water troughs etc.

I remember one night working late when the local waste of spece stopped in to ask for a tow out a feld. (He was in one of OUR fields heding towards the digger to empty it). Well you can immagine what happened.

 

In summary, DONT jump in with both feet first and ask for lurcher work, thats a big no no. Try and get in some other way (ferreting, moles, pigeons )etc.

 

I think you sound like a genuine bloke, the kind this sport really needs. Do your best pal, and try not to tarnich the name by thinking as others do that it is there right to go where they please and take what they want.

 

Boils my piss to see some peoples attitude these days.

Nothing better than towny, chavvy little pricks that should do the legwork before bamming someone off.

 

Keep trying mate, theres nothing better than having pleanty of ground thats all legit. Takes the heat off you working your dogs.

Cheers FTB

FTB you got room for one more on your patch ,im looking to become a good citizen ,i will behave mabe you might be able to show me the eror of my ways ,and make me into a roll model and i wonder how these people got the land in the first place ,i mean hundreds of years ago when it did not belong to any one ,what gave them the right to say ,this is mine .

Edited March 19, 2010 by 2GOOD

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Theirs no big deal as long as no damage or theft of other things besides rabbits is done

 

 

But you have to look at it from there side mate.

Some farmers that get a raw deal as soon as they see a lamp are on the phone to the screws.

Idiots with dogs have dragged all our names through the mud to an extent than some farmers assosciate dogmen with thieves.

 

I cant say i blame tham. It must be so disheartening to work you fingers to the bone for some dole scrounge to come and drive over your fields leaving a trail of destruction.

 

We owe it to the sport to portray it in a good light, so use your heads guys and do it the way it has always been done.

 

FTB

[poacher3161 1,766]

Theirs no big deal as long as no damage or theft of other things besides rabbits is done

 

 

But you have to look at it from there side mate.

Some farmers that get a raw deal as soon as they see a lamp are on the phone to the screws.

Idiots with dogs have dragged all our names through the mud to an extent than some farmers assosciate dogmen with thieves.

 

I cant say i blame tham. It must be so disheartening to work you fingers to the bone for some dole scrounge to come and drive over your fields leaving a trail of destruction.

 

We owe it to the sport to portray it in a good light, so use your heads guys and do it the way it has always been done.

 

FTB

But you are tarring all poachers with the same brush wat about keepers shooting everthing in sight its ok because some one gave them permission.

[Sully 3]

Fight the Ban, 100% with you, look please fella's lets not get into an argument at allover this debate, I was really hoping to have a grown up debate on something we all feel passionate about, so I really ask for us all to keep on the level and not make it a have permission Vs a have no permission slanging match, I deplore thieveing in anyway, but thats the problem, I do feel guilty and am not proud of the situation, but like I said, I have loved and love my dogs very much, and the very thought of my dogs working, usung instinct laid down over thousands of Years makes me shiver with excitement, how on erth can me bring field sports into our next generation, my boys sit on there own in their bedroom hooked up to msn, face book and xbox, yet I cant get them out for an hours lamping with their old man, not right is it ?

[whin 463]

what youve never poached fight the ban and you never jumpped the fence to get ameal or a few quid , localy big estates there was never achance to get coursing permision wasnt happenin no mattter what money , pheasants ye but not coursing ferreting ye but not coursing , so what do you do just cahase the odd rabbit or go coursing more hares at one time localy than rabbs etc

[boyo 1,398]

up untill fairly recent years i have never had permission and not for the want of trying but my dogs always had plenty of work. i also used to take my son out poaching with me and as i once told a supervisor who was a anti and was on my shift if the only trouble my son brings home if a fine for poaching then not only will i be happy but ille pay the fine as well for him the look on his face i can still see 30 odd years later. yes it is easier to be not looking over your shoulder all the time when you have permission but also truthfully the little bit extra something is not there when your on permission .you lot that do it will know what i mean even driving to and from the drop off theres always that extra buzz about it when you get in to the first feild away from the vehicle and the same when going back to it . i would say the only time i feel a lot happier on permission is when retreiving long ears because the penalties nowadays are so harsh and unrealistic if caught after them. not everyone will agree with what is posted but thats life each to their own .

[whin 463]

if you deplore taking abit wild game for the dinner dont run lurchers cause on achase they will not stop on your boundary and thats poaching cant be botherd listning to peole who have not been brought up in the great game and all this rightoues stuff etc

[Guest 2GOOD]

Fight the Ban, 100% with you, look please fella's lets not get into an argument at allover this debate, I was really hoping to have a grown up debate on something we all feel passionate about, so I really ask for us all to keep on the level and not make it a have permission Vs a have no permission slanging match, I deplore thieveing in anyway, but thats the problem, I do feel guilty and am not proud of the situation, but like I said, I have loved and love my dogs very much, and the very thought of my dogs working, usung instinct laid down over thousands of Years makes me shiver with excitement, how on erth can me bring field sports into our next generation, my boys sit on there own in their bedroom hooked up to msn, face book and xbox, yet I cant get them out for an hours lamping with their old man, not right is it ?

not looking to argue ,but im right that the land was just taken and pased down ,and the only way to get enough food then was to help your self .so nothing realy has changed ,unless you pay for it or beg ,or help your self .to what nature put there for free Edited March 19, 2010 by 2GOOD

[Mickey Finn 3,012]

I was born an outlaw and I'll stay one. HAHA!

 

 

 

 

The round house Outlaws a plenty here.

[poacher3161 1,766]

Fight the Ban, 100% with you, look please fella's lets not get into an argument at allover this debate, I was really hoping to have a grown up debate on something we all feel passionate about, so I really ask for us all to keep on the level and not make it a have permission Vs a have no permission slanging match, I deplore thieveing in anyway, but thats the problem, I do feel guilty and am not proud of the situation, but like I said, I have loved and love my dogs very much, and the very thought of my dogs working, usung instinct laid down over thousands of Years makes me shiver with excitement, how on erth can me bring field sports into our next generation, my boys sit on there own in their bedroom hooked up to msn, face book and xbox, yet I cant get them out for an hours lamping with their old man, not right is it ?

I fully understand were you are comeing from.Have you ever had an intrest in birds of prey or get the lads into that as theirs numerouse clubs to join and lads i know have been lucky getting quite a bit of permission with BOP.

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Cheers FTB

YOU ARE A SNOB

 

 

No mate. I tell it how it is because i have experience on both sides of the fence.

 

Luckily through work i have more permish than you could shake a stick at, but to lads who find it hard, do the legwork and it will pay off in the long run.

 

FTB

[Guest 2GOOD]

im off before it turns nastie its all going two well at the moment

[whin 463]

ps keepers do alot more killing than any body else as its there job , to keep vermin down ,land owners keepers are no better than a man corsing afew hares picking up the odd roadkill der rabbits whatever , we have not enough public land to hunt so thast why people poach if they could get it legaly ppeople would pay and ask i no beacause back in the states they have land for anybody to hunt etc so never go on about a bit of poaching as for some its either jump the fence or never hunt full stop , WE DONT HAVE PUBLIC LAND TO HUNT FULL STOP

[paulredtop 8]

start drinking in the pubs that the farmers drink in be freind them by them a drink an ask when there pissed

[Guest 2GOOD]

ps keepers do alot more killing than any body else as its there job , to keep vermin down ,land owners keepers are no better than a man corsing afew hares picking up the odd roadkill der rabbits whatever , we have not enough public land to hunt so thast why people poach if they could get it legaly ppeople would pay and ask i no beacause back in the states they have land for anybody to hunt etc so never go on about a bit of poaching as for some its either jump the fence or never hunt full stop , WE DONT HAVE PUBLIC LAND TO HUNT FULL STOP

yes we do whin its called SCOTLAND ,ask the english they will agree