Dont want an argument but...

[Sully 3]

Hi all, hope that your all well,

Right im going to have a moan about permission, time after time ive been sneered at when I ve mentioned that in 20 Years of working dogs Ive only had permission for 2 Years (golf course) before I get hung, I have tried everything, from phone calls to letters, e-mails to knocking on doors, but when you hear "look lad we have had 3 generations of the same family working our land", what chance have I got !!! so what we saying, no permission = hang up my dog lead ? I have it in my blood, my father my fathers father, but alas that was in the day, when a fella walking across a field with a rabbit in his hand didnt mean a visit by the aircops! so you lucky fella's with millions of acre's of permission spare a thought for those who, love the sport as much as anyone but due to circumstances have to tread on the wrong side of the fence, Thanks for reading

ATB Craig.

[watchman 256]

Hi all, hope that your all well,

Right im going to have a moan about permission, time after time ive been sneered at when I ve mentioned that in 20 Years of working dogs Ive only had permission for 2 Years (golf course) before I get hung, I have tried everything, from phone calls to letters, e-mails to knocking on doors, but when you hear "look lad we have had 3 generations of the same family working our land", what chance have I got !!! so what we saying, no permission = hang up my dog lead ? I have it in my blood, my father my fathers father, but alas that was in the day, when a fella walking across a field with a rabbit in his hand didnt mean a visit by the aircops! so you lucky fella's with millions of acre's of permission spare a thought for those who, love the sport as much as anyone but due to circumstances have to tread on the wrong side of the fence, Thanks for reading

ATB Craig.

a lot of people would be liars if they said they never stray over the fence sometimes mate,part of the fun sometimes

and yes permission can be very difficult and possibly take years to build up,i know exactly where your coming from

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

I was born an outlaw and I'll stay one. HAHA!

[lloyd-holmes 15]

you sound like a genuine lad it would take the fun out if if we didnt get "lost" at times

[Sully 3]

Hello lads, it just frustrates me, something was said to me today and I cant seem to shake it, the thing which really gets me, I honestly dont like doing it, after all I tell my children to be have and try and instil into them what's right and wrong, yet there I am, ya know....doing wrong, but there is so many fields just standing there, does it really matter ???

Edited March 19, 2010 by Sully

[watchman 256]

Hello lads, it just frustrates me, something was said to me today and I cant seem to shake it, there is so many fields just standing there, does it really matter ???

what was said mate,

[Wild_and_Irish 11]

Hello lads, it just frustrates me, something was said to me today and I cant seem to shake it, the thing which really gets me, I honestly dont like doing it, after all I tell my children to be have and try and instil into them what's right and wrong, yet there I am, ya know....doing wrong, but there is so many fields just standing there, does it really matter ???

If you're doing no harm, not wrecking about or wiping out game, it's not what I would consider wrong.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

Hi all, hope that your all well,

Right im going to have a moan about permission, time after time ive been sneered at when I ve mentioned that in 20 Years of working dogs Ive only had permission for 2 Years (golf course) before I get hung, I have tried everything, from phone calls to letters, e-mails to knocking on doors, but when you hear "look lad we have had 3 generations of the same family working our land", what chance have I got !!! so what we saying, no permission = hang up my dog lead ? I have it in my blood, my father my fathers father, but alas that was in the day, when a fella walking across a field with a rabbit in his hand didnt mean a visit by the aircops! so you lucky fella's with millions of acre's of permission spare a thought for those who, love the sport as much as anyone but due to circumstances have to tread on the wrong side of the fence, Thanks for reading

ATB Craig.

 

By some ferrets or start beating, all of my permissions has come through ferreting or beating. Just gain trust and respect before mentioning lurchers. Most landowners/keepers are quite happy for you to do some ferreting, its your foot in the door.

[Penda 3,341]

Its my god given wright to poach mate my dad was a poacher my grandad was the 4.10 master nohedgerow was safe and me great uncles were poachers il always poach i always respect the land im on it wouldnt be fun if i didnt poach its the name of the game keep on truckin ha ha ha ha

[stormrider8 59]

Very true mate!! Don"t feel bad about it your not on your own!!

[poacher3161 1,766]

You must be a decent chap to even think about it i have poached all my life mostly on big estates and never once felt guilty but being brought up around miners and steel workers who poached.

[Sully 3]

While in my work clothes I knocked on a farm house door, a very dear friend of mine and my late dad's over a glass of bushmills told me that he knew the farm hand at a relavely local farm, he said that there would be a chance albeit slight of getting a bit of lamping (3 fields) I was telling him my plight over a glass of Bushmills, so I went to see if there was any chance, stomach in mouth (I hate asking, tbh I dont really enjoy approaching the door I feel like Im encroaching)well I was amazed by this mans attitude, I went through a pre rehearsed verse and said I would be prepared to help out with things around the farm, to which he told me "NO" and shut the door in my face, I suppose at least he didnt give me any bs, but the harshness of it took me back, maybe surprised in this world of Anti's and pc rollox that people within the county fraternity couldnt understand just a bit.

[Giro 2,648]

I would look further a Field fella... Good grounds worth the travel...

 

Poaching is a means to a end but you canny beat going about your business not looking over your shoulder knocking lamps off eveytime you see a car light...

 

In todays climate a little permission puts you in a better postion is you do get lost in the dark and find your self in someone eles feild by mistake..

[Sully 3]

Born Hunter, it'snot the done thing round here mate, honestly, If I was a lil closer to to Derbyshire, Chatsworth etc, I would have been asking to beat alomng time ago, re ferrets, Ive asked, I nearly bought a job lot of ferriting gear, but what comes first...the ferret or the permission ??? no permission means I dont need a ferret, so therefore, I'd be doing what I hate other people doing, buying an animal which isnt needed, Im not the most eloquent of people,I hope Im not coming across as a squealing mardy git, bit to say I feel aggrieved is an understatement,

Thanks for your advice tho

[watchman 256]

While in my work clothes I knocked on a farm house door, a very dear friend of mine and my late dad's over a glass of bushmills told me that he knew the farm hand at a relavely local farm, he said that there would be a chance albeit slight of getting a bit of lamping (3 fields) I was telling him my plight over a glass of Bushmills, so I went to see if there was any chance, stomach in mouth (I hate asking, tbh I dont really enjoy approaching the door I feel like Im encroaching)well I was amazed by this mans attitude, I went through a pre rehearsed verse and said I would be prepared to help out with things around the farm, to which he told me "NO" and shut the door in my face, I suppose at least he didnt give me any bs, but the harshness of it took me back, maybe surprised in this world of Anti's and pc rollox that people within the county fraternity couldnt understand just a bit.

id be up there mate,empty the place of game lol,as i said never hurt to stray now and then