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[Guest 2GOOD]

Shot guns

6.14 Section 11(5) of the 1968 Act allows

an individual, without holding a shot gun

certificate, to borrow a shot gun from the

occupier of private premises and use it on

those premises in the occupier's presence.

The presence of the occupier is normally

taken to mean within sight and earshot of the

individual borrowing the firearm. The term

"occupier" is not defined in the Firearms

Acts, nor has a Court clarified its meaning.

However, the Firearms Consultative

Committee in their 5th Annual report

recommended that the provisions of section

27 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

be adopted. This states that '"occupier" in

relation to any land, other than the foreshore,

includes any person having any right of

hunting, shooting, fishing or taking game or

fish'. In the absence of any firm definition

for firearms purposes, it is suggested that

each chief officer of police may wish to make

use of this definition. On some occasions

though, where the status of a certificate

holder acting as an occupier is an issue, the

chief officer may need to consider seeking

the advice of counsel. Section 57(4) provides

that "premises" shall include any land. The

borrower may be of any age but an offence

may be committed under section 22(3) if a

minor under the age of 15 is not supervised

by a person over 21 years of age.

6.15 Similarly, section 11(6) of the 1968 Act

allows an individual, without holding a shot

gun certificate, to use a shot gun at a time

and place approved for shooting at artificial

targets by the chief officer of police for the

area in which that place is situated. As the

approval of such time and place is prescribed

by law and there may be duty of care issues

involved, chief officers may wish not only

to satisfy themselves that such events are

properly conducted and supervised, but also

to establish that there are no public safety

issues involved. When an exemption is

granted, the chief officer should advise

the organiser that they are responsible for

ensuring, so far as is practicable, that

adequate precautions are taken for the safety

of the participants and any spectators. Shoots

at which participants hold certificates do not

require an exemption under section 11(6).

Organisers operating in conjunction with

business, such as corporate entertainment,

will have additional responsibilities under

the Health and Safety at Work Act.

Borrowed rifles on private premises

6.16 Section 16(1) of the 1988 Act enables a

person to borrow a rifle from the occupier

of private premises and to use it on those

premises in the presence of either the

occupier or their servant without holding a

firearm certificate in respect of that rifle. It

should be noted that this gives slightly more

flexibility in the use of a borrowed rifle than

is permissible with the use of a shot gun

as described in paragraph 6.14, in that the

borrowed rifle can also be used in the

presence of the servant of the occupier.

However, the occupier and/or their servant

must hold a firearm certificate in respect of

the firearm being used, and the borrower,

who must be accompanied by the certificate

holder (whether it is the occupier or their

servant), must comply with the conditions

of the certificate. These may include a

safekeeping requirement and, in some cases,

territorial restrictions. Section 57(4) of the

1968 Act defines "premises" as including any

land. The effect of the provision is to allow

a person visiting a private estate to borrow

and use a rifle without a certificate. The

exemption does not extend to persons under

the age of 17 or to other types of firearm.

There is no notification required on the

loan of a firearm under these circumstances.

A borrowed rifle should not be specifically

identified as such on a "keeper's" or

"landowner's" firearm certificate. The term

"in the presence of" is not defined in law

but is generally interpreted as being within

sight and earshot.

6.17 Section 16(2) of the 1988 Act provides

for a person borrowing a rifle in accordance

with section 16(1) of the 1988 Act to

purchase or acquire ammunition for use in

the rifle, and to have it in their possession

during the period for which the rifle is

borrowed, without holding a certificate. The

borrower's possession of the ammunition

must comply with the conditions on the

certificate of the person in whose presence

they are and the amount of ammunition

i love how this topic started off about trouble from posting on here and ends up with a quote on gun laws on the lurcher section!!!!

that is what happens with shooters on a dog hunting forum ,but all this proves is it is not 100%clear and you can be done ,for lending a gun

FFS, It was you 2GOOD, who brought up shooting.

The above I have only quoted is to bloody shut you up (which obviously hasn't worked) as you were wrong in what you "quoted" re the law.

If you (and the rest of the malamute clan) have a problem with certain people on this forum why not just ignore them or sort it out privately instead of pages of winding up on subjects which do not have anything in common with the original post.

why dont you practise what you preach

 

 

Your fecked now FLINT08 AND 2GOOD.Give up

we have decided to ignore him [skellyb ]that is : now where was we ,o yes police ,saying that were are you :ARTIC : Edited March 20, 2010 by 2GOOD

[Guest 2GOOD]

Shot guns

6.14 Section 11(5) of the 1968 Act allows

an individual, without holding a shot gun

certificate, to borrow a shot gun from the

occupier of private premises and use it on

those premises in the occupier's presence.

The presence of the occupier is normally

taken to mean within sight and earshot of the

individual borrowing the firearm. The term

"occupier" is not defined in the Firearms

Acts, nor has a Court clarified its meaning.

However, the Firearms Consultative

Committee in their 5th Annual report

recommended that the provisions of section

27 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

be adopted. This states that '"occupier" in

relation to any land, other than the foreshore,

includes any person having any right of

hunting, shooting, fishing or taking game or

fish'. In the absence of any firm definition

for firearms purposes, it is suggested that

each chief officer of police may wish to make

use of this definition. On some occasions

though, where the status of a certificate

holder acting as an occupier is an issue, the

chief officer may need to consider seeking

the advice of counsel. Section 57(4) provides

that "premises" shall include any land. The

borrower may be of any age but an offence

may be committed under section 22(3) if a

minor under the age of 15 is not supervised

by a person over 21 years of age.

6.15 Similarly, section 11(6) of the 1968 Act

allows an individual, without holding a shot

gun certificate, to use a shot gun at a time

and place approved for shooting at artificial

targets by the chief officer of police for the

area in which that place is situated. As the

approval of such time and place is prescribed

by law and there may be duty of care issues

involved, chief officers may wish not only

to satisfy themselves that such events are

properly conducted and supervised, but also

to establish that there are no public safety

issues involved. When an exemption is

granted, the chief officer should advise

the organiser that they are responsible for

ensuring, so far as is practicable, that

adequate precautions are taken for the safety

of the participants and any spectators. Shoots

at which participants hold certificates do not

require an exemption under section 11(6).

Organisers operating in conjunction with

business, such as corporate entertainment,

will have additional responsibilities under

the Health and Safety at Work Act.

Borrowed rifles on private premises

6.16 Section 16(1) of the 1988 Act enables a

person to borrow a rifle from the occupier

of private premises and to use it on those

premises in the presence of either the

occupier or their servant without holding a

firearm certificate in respect of that rifle. It

should be noted that this gives slightly more

flexibility in the use of a borrowed rifle than

is permissible with the use of a shot gun

as described in paragraph 6.14, in that the

borrowed rifle can also be used in the

presence of the servant of the occupier.

However, the occupier and/or their servant

must hold a firearm certificate in respect of

the firearm being used, and the borrower,

who must be accompanied by the certificate

holder (whether it is the occupier or their

servant), must comply with the conditions

of the certificate. These may include a

safekeeping requirement and, in some cases,

territorial restrictions. Section 57(4) of the

1968 Act defines "premises" as including any

land. The effect of the provision is to allow

a person visiting a private estate to borrow

and use a rifle without a certificate. The

exemption does not extend to persons under

the age of 17 or to other types of firearm.

There is no notification required on the

loan of a firearm under these circumstances.

A borrowed rifle should not be specifically

identified as such on a "keeper's" or

"landowner's" firearm certificate. The term

"in the presence of" is not defined in law

but is generally interpreted as being within

sight and earshot.

6.17 Section 16(2) of the 1988 Act provides

for a person borrowing a rifle in accordance

with section 16(1) of the 1988 Act to

purchase or acquire ammunition for use in

the rifle, and to have it in their possession

during the period for which the rifle is

borrowed, without holding a certificate. The

borrower's possession of the ammunition

must comply with the conditions on the

certificate of the person in whose presence

they are and the amount of ammunition

i love how this topic started off about trouble from posting on here and ends up with a quote on gun laws on the lurcher section!!!!

that is what happens with shooters on a dog hunting forum ,but all this proves is it is not 100%clear and you can be done ,for lending a gun

FFS, It was you 2GOOD, who brought up shooting.

The above I have only quoted is to bloody shut you up (which obviously hasn't worked) as you were wrong in what you "quoted" re the law.

If you (and the rest of the malamute clan) have a problem with certain people on this forum why not just ignore them or sort it out privately instead of pages of winding up on subjects which do not have anything in common with the original post.

why dont you practise what you preach

 

 

Your fecked now FLINT08 AND 2GOOD.Give up

what are you on about, look back through the thread,if your looking for an argument fire away

oops looks like its time to pick on you now catcher1 ,are you a police man by any chance ,come on if you are now is the time to come clean : Edited March 20, 2010 by 2GOOD

[Catcher 1 639]

Shot guns

6.14 Section 11(5) of the 1968 Act allows

an individual, without holding a shot gun

certificate, to borrow a shot gun from the

occupier of private premises and use it on

those premises in the occupier's presence.

The presence of the occupier is normally

taken to mean within sight and earshot of the

individual borrowing the firearm. The term

"occupier" is not defined in the Firearms

Acts, nor has a Court clarified its meaning.

However, the Firearms Consultative

Committee in their 5th Annual report

recommended that the provisions of section

27 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

be adopted. This states that '"occupier" in

relation to any land, other than the foreshore,

includes any person having any right of

hunting, shooting, fishing or taking game or

fish'. In the absence of any firm definition

for firearms purposes, it is suggested that

each chief officer of police may wish to make

use of this definition. On some occasions

though, where the status of a certificate

holder acting as an occupier is an issue, the

chief officer may need to consider seeking

the advice of counsel. Section 57(4) provides

that "premises" shall include any land. The

borrower may be of any age but an offence

may be committed under section 22(3) if a

minor under the age of 15 is not supervised

by a person over 21 years of age.

6.15 Similarly, section 11(6) of the 1968 Act

allows an individual, without holding a shot

gun certificate, to use a shot gun at a time

and place approved for shooting at artificial

targets by the chief officer of police for the

area in which that place is situated. As the

approval of such time and place is prescribed

by law and there may be duty of care issues

involved, chief officers may wish not only

to satisfy themselves that such events are

properly conducted and supervised, but also

to establish that there are no public safety

issues involved. When an exemption is

granted, the chief officer should advise

the organiser that they are responsible for

ensuring, so far as is practicable, that

adequate precautions are taken for the safety

of the participants and any spectators. Shoots

at which participants hold certificates do not

require an exemption under section 11(6).

Organisers operating in conjunction with

business, such as corporate entertainment,

will have additional responsibilities under

the Health and Safety at Work Act.

Borrowed rifles on private premises

6.16 Section 16(1) of the 1988 Act enables a

person to borrow a rifle from the occupier

of private premises and to use it on those

premises in the presence of either the

occupier or their servant without holding a

firearm certificate in respect of that rifle. It

should be noted that this gives slightly more

flexibility in the use of a borrowed rifle than

is permissible with the use of a shot gun

as described in paragraph 6.14, in that the

borrowed rifle can also be used in the

presence of the servant of the occupier.

However, the occupier and/or their servant

must hold a firearm certificate in respect of

the firearm being used, and the borrower,

who must be accompanied by the certificate

holder (whether it is the occupier or their

servant), must comply with the conditions

of the certificate. These may include a

safekeeping requirement and, in some cases,

territorial restrictions. Section 57(4) of the

1968 Act defines "premises" as including any

land. The effect of the provision is to allow

a person visiting a private estate to borrow

and use a rifle without a certificate. The

exemption does not extend to persons under

the age of 17 or to other types of firearm.

There is no notification required on the

loan of a firearm under these circumstances.

A borrowed rifle should not be specifically

identified as such on a "keeper's" or

"landowner's" firearm certificate. The term

"in the presence of" is not defined in law

but is generally interpreted as being within

sight and earshot.

6.17 Section 16(2) of the 1988 Act provides

for a person borrowing a rifle in accordance

with section 16(1) of the 1988 Act to

purchase or acquire ammunition for use in

the rifle, and to have it in their possession

during the period for which the rifle is

borrowed, without holding a certificate. The

borrower's possession of the ammunition

must comply with the conditions on the

certificate of the person in whose presence

they are and the amount of ammunition

i love how this topic started off about trouble from posting on here and ends up with a quote on gun laws on the lurcher section!!!!

that is what happens with shooters on a dog hunting forum ,but all this proves is it is not 100%clear and you can be done ,for lending a gun

FFS, It was you 2GOOD, who brought up shooting.

The above I have only quoted is to bloody shut you up (which obviously hasn't worked) as you were wrong in what you "quoted" re the law.

If you (and the rest of the malamute clan) have a problem with certain people on this forum why not just ignore them or sort it out privately instead of pages of winding up on subjects which do not have anything in common with the original post.

why dont you practise what you preach

 

 

Your fecked now FLINT08 AND 2GOOD.Give up

what are you on about, look back through the thread,if your looking for an argument fire away

 

 

No way bud.Your not drawing me in. I would make you both look like fools atb.Catcher

[poacher3161 1,766]

HELLO HELLO WATS GOING ON HERE THEN. Any body remember dixon of dock green

[scal 1]

what do you want to talk for ,just enjoy the pics get some information about hunting gear lamps and the like .thats what these forums should be about, not lads going on about killing this and that. theres too much information on the net about hunting too much ammunition for anti hunt organisations .thats just my opinion

[Matt 160]

they have got a good point though why are police so openly tolerated on the site?

 

It's not a question of the police being 'tolerated'; the law enforcement agencies can read this forum any time they like without even going to the effort of registering!!

 

Why shouldn't coppers be on here anyway? There shouldn't be anything illegal for them to see should there?

[Guest 2GOOD]

they have got a good point though why are police so openly tolerated on the site?

 

It's not a question of the police being 'tolerated'; the law enforcement agencies can read this forum any time they like without even going to the effort of registering!!

 

Why shouldn't coppers be on here anyway? There shouldn't be anything illegal for them to see should there?

you are correct FIVE O you are correct ,you should all stick together , sorry i mean we

[scal 1]

what do you want to talk for ,just enjoy the pics get some information about hunting gear lamps and the like .thats what these forums should be about, not lads going on about killing this and that. theres too much information on the net about hunting too much ammunition for anti hunt organisations .thats just my opinion

its bad mate when people are to scared to talk,talking is half the enjoyment, say what you think with in reason ,or they win we lose,it will get worse and before long you wont be able to say things like my dog killed a rabbit last night

dont think you should be scared to talk just scared who you talk to ,and the way the laws the fluffy bunny brigade are getting more power i think some people are just making it easier for them

[Guest 2GOOD]

what do you want to talk for ,just enjoy the pics get some information about hunting gear lamps and the like .thats what these forums should be about, not lads going on about killing this and that. theres too much information on the net about hunting too much ammunition for anti hunt organisations .thats just my opinion

its bad mate when people are to scared to talk,talking is half the enjoyment, say what you think with in reason ,or they win we lose,it will get worse and before long you wont be able to say things like my dog killed a rabbit last night

dont think you should be scared to talk just scared who you talk to ,and the way the laws the fluffy bunny brigade are getting more power i think some people are just making it easier for them

funny that ,long before pc,s and internet forums ,we never worried about sutch crap , : then again ,im not worried now :

Edited March 20, 2010 by 2GOOD

[pie 10]

so,..................the conclusion?,nobodys been done,nice one for jeremy kyle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest 2GOOD]

so,..................the conclusion?,nobodys been done,nice one for jeremy kyle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you mean to say HE IS ON HERE AS WELL [if i had known i would have worn my scruffiest clothes and greased my hair with chip fat .and swore a lot ]

Edited March 20, 2010 by 2GOOD

[bullcross1 10]

i dont want any fugertives in my gang lol what a classic, come on artic u gone quiet we need some more entertainment

[Guest 2GOOD]

i dont want any fugertives in my gang lol what a classic, come on artic u gone quiet we need some more entertainment

he is probibly on the beat ,and i dont mean any thing to to with bashing bushes with a stick and shooting Edited March 20, 2010 by 2GOOD

[poacher3161 1,766]

He might have had a busy day in bolton

[Johnny Vegas 1 1]

good read that lol bit silly but enjoyed it, can vouch for a certain person but il keep that to myself.few arseholes commented but there you go we aint all perfect.