FightTheBan 1,147 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 "rabbits no disrespect to those that enjoy that part of this sport ,but i have served my apprentiship on them 30 odd years ago ,FISH in BARRELS that is all they are " The original topic was on whippets and rabbits... I do not ever remember the topic of discussion changing. If you want to talk anything different, then please do. So fill us in, what HAS this world beating dog done before i can safely say you have avoided the subject and maybe it isnt the wonderdog you made it out to be. FTB Link to post
Guest SJM Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I think that a working dogs training starts from the moment it opens its eyes as a tiny pup and carries on throughout its life. They can always be learning something new, the process can go on long into adulthood and even old age. I rear my pups in a very traditional minimalistic way, they are given raw rabbits, hares and venison carcasses from the first opportunity so they know what these animals are, and how good they taste, long before they are allowed to chase them. I see no harm in a dog being sent to retreive a shot rabbit or bird from an early age, or to go ferreting with some nets and learn how to behave around the warrens etc. I started my old collie cross off when he was around 6 months old and he was a great ferreting dog up to the age of about 9/10 when his speed started to go and his reactions got slower. If its a coursing dog I wait a bit, 8 or 9 months is a good age to show them a couple of bunnies. depending on the time of year, around 10 - 12 months is when they will be shown their main quarry, obviously if its december and the pups only 10 month you would wait a couple of months and make things easier on the pup, tip things in its favour. Any quarry which can easily outrun a dog or bite back should be left until the dog has the confidence and maturity to cope with it. You wouldnt expect a little kid to fight in a boxing ring the way an adult can would you? A tough, game young pup might get the first few punches in, but sooner or later his opponent is going to give him a pasting which may well scar him emotionally as well as pysically. Link to post
Guest 2GOOD Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 "rabbits no disrespect to those that enjoy that part of this sport ,but i have served my apprentiship on them 30 odd years ago ,FISH in BARRELS that is all they are " The original topic was on whippets and rabbits... I do not ever remember the topic of discussion changing. If you want to talk anything different, then please do. So fill us in, what HAS this world beating dog done before i can safely say you have avoided the subject and maybe it isnt the wonderdog you made it out to be. FTB give it a rest mate ,its some thing you know sod all about ,and never will .and the dog was catching our chosen quarry at 8 months single handed ,that is what this thread started about ,young dogs starting ,o and it came out every night from the day it could walk with us , Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 give it a rest mate ,its some thing you know sod all about ,and never will .and the dog was catching our chosen quarry at 8 months single handed ,that is what this thread started about ,young dogs starting ,o and it came out every night from the day it could walk with us , Just what i thought, you are a total bullshitter. After 8 months work, the dogs a hero. Brilliant. I think its great you can judge my knowledge of working dogs through a PC, its a real skill and a credit to you. Hopefully the decent folks will read this and make up their own judgement! All the best FTB 2 Link to post
Guest 2GOOD Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 DOTTY you right i do blow my own trumpet ,because i can ,,there is a lot of people on here that have seen what we do ,i dont see any one writing that what i stait is not correct ,now if i was lying ,at least one of them would say so ,would they not . 1 Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 i started my dog at 8 weeks old and i dont have any problems with him as reguards to joints they are all fine, he doesnt yap or whimper when chasing his quary he has and does catch large bags. once a pup has left his mother i think the earlier you get them out lamping the better. Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I start all of our pups doubled up on the lamp at 6 months old and they better by God be beatin them old 18 month old dogs to the critter.........after all by 18 months a dog is damn near wore out. Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 DOTTY you right i do blow my own trumpet ,because i can ,,there is a lot of people on here that have seen what we do ,i dont see any one writing that what i stait is not correct ,now if i was lying ,at least one of them would say so ,would they not . i know you do yer bit, an i know yer dogs are good dogs dont mean they ae the best tho.. an deffo dont mean if ye dont do it your way your dogs will be shite.... but it looks fae where im sittin that you started off all sure fire cocky an offered me oot for the nite an kept chantin on the ftb, but when it come tae the crunch ye widnae answer his questions an refused the offer you had just made.......... looks dodgy fae here you two should get a room Link to post
Flamin'Nora! 50 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) Dan Edited March 15, 2010 by Flamin'Nora! Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 DOTTY you right i do blow my own trumpet ,because i can ,,there is a lot of people on here that have seen what we do ,i dont see any one writing that what i stait is not correct ,now if i was lying ,at least one of them would say so ,would they not . i know you do yer bit, an i know yer dogs are good dogs dont mean they ae the best tho.. an deffo dont mean if ye dont do it your way your dogs will be shite.... but it looks fae where im sittin that you started off all sure fire cocky an offered me oot for the nite an kept chantin on the ftb, but when it come tae the crunch ye widnae answer his questions an refused the offer you had just made.......... looks dodgy fae here you two should get a room only if you hold the camera you have heard about me then Link to post
mnolan 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 i got my new pup on Saturday and hes only 11 weeks..i wont be starting him until he is a least 10 mouths..there cracking little dogs..his farther is strong as an ox Link to post
Malt 379 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 everyguy thats ever watched the credits a gayporn knows catcher the cameraman Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 DOTTY you right i do blow my own trumpet ,because i can ,,there is a lot of people on here that have seen what we do ,i dont see any one writing that what i stait is not correct ,now if i was lying ,at least one of them would say so ,would they not . i know you do yer bit, an i know yer dogs are good dogs dont mean they ae the best tho.. an deffo dont mean if ye dont do it your way your dogs will be shite.... but it looks fae where im sittin that you started off all sure fire cocky an offered me oot for the nite an kept chantin on the ftb, but when it come tae the crunch ye widnae answer his questions an refused the offer you had just made.......... looks dodgy fae here you two should get a room only if you hold the camera you have heard about me then everyguy thats ever watched the credits a gayporn knows catcher the cameraman you just cant keep a secret Link to post
Guest 2GOOD Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 DOTTY you right i do blow my own trumpet ,because i can ,,there is a lot of people on here that have seen what we do ,i dont see any one writing that what i stait is not correct ,now if i was lying ,at least one of them would say so ,would they not . i know you do yer bit, an i know yer dogs are good dogs dont mean they ae the best tho.. an deffo dont mean if ye dont do it your way your dogs will be shite.... but it looks fae where im sittin that you started off all sure fire cocky an offered me oot for the nite an kept chantin on the ftb, but when it come tae the crunch ye widnae answer his questions an refused the offer you had just made.......... looks dodgy fae here the offer is always open to serious takers ,and do you think i could write on here what we do , and take it from me ,i thought a dog flint08 had years ago was a world beater ,so did the people that offerd him things worth a fortune for the dog[but being the person he is he turnd every one down ] but this 16month old dog is of the same standard now ,so it can only get better .and after seeing 36 years worth of other peoples dogs work i stand by my staitment ,he is a world beater at his job ,just remember back in the days when a dog was aloud to be a dog ,[not some pet on a lead like now ]there was a lot of very good dogs about at what they hunted ,well this dog has achived more than the best dogs i have ever seen on the same quarry ,all i can say is come and have a look ,and bring FTB with you so we can beat him or her up Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 DOTTY you right i do blow my own trumpet ,because i can ,,there is a lot of people on here that have seen what we do ,i dont see any one writing that what i stait is not correct ,now if i was lying ,at least one of them would say so ,would they not . i know you do yer bit, an i know yer dogs are good dogs dont mean they ae the best tho.. an deffo dont mean if ye dont do it your way your dogs will be shite.... but it looks fae where im sittin that you started off all sure fire cocky an offered me oot for the nite an kept chantin on the ftb, but when it come tae the crunch ye widnae answer his questions an refused the offer you had just made.......... looks dodgy fae here the offer is always open to serious takers ,and do you think i could write on here what we do , and take it from me ,i thought a dog flint08 had years ago was a world beater ,so did the people that offerd him things worth a fortune for the dog[but being the person he is he turnd every one down ] but this 16month old dog is of the same standard now ,so it can only get better .and after seeing 36 years worth of other peoples dogs work i stand by my staitment ,he is a world beater at his job ,just remember back in the days when a dog was aloud to be a dog ,[not some pet on a lead like now ]there was a lot of very good dogs about at what they hunted ,well this dog has achived more than the best dogs i have ever seen on the same quarry ,all i can say is come and have a look ,and bring FTB with you so we can beat him or her up Link to post
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