Any .20 shooters?

[LordGamebore 0]

I'm now thinking selling my .177 PCP and getting a .20. I'm not happy with the stopping power of the .177, with perfectly head shot rabbits kicking and jumping around for over a minute. I've only had a few outings with the .177, but now use only .22 for hunting as I find it give more humane kills. Does anyone have any experience with the .20? I read an article in Sporting Rifle and while back and the author really recomended it.

 

Cheers.............

[andyfr1968 772]

Hi, mate.

 

Yup, I've had a .20 barrel on my HW90 for the past couple of years and I really like it. It kills things just as well as .177 and .22.

 

Practice with what you've got and are happy with. Don't get too hung up on caliber, they'll all do the biz if you do your bit.

 

Cheers.

[pav 481]

iv goy a mk1 rapid in .20 and luv it had it 6 year

[wrowmon 1]

i did use a .20 pcp a black fox??.found it to be a great pellet accupells are poo hot in this caliber..i actually found that a .20 added 10yrds to my kill range as it would go clean thru bunnies at my normal springer range...25yd to 35 yds..but woud stop them dead at 45 yds with accupel.

[farmboy99 1]

its meant to be the ultimate hunting cal from what ive heard. i had one for a very short time. ive got 6 tins of bisley .20 left if anyone want to buy em?

[Tyla 3,179]

I've shot a .20 falcon since 1999 and have shots hundreds of head of game with it. I've bought, and since sold, several more modern multishot pcp's but always tended to find excuses for taking the old favourite. I prefer it, shoots flat and hits hard using .20 FTT pellets. I now use the calibre solely, even bought another .20 falcon cabine for the wife (although, to be fair, i tend to use it more than her for out the car or ferals when the full length on is too big!)

[LordGamebore 0]

Hi, mate.

 

Yup, I've had a .20 barrel on my HW90 for the past couple of years and I really like it. It kills things just as well as .177 and .22.

 

Practice with what you've got and are happy with. Don't get too hung up on caliber, they'll all do the biz if you do your bit.

 

Cheers.

 

Where could I buy a .20 barrel for HW95?

 

Thanks

[andyfr1968 772]

Hi, mate.

 

Yup, I've had a .20 barrel on my HW90 for the past couple of years and I really like it. It kills things just as well as .177 and .22.

 

Practice with what you've got and are happy with. Don't get too hung up on caliber, they'll all do the biz if you do your bit.

 

Cheers.

 

Where could I buy a .20 barrel for HW95?

 

Thanks

 

I got mine through my local gun shop who got it from Hull Cartridge Co. who are the main importer. Cost about £ and took bloody months to arrive. Glad I did it though .20's well worth a go. Loads of ammo to choose from on-line.

 

Cheers.

[LordGamebore 0]

Hi, mate.

 

Yup, I've had a .20 barrel on my HW90 for the past couple of years and I really like it. It kills things just as well as .177 and .22.

 

Practice with what you've got and are happy with. Don't get too hung up on caliber, they'll all do the biz if you do your bit.

 

Cheers.

 

Where could I buy a .20 barrel for HW95?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

I got mine through my local gun shop who got it from Hull Cartridge Co. who are the main importer. Cost about £ and took bloody months to arrive. Glad I did it though .20's well worth a go. Loads of ammo to choose from on-line.

 

Cheers.

 

I'll have to have a look then! Is it true that the trajectory is completely flat from 0-25 yards?

[andyfr1968 772]

Hi, mate.

 

Yup, I've had a .20 barrel on my HW90 for the past couple of years and I really like it. It kills things just as well as .177 and .22.

 

Practice with what you've got and are happy with. Don't get too hung up on caliber, they'll all do the biz if you do your bit.

 

Cheers.

 

Where could I buy a .20 barrel for HW95?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

I got mine through my local gun shop who got it from Hull Cartridge Co. who are the main importer. Cost about £ and took bloody months to arrive. Glad I did it though .20's well worth a go. Loads of ammo to choose from on-line.

 

Cheers.

 

I'll have to have a look then! Is it true that the trajectory is completely flat from 0-25 yards?

 

No, mate, not really. .20 shoots a lot closer to .22 than .177 in practice as the pellets generaly weigh roughly the same, 12-15ish grains. So the velocity's much closer to .22.

 

They tend to hold their energy a bit better at range 'cos as the weight's so similar (I must stress I'm generalising here...) and they have a smaller frontal area so they have less drag through the air.

 

It's splitting hairs though....

 

Edit to say...... For what it's worth, the three best pellets I've found for killing small game in a sub 12ft-lb airgun dureing the last 30 years I've been shooting the bloody things are.... .177 Baracudas, .20 Dynamic PCP5's, and .22 Loguns. No particular order, just they're the ones I've found do the biz best when I do my bit.

Edited March 16, 2010 by andyfr1968

[wrowmon 1]

No, mate, not really. .20 shoots a lot closer to .22 than .177 in practice as the pellets generaly weigh roughly the same, 12-15ish grains. So the velocity's much closer to .22.

 

They tend to hold their energy a bit better at range 'cos as the weight's so similar (I must stress I'm generalising here...) and they have a smaller frontal area so they have less drag through the air.

 

It's splitting hairs though....

 

Edit to say...... For what it's worth, the three best pellets I've found for killing small game in a sub 12ft-lb airgun dureing the last 30 years I've been shooting the bloody things are.... .177 Baracudas, .20 Dynamic PCP5's, and .22 Loguns. No particular order, just they're the ones I've found do the biz best when I do my bit.

sorry can't agree with the .20 velocity much closer to .22..the pcp i had i could swap the barrels had a .177/.20/.22/.25..as the gun was set up with .20 and ran at 11.9 ft/lbs in .22 it ran at 10.8 ft/lb on accupells but in .177 it ran at 11.2 ft/lb .25 was very low unless adjusted.barrels were hw barrels it's a lot like the new ruger 204 center fire cartridge near same weight as a 223 but travels quicker (in some loads)..remember its a smaller diameter pellet so will travel quicker much quicker..

[andyfr1968 772]

Ok, like I said, I was being very general.

 

EG. Accupels are the same weight in both .20 and .22, 14.3 grains. At 5mm they present 10% less frontal are than 5.5mm, so the air hits the front of the pellet so much less, so slows it down a little less.

 

I'm not claiming to be a ballistics expert and I'm sure someone on here can supply the maths. It all confuses me, gas speeds, friction co's., acceleration vs mass etc.... Diamiter effects velocity in an airgun far less than mass.

 

Cheers.

[wrowmon 1]

andy not saying your wrong just saying i had the chance to test out many years ago and there was a marked difference..and as pellets and barrels were both made by the same companies pellets accupells barrels hw i thouhgt it was a good test...barrels were the same lenght etc..another spanner in the works .. .20 was more consistant than the .22 and gave more shots per charge....have the notes somewhere ...will try to dig them out...

[wrowmon 1]

if diameter does not effect velocity as much as mass why will a .20 travel flater than a .22 considering that the pellets are nearly the same weight..accupels..if they are the same mass but one travels quicker then it's muzzel velocity would be greater would it not?

[andyfr1968 772]

It really is splitting hairs with the power we've got to play with. If they leave the gun at the same speed (assuming the same weight) then 'cos the .20 will slow down slightly more slowly than the .22, it'll have a very slightly slower drop as the range goes up.

 

The tests you've done are from the same gun but as you've said, not the same energy, so you're not really compairing like for like. As I said, I was generalising....