KC LAKIES DONT WORK TRUE OR FALSE

[Cleanspade 3,322]

there are some good working dogs bred from kc stock. ive seen a little fox terrier bitch working to ground. ive owned a parson that worked ten seasons with me. ive seen kc borders working well. the problem being they are generally the exeption rather than the rule. so as producers they are none starters. one of the hardest terriers i saw was a little pet bred russell. a really ugly little dog. but what a worker. ended up to hard . this dog worked with the gun and retrieved feather live and unharmed. same thing aplies.allmost imposible to produce from. worker to worker for me or i would try a pup from good solid lines and be confident i would make something out of it. ive got a plummer that works to ground. so anything is possible

[wee.gunga 4]

in my oppinion the biggest problem with KC dogs is, if y find a good worker which is not from line of tested workers, you probably wont produce a workers. i saw couple of fox terriers, great results from shows, solid workers but they never produce workers. i hope your lakies ll do the grade than you can breed them and after another 3-4 years y ll see if they can produce. another problem here in continent is that 99 percent of KC dogs are too big for earth work.

[wee.gunga 4]

my bitch is 11 inches to the shoulder my dog is 14 inches .

[wee.gunga 4]

listen boys my uncle was a very high regarded man in the terrier world big allan shearer stays in drongan ayrshire a lot of you terrier men might no him .anyway he put the best to the best and hoped for the best .he did say himself not all his dogs made the grade if he got 1 he was lucky i spoke to him about the kc lakies he said get off the best possible lines available then if the dogs has heart its half the battle .he said hes seen some cracking kc lakies in his time good workers aswell.but personaly he would only use 1 if it had good heart and good worker to tidy his strains .he did say hes seen great dogs produce shit pups and he means shit .and hes seen rubish ta rubish produce great pups .but can anyone tell me the breeding of a working lakie ???????? still waiting .

[Wild_and_Irish 11]

can anyone tell me the breeding of a working lakie ???????? still waiting .

The same line of lakies that were and continue to be bred worker to worker before they were recognised as a breed by the kc and people started breeding them for show aswell, same with every breed apart from toy dogs. Fairplay if yours work but even my pet golden retriever has killed a good number of rats, squirrels and cats

[dev 226]

listen boys my uncle was a very high regarded man in the terrier world big allan shearer stays in drongan ayrshire a lot of you terrier men might no him .anyway he put the best to the best and hoped for the best .he did say himself not all his dogs made the grade if he got 1 he was lucky i spoke to him about the kc lakies he said get off the best possible lines available then if the dogs has heart its half the battle .he said hes seen some cracking kc lakies in his time good workers aswell.but personaly he would only use 1 if it had good heart and good worker to tidy his strains .he did say hes seen great dogs produce shit pups and he means shit .and hes seen rubish ta rubish produce great pups .but can anyone tell me the breeding of a working lakie ???????? still waiting .

 

if he uses K.C lakeland to "tidy his strain" then he sounds like he is focused on winning rosetes at terriers shows rather than producing prper digging dogs.

 

and he said he seen rubbish produce great dogs?? why was the rubbish bred from and not PTS like it should have been?

 

im not trying to have a go but you have come on boasting and talking out of your arse.

[MUTS NUTS 1]

listen boys my uncle was a very high regarded man in the terrier world big allan shearer stays in drongan ayrshire a lot of you terrier men might no him .anyway he put the best to the best and hoped for the best .he did say himself not all his dogs made the grade if he got 1 he was lucky i spoke to him about the kc lakies he said get off the best possible lines available then if the dogs has heart its half the battle .he said hes seen some cracking kc lakies in his time good workers aswell.but personaly he would only use 1 if it had good heart and good worker to tidy his strains .he did say hes seen great dogs produce shit pups and he means shit .and hes seen rubish ta rubish produce great pups .but can anyone tell me the breeding of a working lakie ???????? still waiting .

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Working lakies started as more of a type than a breed just working men breeding working dog to suit the work thay had to do .It wasnt so much a bit of this and a bit of that and thay didnt come about over night.How do you think thay were bread.And why would a terier man with good dogs want to add kennel club blood to his strain ????????.

[MUTS NUTS 1]

HI GUYS AM SERIOUS HERE IVE HAD LURCHERS FOR YEARS STOPED THEM AND GOT IN TO TERRIERS I BOUGHT 2 KC DOGS OUT OF THE BEST BREEDING AVAILABLE MY MATE GAVE ME A CHALLENGE HE SAID A KC DOG WONT GO DOWN A HOLE A SAID ITS THE WAY YOU BRING THEM UP .ANYWAY IVE TOOK IT EASY WITH THEM MY DOG LAKIE IS A GREAT MARKER ITS LIKE A BEAGLEITS SERIOUS .ITS HAD A RAG AT A FOX ECT OTHER DAY I TOOK HIM OUT FIRST HOLE STRAIGHT IN BANG IN TO A FOX AL TELL YOUSE SOMETHING HES A HARD BIT OF STUFF .THE BITCH I DIDNT HURRY ASWELL BITCH IS 16 MONTHS KC ASWELL STRAIGHT IN NO PROBS .SO IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU KC DOGS DO WORK AS I SAID .ALL IN THE UP BRINGING BOYS I ASSURE YOU. WOULD LIKE YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS GUYS 1 GUY SAID THERE NOT AS HARD AS THE WORKERS ???? TRUST ME THERE HARDY BUGGERS THEY WOULD FIGHT TO THE DEATH 100%.SO WHARE THEY GET THIS FROM A DONT NO .

why did you get kennel club dogs mate could you not find a pup out of workers or are you lookin to breed them,And how do you no the dogs a great marker if this is the first youve had it out.alot of dogs start hard its not all about being hard you cant be 100% about anything at that age .How long did it take you to dig to the dog .How many digs has your bitch had.and how did you bring them up if thats the key mate.

????????still waiting mate

[mbrydenuk 14]

my bitch is 11 inches to the shoulder my dog is 14 inches .

you sure the bitch isnt a yorki.

[kirstysdad 827]

listen boys my uncle was a very high regarded man in the terrier world big allan shearer stays in drongan ayrshire a lot of you terrier men might no him .anyway he put the best to the best and hoped for the best .he did say himself not all his dogs made the grade if he got 1 he was lucky i spoke to him about the kc lakies he said get off the best possible lines available then if the dogs has heart its half the battle .he said hes seen some cracking kc lakies in his time good workers aswell.but personaly he would only use 1 if it had good heart and good worker to tidy his strains .he did say hes seen great dogs produce shit pups and he means shit .and hes seen rubish ta rubish produce great pups .but can anyone tell me the breeding of a working lakie ???????? still waiting .

 

if he uses K.C lakeland to "tidy his strain" then he sounds like he is focused on winning rosetes at terriers shows rather than producing prper digging dogs.

 

and he said he seen rubbish produce great dogs?? why was the rubbish bred from and not PTS like it should have been?

 

im not trying to have a go but you have come on boasting and talking out of your arse.

seen a mate bring over some kc stuff from n ireland few years back ok for a few digs but did not last the season also lad over here had 2 kc that he bumed up done ok on the day but that was there last real work. worker to worker every time cuts down the odds of getting shite kc reg probably not seen a hole in there bloodline for 50 years so getting anything to do job right might be hrd work

[kirstysdad 827]

listen boys my uncle was a very high regarded man in the terrier world big allan shearer stays in drongan ayrshire a lot of you terrier men might no him .anyway he put the best to the best and hoped for the best .he did say himself not all his dogs made the grade if he got 1 he was lucky i spoke to him about the kc lakies he said get off the best possible lines available then if the dogs has heart its half the battle .he said hes seen some cracking kc lakies in his time good workers aswell.but personaly he would only use 1 if it had good heart and good worker to tidy his strains .he did say hes seen great dogs produce shit pups and he means shit .and hes seen rubish ta rubish produce great pups .but can anyone tell me the breeding of a working lakie ???????? still waiting .

 

if he uses K.C lakeland to "tidy his strain" then he sounds like he is focused on winning rosetes at terriers shows rather than producing prper digging dogs.

 

and he said he seen rubbish produce great dogs?? why was the rubbish bred from and not PTS like it should have been?

 

im not trying to have a go but you have come on boasting and talking out of your arse.

seen a mate bring over some kc stuff from n ireland few years back ok for a few digs but did not last the season also lad over here had 2 kc that he bumed up done ok on the day but that was there last real work. worker to worker every time cuts down the odds of getting shite kc reg probably not seen a hole in there bloodline for 50 years so getting anything to do job right might be hrd work

seen a mate and I

worked them for a season myself as for the other 2 they did not make a season good luck wih them hope they work out for you

[wee.gunga 4]

to be honest i didnt buy the dogs to work i was planning on breeding them as they were off the best of stuff.but a friend said kc lakies are shit they wont go down a hole .aye said why he replied show ponies .i laughed and said any dog thats trained correctly will go down a hole anyway there was a little debate.so my mission is to prove the bugger wrong .i will not be defeated trust me anyway its just a bit of fun between us but i will prove him wrong trust me anyway good luck guys with all your dogs and hope all your dogs work out .thanks for the response.remember its nice to be important but its more important to be nice.

[twobobdog1 76]

my mate saw this! i saw that! he told me there no good!....for fcuk sake the man is trying a few KC dogs best of luck to him....i bet the half of ye sit on yer fat holes all day forum hopping picking yer noses waiting for someone to cut someone elses post' and then your in for the kill........best of luck with your lakies mate and dont mind them arse pickers sitthing in front of there compurters all day..... :wankerzo4:

you are spot on a.t.b

[FightTheBan 1,147]

to be honest i didnt buy the dogs to work i was planning on breeding them as they were off the best of stuff.but a friend said kc lakies are shit they wont go down a hole .aye said why he replied show ponies .i laughed and said any dog thats trained correctly will go down a hole anyway there was a little debate.so my mission is to prove the bugger wrong .i will not be defeated trust me anyway its just a bit of fun between us but i will prove him wrong trust me anyway good luck guys with all your dogs and hope all your dogs work out .thanks for the response.remember its nice to be important but its more important to be nice.

 

 

Not being funny pal but what you have is probably 1 in 1000, and i still wouldnt breed off them because the pups almost certainly wont work. KC terriers have been bred for looks for too long and have lost the ability to do proper earthwork in all but a few cases.

And your second comment any dog thats trained right will go down a hole...is true, but its what the dog meets down the hole that splits the difference. Any numpty can run an empty earth, i doubt it if your dogs will stick it in the long run, but i really hope they do. And well done for trying and giving it a go

FTB

[The Breeder 156]

to be honest i didnt buy the dogs to work i was planning on breeding them as they were off the best of stuff.but a friend said kc lakies are shit they wont go down a hole .aye said why he replied show ponies .i laughed and said any dog thats trained correctly will go down a hole anyway there was a little debate.so my mission is to prove the bugger wrong .i will not be defeated trust me anyway its just a bit of fun between us but i will prove him wrong trust me anyway good luck guys with all your dogs and hope all your dogs work out .thanks for the response.remember its nice to be important but its more important to be nice.

 

 

Not being funny pal but what you have is probably 1 in 1000, and i still wouldnt breed off them because the pups almost certainly wont work. KC terriers have been bred for looks for too long and have lost the ability to do proper earthwork in all but a few cases.

And your second comment any dog thats trained right will go down a hole...is true, but its what the dog meets down the hole that splits the difference. Any numpty can run an empty earth, i doubt it if your dogs will stick it in the long run, but i really hope they do. And well done for trying and giving it a go

FTB

Just because they are KC Register'd, don't mean they are not going to work. I work and breed KC Register'd Border Terriers, and they produce good working stock. The dog I have just used is 9 years old and still working, and very well at that. My own bitch is 5 years old and still grafting, and now her off-spring are doing well. A good friend of mine used to work and breed KC Register'd Lakies, and they to produced good workers, so much so, a lot of well known Terrier men, years ago, put them into their own lines, because of their raw courage. I think you are doing a good thing, and good luck with your breeding