Ethics on Hunting with an Air Rifle.

[Phantom 631]

They are way too big for me and shroom to lift were only little guy's ya know

 

Phantom

[Sweeney-Todd 208]

Now Now Boys,

 

Please play nice,

Begsy, shroom was just trying to inject a lil humor into the thread

 

Aaron I refere you to read the T&C's of using the board, which clearly state, dont extract the urine out of peoples spelling

 

Phantom

 

 

Hi Tony.

 

I dont reckon Mushrooms comments are at all funny or humourous....sorry

Like most on here I enjoy a good laugh and a wind up........ harmless fun in the right context.

 

But to make comments like he has made, supposedly to inject humour is bang out of order, I even sent him a PM asking him to edit, which he chose to ignore, and then added more.

 

Maybe Im getting old, but comments like that hold NO humour for me, each to their own I suppose.

 

ATB>

 

 

 

Bill.

[mushroom 13,268]

'kinel you numties can you not see sarcasm when it smacks you in the nose?????? Cheers phantom for realising this To me it's friggin obvious that ALL hunters not just airgun hunters should hunt ethically. Anybody who tackles the wrong prey with the wrong method IE cattle with an airifle for example is a fool and truley doesn't give a shit about the quarry never mind the hunt or kill.

 

So to all the tossers who cannot identify sarcasm........ love ya

[mushroom 13,268]

Now Now Boys,

 

Please play nice,

Begsy, shroom was just trying to inject a lil humor into the thread

 

Aaron I refere you to read the T&C's of using the board, which clearly state, dont extract the urine out of peoples spelling

 

Phantom

 

 

Hi Tony.

 

I dont reckon Mushrooms comments are at all funny or humourous....sorry

Like most on here I enjoy a good laugh and a wind up........ harmless fun in the right context.

 

But to make comments like he has made, supposedly to inject humour is bang out of order, I even sent him a PM asking him to edit, which he chose to ignore, and then added more.

 

Maybe Im getting old, but comments like that hold NO humour for me, each to their own I suppose.

 

ATB>

 

 

 

Bill.

 

Now I don't normaly get involved in this kind of bollocks but are you on a committee coz you seem to be that way out. You want me to change it, report it..... Must say it was a very pleasant and meaningful pm that you sent me though thankyou :kiss:

[stealthy1 3,964]

For what my veiws are worth. To me its not an issue of whether to shoot an animal with an airgun, or any gun for that matter, the airgun has nothing to do with the shot it or not issue, airguns are well suited to shooting smaller quarry, bigger more powerfull guns for bigger quarry. Folk with the slightest doubt about pulling the trigger on any living thing should stick to targets and plinking, airguns are well suited to put down quarry the were disigned for. I have no ethical problems with shooting or trapping any animal thats not suited to its place of residence, and for those that do, there's always jigsaw puzzles

[tdesnos 6]

late in here, and havent read all the posts, but it seems to be a moral question that people are asking of themselve's, sort of like why are we here, isthere a god etc..

Yeah, i think it is a moral question, but it's not asking whether there is a god

 

basicaly i've found (a long time ago) some people can, some can't and some definatly shouldnt be aloud.

I agree, trying to seperate between those who can and those who shouldn't is tricky. But it's not really our place to say who should and shouldn't. I was just trying to clarify it in my own mind.

 

if some finds themself incapable of it they shouldnt be made, it would probably affect them in the mind quite badly.

if some one's getting off on the 'kill' then maybe there's further complications to be concidered, like how long before the buzz of killing little thing's develope.. (or if it would ever get to that stage). and i mean the kill.. not the hunt.(there is a diference int there).

I don't think people would force themselves into shooting an animal if they didn't want to? I think getting off on the kill and getting off on the hunt are honestly difficult to seperate and different in each individual. For me, i don't believe i enjoy 'killing' conceptually, but i do enjoy the feeling of 'got it' - i think that has something to do with the difference?

 

and finaly some people take it as it is.. it's food, pest controll or concervation, the kill part isnt at question, and they certainly dont feel bad about not asimilating thumper and bambi and the dream lands when gathering food.

I agree

at the end of the day plants respond to stimuli... just because we havent found bio mass with a brain tag attached... we dont actualy know do we on that front, therefore is there a guilt factor to eating plants, they were alive too. etc etc.

Whether plants are a sentient species, who knows i guess? Most religions, cultures, philosophies, scientists don't think so - that good enough for me

in terms of pest control, theyd eat you np's...it's how they live, if they over populate then sooner or later it's a case of not just cost (and those issues) but an actual die situation where all our food is eaten.

the natural 'progresion' theory seems to omit the human from the chain, or pritty much sais ahhh well, humans over populate and kill as many other species as posable and hay ho..it's progresion.

I don't really know anything about this

 

in enviromental terms all life co exsisted for an awful long time on a 'natural selection' theme, untill man made machines and mass distruction, so surely man has the obligation to maintain as many species as posable (particularly as he is the only 'inteligent' form that can wipe them out un naturaly as they say).

shooting one now againt killing 100's of thousands later?... who's the cruel one?

I agree, we do have a responsibility to be, er... responsible

 

in a word the 'responcability' to protect an eco system, when one species goes another flurush's upsetting the natural scheme of things..rigt down to deseises micro organisms and the plankton that supply something like 70 percent or more oxygen that we need to breeth. kill the planktonas food they die out...along with a multitude of other species...etc etc etc.

Again, i don't really know anything about this

 

so.........it's an ethic about yourself that you ask.............................................................(not one you can impose on another with a closed mind about what you want).

 

Good post mate

[jasper65 6]

Now I don't normaly get involved in this kind of bollocks but are you on a committee coz you seem to be that way out. You want me to change it, report it..... Must say it was a very pleasant and meaningful pm that you sent me though thankyou

 

You wind up Merchant ......

 

Jasp

[andyfr1968 772]

excellent post!

this may sound like an obvious question...but did you edit bad spelling into it?

 

Have a look at most of your early posts on here, Aaron.....

 

Come on, you've at last worked out how to use a spell checker.

 

Ghillie's been doing this for just a little bit longer than you, so don't disrespect him 'cos of that.

[davyt63 1,845]

you can shoot cows ,with air rifles

[Malt 379]

Great Post Tris ....

 

Far to many Nobheads take on shots when they can't Gurantee a clean kill or at least stop the quarry in its track until dispatched, seen and read it all before with lads just aiming at the quarry and squeezing the trigger without any thought of placing a shot......

 

All respect to our Quarry weather it be Vermin or not! from a sporting point of view where would be without it? Punching holes in paper and Tins I suspect ....

 

Jasper

 

Well said Jasps.

 

 

 

PS. ...with faggoty little .177 pellets no doubt..

[Malt 379]

FFS lads, replied to Jaspers post then read the rest of the thread.

 

Part of what makes this section (for me anyway) is the banter and craic as much as the decent, knowledgeable posts. Even though I'm more of an ex airgunner these days, I've been enjoying this section since I joined up in 2007, please don't try to turn it into a totally serious, joyless experience where people can't differentiate between a joke and a stupid post. (Airgun BBS mk 2)

Edited March 15, 2010 by maltenby

[Phantom 631]

please don't try to turn it into a totally serious, joyless experience where people can't differentiate between a joke and a stupid post. (Airgun BBS mk 2)

 

MEEEEEOOOOOOWWWWWW

 

:11:

 

 

Love it

 

Phantom

[Malt 379]

please don't try to turn it into a totally serious, joyless experience where people can't differentiate between a joke and a stupid post. (Airgun BBS mk 2)

 

MEEEEEOOOOOOWWWWWW

 

:11:

 

 

Love it

 

Phantom

Piss off Tony you tart! :laugh:

[Buster321c 1,010]

FFS lads, replied to Jaspers post then read the rest of the thread.

 

Part of what makes this section (for me anyway) is the banter and craic as much as the decent, knowledgeable posts. Even though I'm more of an ex airgunner these days, I've been enjoying this section since I joined up in 2007, please don't try to turn it into a totally serious, joyless experience where people can't differentiate between a joke and a stupid post. (Airgun BBS mk 2)

 

 

 

Calm down dear :kiss:

[Malt 379]

FFS lads, replied to Jaspers post then read the rest of the thread.

 

Part of what makes this section (for me anyway) is the banter and craic as much as the decent, knowledgeable posts. Even though I'm more of an ex airgunner these days, I've been enjoying this section since I joined up in 2007, please don't try to turn it into a totally serious, joyless experience where people can't differentiate between a joke and a stupid post. (Airgun BBS mk 2)

 

 

 

Calm down dear :kiss:

 

 

Sorry darling, didn't mean to be an old drama queen!