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touch wood have never had a yapper yet, seen a few with terrier blood in them. But i find if you start them too early or run them doulbed up this will increse them to yap.

each to their own bud, but if you start a dog early then the possibility is they wont catch their choosen quarry

mate your right people dont realise yapping is a part of the hunting instincts in dogs and wolves and its used as you say to notify the pack were they are to help with the catch i've noticed the more

not sight hounds tho usaly are quite

yeah but not many people run pure sighthounds compared to lurchers and yes sighthounds have a rep for being quite but once you start sticking collie or terrier based breeds to them you get a different outcome, most have alot of other breeds in , lot of the boar dogs in australia. have alot of sighhound in them and they still yap and bay them till the rest of the crew catch up. then they mount there attack. im not saying that everydog yapping is trying to communicate as some do it for other reasons but most yappers are communicating to others or there human owner. hence why i was saying its in there insticts to do it in some breeds and more follow there instinct then others

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i had a black and tan smooth coated bitch she was saluki/greyhound with a dash of whippet way back down the line she was to this day the best rabbit and hare dog i ever owned also she was the only one of these hybreds i ever owned as my intrests lie in other things from rabbits hares etc she was well known localy and ran rabbit and hare day and night and never a murmer from the bitch when she was just over 4 years of age she was hit by a motorcross biker while we were walking the lanes in sherwood forest she was taking to the vets and after a few hefty vet bills and nearly a year out of action i began getting her ready for the season coming road walking etc,everything was fine we had a few nights on the lamp no problem,then while walking some fields in the day (pre ban),a hare got up she was slipped and began coursing the hare and after a min or so she began yapping her head of could not come on terms with the hare,much to my horror she just could not close a 10 yard gap on it,i held her back thought she may still not be right from her injury and tried her again at the end of the season and the same thing again she still caught rabbits well on the lamp and never made a sound, but hares she yapped like mad at and never really got it back with them, i belive it was caused by her accident and maybe slowing down with premature age due to the accident factor, so i over looked her yapping and never ran her much on them like i did before the accident she lived to be 13 and was put to sleep last year i still think i was cheated out of a good 2 to 3 years of yap free service out of her by some fecking idiot on a motorbike R.I.P Lucy

regards hedz

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saw a dog quite as amouse and when run with quicker dogs he started yapping to tell them to slow down as he was getting lost on the chase,its away for dogs to communacate to yap and bark ,cant beat adog hot on ahare barking like mad and two of his siblings come in take over and down the nasty hare ,part of the pack instinct lol

mate you always get people twisting what you say. not stating what your implying but its a proven fact researched by 100's of top animal people that dogs do have ways of communicating to each other on basic form. i.g giving scent of being in season this is telling other dogs shes ready. shackles on back tells the other dog they mean business. even there tails shows how the dog is feeling and this is another method of communication between dogs. theres been much research into wild animals on hunts showing they do communicate on the hunt in simple terms i.e yapping wolves do it. wild dogs do it so why is it so hard for a hunting dog that you've unleashed there hunting instincts not do it. im not saying talking in the same way we do but they do have basic ways of communicating. look how wolves co-ordinate there attacks and even killer whales have adopted the same methods or lions or basicly nearly every predator thats pact oreintated do communicate in basic terms. this is what yapping is basic communication. any pack hunts man should tell you as even the fox hounds do it. and look at the baying earth or boar dogs what they barking for. just for a giggle?

 

:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash: Look, I ain't saying that dogs dont communicate to each other, f**k, they communicate to us so why not to each other? How often you been out in the field, spot something like a deer in the corner of the beam, dog ain't on the lead, you flick the lamp away so the dog doesn't see it..... for a second your staring at the dog and he's staring at you.... c'mere boy and I'll put you on the lead.... all the while praying he ain't seen it.... of course he ain't seen it or he'd be off..... but he f*****g knows... he reads your mind, smells your excitment, senses the situation.... quick as a flash the c**ts off!!! Now call it what you will, animal instincts, senses, communication blah de blah. We communicate with them, they communicate with us. Now, I know dogs communicate with one another and I've seen old dogs use inexperianced young dogs to "hunt" out the threshes or trees while the old dog patrols 20 yards out in the open ground waiting for something to break cover. They aren't working as a team I can assure you. The old head is using his years of experience and letting the young dog hunt for him knowing you cant catch them in there. The young dog not knowing any better is following his nose, the scents, they're strong in there, he's hunting the prey in his head, unaware he's helping the old codger. Now, to the untrained eye, you'd think they were working as a team, helping one another. Far from it, they're working the way they know how. The young dog might get lucky and be up the arse of something when it breaks cover(most of the time he doesn't even know its happened) there ain't a dog on the plant is going to say, right oh old bean, you have it!!! You'll get dogs that wont over take another dog when doubled up. I reckon its down to peer pressure and a lack of confidence and its usually a timid dog but it doesn't want to be like that. Its just being dominated with the other dog and has nothing to do with aiding each other in hunting. Just my tuppence worth. :tongue2:

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You'll get dogs that wont over take another dog when doubled up. I reckon its down to peer pressure and a lack of confidence and its usually a timid dog but it doesn't want to be like that. Its just being dominated with the other dog and has nothing to do with aiding each other in hunting. Just my tuppence worth. :tongue2:

 

very true that seen it before and run single the other dog usually comes good without the dominant dog there to intimdate it. a good reason to run lurchers single handed so you see what you have :thumbs:

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In all the years i have had lurchers[37] i have only had the missfortune to have one out and out yapper the dog was out of a well known norfolk lurcher type to a 3quarter grey saluki.Wat other hybreds have people come across that were yappers.

I WOULD IMAGINE MOST BREEDS ARE CAPABLE OF YAPPING TO A LESSER OR GREATER DEGREE,I HAVE SEEN GOOD YOUNG DOGS OVERMATCHED/OVER RUN A NUMBER OF TIMES SOME HAVE STARTED TO YAP,WORSE THAN THAT SOME HAVE CALLED IT A DAY AND JACKED, JUST SO DISHEARTENED AT NOT BEING ABLE TO COME TO TERMS WITH THEIR QUARRY.IN MY OPINION ENTERING TO CERTAIN TYPES OF QUARRY BEFORE THE DOG IS READY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO CREATING A YAPPING DOG..ON A DIFFERENT NOTE HOW MANY OLDER SEASONED DOGS START TO YAP ??...OR DO THEY GIVE NO WARNING AND JUST JACK IN AS THEY KNOW THEY ARE OVERMATCHED............IF EVERYONE WORKED THEIR DOGS ON LAND THEY HAVE PERMISSION WOULD YAPPING BE A PROBLEM AND WOULD OWNERS CONSIDER GETTING RID OF THEM,OR IS IT A PROBLEM ONLY TO PEOPLE WHO ACCIDENTLY STRAY ONTO OTHERS LAND.

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