skellyb 8 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) the calcium and phosphorus issue was brought to my attention by the vet Then your vet is a dick. What does he think is in in raw bone? and if you are giving weetabix, kiddies milk and fish mixture. I usually mix the blended veg in with the weetabix etc. Also they get cod liver oil capsules and halibut oil capsules mixed in with it. And 2 t spoons of gravy granules in the milk to improve the taste for um. then you aren't much better Edited March 12, 2010 by skellyb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 the calcium and phosphorus issue was brought to my attention by the vet Then your vet is a dick. What does he think is in in raw bone? and if you are giving weetabix, kiddies milk and fish mixture. I usually mix the blended veg in with the weetabix etc. Also they get cod liver oil capsules and halibut oil capsules mixed in with it. And 2 t spoons of gravy granules in the milk to improve the taste for um. then you aren't much better Skallyb if you feel like being helpfull at some point then feel welcome. If you want to slag me off your a mothers c**t and i invite you to do it to my face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
budgie123 163 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) I would strongley advice you to purchase the 3 books by Dr Ian Billinghurst The Barf Diet,Grow Your Pups With Bones and Give Your Dog A Bone. The answers to all your questions are in these books.There is in depth information on what to feed and why.Diets for dogs at all life stages are included.Every aspect of barf feeding is covered. I have just reared a pup as described in the books and it is so simple. Since switching my other dog to barf the dog has performed better even though he is now 7 years old. Local to me there is a farm shop were i purchase chicken carcases.My friend gets bones from a farm butcher for nothing.I purchase liver and hearts from a small local abatior. I buy veg from the supermarket. To produce veg in a suitable pulverised state I use a Champion Juicer. You will be very surprised as i was with regard the view of complete food in the books from someone who is a vet. Edited March 12, 2010 by budgie123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I would strongley advice you to purchase the 3 books by Dr Ian Billinghurst The Barf Diet,Grow Your Pups With Bones and Give Your Dog A Bone. The answers to all your questions are in these books.There is in depth information on what to feed and why.Diets for dogs at all life stages are included.Every aspect of barf feeding is covered. Read both, all be it briefly. Not essential but to those that are unsure of feeding raw, BUY IT and READ IT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) the calcium and phosphorus issue was brought to my attention by the vet Then your vet is a dick. What does he think is in in raw bone? and if you are giving weetabix, kiddies milk and fish mixture. I usually mix the blended veg in with the weetabix etc. Also they get cod liver oil capsules and halibut oil capsules mixed in with it. And 2 t spoons of gravy granules in the milk to improve the taste for um. then you aren't much better Skallyb if you feel like being helpfull at some point then feel welcome. If you want to slag me off your a mothers c**t and i invite you to do it to my face. Not slagging you off, just wondering why you want to feed a pup what is basically a load of crap. Weetabix, kiddies milk, halibut as well as cod liver oil alongside a fish mix and then feckin gravy granules, very apt name you have. For anyone actually interested in feeding raw as in rmb, raw meaty bones, (which is not barf)once again here are some decent urls http://www.ukrmb.co.uk for details http://www.rawfeddogs.net/Recipe/List for recipes) and to dispel some feeding myths http://www.rawfed.com/myths/ Edited March 13, 2010 by skellyb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 "very apt name you have." Yeah i thought so being that my dogs are named "Pringle", McCoy, and Quaver! Lol! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Gaz heres the pup having a go at a pigs bonce this morning! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted March 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Cheers Kev, Looks like hes loving that! Where do you get Pigs Heads from? Will Butchers/Abetoire just throw them out? Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 That one came from butchers mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 lol. I would strongley advise you to remember the Books are written to make money bit like Dr Aitkins and the aitkins diet and shouldn't be taken to seriously, certainly not as fact! If someone came and told you you should only give your family raw food you'd laugh at them, RAw, BARF born again BARf call it what you will it's all hippy "natural is best" tutt lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Sandymere, theres nothing to be ashamed of, why not come out of the closet. You admit that you feed your dogs raw food, does that make you hippy dippy? On the other hand you also give them everything else as well, just to be on the "safe" side. You say that commercial dog food is balanced but what is a balanced diet? The one recommended by the petfood manufacturers? If that is the case how come there are so many different makes (altho' often part of the same small groups of companies), recipes, ingredients. If all that dogs need to eat is contained in one "balanced" commercial food then surely they should all contain the same ingredients, protein levels, vitamins etc. You know, as well as I do, that there is nothing wrong with a raw diet, so what exactly is it that causes you to continually kick against it and label everything other than commercial food as hippy dippy? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 lol. I would strongley advise you to remember the Books are written to make money bit like Dr Aitkins and the aitkins diet and shouldn't be taken to seriously, certainly not as fact! If someone came and told you you should only give your family raw food you'd laugh at them, RAw, BARF born again BARf call it what you will it's all hippy "natural is best" tutt lol. Nothing to do with 'new age hippy' bollocks, to me its old school and makes alot of sense, simple as. We all want whats best for our hounds, raw meat diet is logically better. But thats my opinion and all that matters to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waidmann 105 Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 lol. I would strongley advise you to remember the Books are written to make money bit like Dr Aitkins and the aitkins diet and shouldn't be taken to seriously, certainly not as fact! If someone came and told you you should only give your family raw food you'd laugh at them, RAw, BARF born again BARf call it what you will it's all hippy "natural is best" tutt lol. Nothing to do with 'new age hippy' bollocks, to me its old school and makes alot of sense, simple as. We all want whats best for our hounds, raw meat diet is logically better. But thats my opinion and all that matters to me. for what its worth i agree.whatever we feed(personal preference,time,kennel/indoors .............)it should be a GOOD diet. i find raw feeding good,i also see the benefit of "ready"/bagged food and have a happy medium where my dogs look/grow well and have good coats and teeth,energy enough to work and play all day. from what i have read raw pork is not the best of foods though(aujetzki diaease,trichine etc etc) and so i do not feed it raw. waidmann Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I agree that a dog should have a good diet, if it's working the best available, but I don't see why it has to be raw, to me it has to be what is appropriate and digestable. The idea of biologicaly appropriate food is excellent then some hippy type goes and shoves RAW in there, why?????????????? and then carbs are bad again why????? Please share with me and all the rest some good evidence that isn't the usual hippy rubbish about it being natural or cause they don't need it. Please show me why some cooked meat or cereal or even a bowl of complete is not biologically appropriate. Now skelly If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times please don't make up stuff and attribute it to me if you want to say sandymere said then " quote " what I said & in context would be good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I agree that a dog should have a good diet, if it's working the best available, but I don't see why it has to be raw, to me it has to be what is appropriate and digestable. The idea of biologicaly appropriate food is excellent then some hippy type goes and shoves RAW in there, why?????????????? and then carbs are bad again why????? Please share with me and all the rest some good evidence that isn't the usual hippy rubbish about it being natural or cause they don't need it. Please show me why some cooked meat or cereal or even a bowl of complete is not biologically appropriate. Now skelly If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times please don't make up stuff and attribute it to me if you want to say sandymere said then " quote " what I said & in context would be good. Sandymere, I have no need to make up stuff and attribute to you. I think you quite often forget what you have said. Look back over your own posts, I have neither the time or inclination to continually cut and paste. If your memory is going perhaps you ought to look at your own diet. Once again you come up with a so called scientific term, biologicaly appropriate food, which is what? You go on about appropiate and digestible, what could be more appropiate or digestable than a raw diet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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