waidmann 105 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 he seems to be enjoying that a nice looking dog is he a russel/beagle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Thanks 'Kill Um' and nice photos! Looks like hes enjoying that. How long do you think you will feed dry food as well as BARF for? Just while hes a pup or forever? Do people feed pups on just BARF and do they do just as well? I really want to get away from ANY dry dog food if i can. Thanks Gaz I put my lurcher pup straight onto Barf at 8 weeks, i then decided to include a bit of complete food as well, but he wouldn't eat it after having the raw diet like the adult dogs . . . . . So he's been on raw ever since and i've never had a problem, he's fit, healthy and looks good. I also know a couple of people that have bred a litter and weaned them completely on raw, never giving them kibble. The pups were fine examples and in excellent health. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Thanks 'Kill Um' and nice photos! Looks like hes enjoying that. How long do you think you will feed dry food as well as BARF for? Just while hes a pup or forever? Do people feed pups on just BARF and do they do just as well? I really want to get away from ANY dry dog food if i can. Thanks Gaz I bought a 15 kilo sack of beta puppy once i knew i had a puppy coming so it was there ready. By the time its gone i expect he will be ok with just barf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 he seems to be enjoying that a nice looking dog is he a russel/beagle? Yup thats what he is mate! Brilliant bushing dog, fantastic nose and prey drive through the roof! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Thanks again everyone, you have been great. I will pass on the dry food and try straight on BARF. I will probably give weetabix and goats milk a few times a week while he is a pup aswell. Do you feed pups twice a day or three times? And if three times then when does it drop down to twice a day? 12 months? Thanks Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 You would do well to get a puppy mix too mate. It contains the calcium and phosphorus etc that a pup needs to grow properly and meat alone doesnt. You only need one big sack, by the time thats gone the pup will be old enough to not need it any more. Beta pup is only about 30 quid for a big sack. Others are cheaper. Not a bad price to pay for knowing its bones are ok during the vulnerable part of its life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Okay, cheers pal. What about the quantity of feeds when a pup? 3 times a day? or twice? Thanks Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) I let mine help himself to barf in the morning and then they all get a 2 hour walk between 10 am and midday. Their next feed is around 5 pm. For the adults its barf and for the pup its beta puppy. 2 or 3 times a week i give them all the weetabix, kiddies milk and fish mixture. I usually mix the blended veg in with the weetabix etc. Also they get cod liver oil capsules and halibut oil capsules mixed in with it. And 2 t spoons of gravy granules in the milk to improve the taste for um. Edited March 12, 2010 by kill um with crisps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Thanks alot mate, thats given me a better idea. Gonna get my beddy/whip onto BARF this weekend and then its just wait until the time comes to get a pup :-) Thanks Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Let us know how it goes mate. Dont be alarmed with your beddy/whippets poo afterwards. It will probably be very dry and there will be much less of it too. What breed pup are you getting gaz? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Cheers mate, will let you know. Im not sure what pup to get yet. Something bigger than my beddy/whip. Ive considered Collie/Grey x Bull/Grey, Also looking at Deerhound/Collie/Grey x Saluki/Bull/Grey. Im pretty open minded really though, It wont be for about 12 months, weve just had our first baby so want her to settle in for 12 months or so before getting a pup. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) Iv thought about a deer/collie/grey before. Will do one day probably. I want a straight whippet next though. Congratulations on the baby! Edited March 12, 2010 by kill um with crisps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Pups DO NOT need any complete or mixer with a raw diet. Dont beleive what a vet says about your dogs diet, most of them know f**k all about barf and are against it purely because they cant sell you their complete food. Most vets i have spoken to tell me its dangerous feeding raw bones and i should only feed cooked, its bollocks! The whole point of a biologically appropriate raw diet is to simulate a NATURAL raw diet, bags of shite do not come naturally. My pups been fed on raw since 8 weeks old as many many others have and they are all healthier than any complete fed or raw+mixer fed dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kill um with crisps 7 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Pups DO NOT need any complete or mixer with a raw diet. Dont beleive what a vet says about your dogs diet, most of them know f**k all about barf and are against it purely because they cant sell you their complete food. Most vets i have spoken to tell me its dangerous feeding raw bones and i should only feed cooked, its bollocks! The whole point of a biologically appropriate raw diet is to simulate a NATURAL raw diet, bags of shite do not come naturally. My pups been fed on raw since 8 weeks old as many many others have and they are all healthier than any complete fed or raw+mixer fed dogs. I agree that the vets DO give a lot advice based on what they can sell, mostly jabs etc. Feeding bones is perfectly ok as long they are NOT cooked. Cooked bones are brittle and therefor prone to splintering, uncooked bones aint! AS healthy as pups fed on mixer/complete only i dont doubt. HEALTHIER i do doubt. There may not be any benifit to using dry as well as (although as i said, the calcium and phosphorus issue was brought to my attention by the vet (albeit not trying to sell me anything)but there certainly aint any draw backs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Each to their own pal, but your vet is missing the whole concept of the barf diet. Dogs evolved on a raw food diet! Comercial pet foods have only been around 60 years or so. Basically theres no such things as a nutrient defficiency with a good barf diet. I dont understand why you feed raw but think you 'need' a commercial buscuit as well. Does your vet have much experience with raw food diets, or is it all theory? If a pup fed on raw has a nutrient defficiency then the owner has been a lazy twat and fed it entirely the same thing, like purely lean meat. Fatty meaty off cuts, bones, offal and minced veg will give you THE HEALTHIEST pup you ever had the pleasure of calling yours. Im not saying your doing harm feeding buscuit, but its not the best you can do. On the vet thing, they are not educated on raw food diets, thats why they harp on about nutrient defficiencies, with commercial foods thats an issue but a good raw diet its just not an issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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