Starting a Pup Off

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Ive done a search and couldnt find any topics on this subject, im sure there are some, but couldnt find them...

 

I am hoping to get a pup in the next 12 months, either a bull/greyhound or a bull/grey x collie/grey.

 

Ive got a beddy/whip at the moment, but i didnt have it from a pup, it was 18 months old and had already had a few runs when i got it.

 

So how do you start a pup off regards running and not causing itself damage? When can you let a pup run? And how much can you walk them when they are young? I know if you walk the knackers off them when they are pups then it can cause lasting damage cant it?

 

Any ideas would help,

 

Thanks

 

Gaz

[Water Badger 26]

Ive done a search and couldnt find any topics on this subject, im sure there are some, but couldnt find them...

 

I am hoping to get a pup in the next 12 months, either a bull/greyhound or a bull/grey x collie/grey.

 

Ive got a beddy/whip at the moment, but i didnt have it from a pup, it was 18 months old and had already had a few runs when i got it.

 

So how do you start a pup off regards running and not causing itself damage? When can you let a pup run? And how much can you walk them when they are young? I know if you walk the knackers off them when they are pups then it can cause lasting damage cant it?

 

Any ideas would help,

 

Thanks

 

Gaz

i will be intrested in these replys i have just got a beddy whip he is 16 weeks the guidence i have is from `the working lurcher by Jackie Drakeford and the lurcher training and hunting by Frank Sherdown` good luck

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Cheers pal, i should get myself a few books really.

 

Just wondered what the general advice given on here is?

 

Thanks

 

Gaz

[cooper101 86]

well to start with i would be teaching it manners walking to heel,recall,stay general manners before i did anything else (breaking them to stock is also a good idea young)!!

then when its older maybe say 4 or 5 months i would play fetch with it dont do too much as to bore it as this is the start of teaching the retrive!!

all this though is were i would be starting my pups training until it had these mastered it wouldnt even see a rabbit or be entered into the field!!

[Water Badger 26]

those books are good diet etc i know from them details like putting small boards in doorways to encourage jumping but gentley i also read an artical in countrymans weekley where a guy had ruined the dogs feet by runnig it too young i dont believe they should not have serious excersice until after 12 months. my boy cries after a short 30 min walk with the terrier due to pads not being hard enough i put it on here and got some top advice on creams etc

[wirral countryman 2,110]

when you say he cries after a half hour walk,what kind of ground do you walk on?is it nettles that are doing it?stoney ground or what?Every pup I've owned has came out with me most of the day,in the car,to the shop,on the lead sometimes while the other dogs work,you have got to get the dog out and socialise it,break to stock ,etc.walking on pavements normally conditions the feet,hardening and tightening them up nicely,tell us a bit more about it,did the creams work you were advised to use?beddy/whippets are normally a hardy sort of cross with not many problems,I've had the first cross and threequarter both steady dogs,can be a bit difficult to break to sheep though,don't leave it to late or you could have problems,a few bunnies at 9mts is about right to start off with,yis,wirralman

[waidmann 105]

mine is out for a few hours 2-3 times a week( bullgrey x bullwhippet) and has harder feet than my terrier(prt) the long one is 5 months the terrier 10 months.(same exercise regime at the moment).

i let him run when he wants and generally have fun in the fields. he will retrieve shot rabbits and pigeons alternatly with the little fella nd loves the fuss when he does

 

as long as he doesn't start chasing stuff(game) and getting frustrated i'm fine with the way he is doing(basic obiedience is in order.i do not encourage him to enter thick cover but won't stop him either).

he will growl at the horses when they come too close( which i obviously discourage) but has no problem with sheep at all as yet( i take him right up to the fence and he shows the same absolute indifference as the terrier).

 

the best excercise i have found is scrapping with the other dogs and running around like an idiot(as nature intended pups to do).

 

i'm not qualifying myself here in any way,shape or form. this is my first lurcher, i just wanted to give what i think is a good example(from what i've read and been advised to date).

have you seen the dvd purdies progress?? for the beginner not a bad insight i thought?

what do the more experianced lurcher men think?

 

i went a bit off topic there.

i was thinking of letting him on rabbits at about ten to twelve months.i take him lamping now,to get him used to the lamp and all that goes on in the dark(same with the terrier).

Edited March 10, 2010 by waidmann

[kill um with crisps 7]

My pups only 9 weeks old and he follows me when i walk the 2 terriers for hour and half - 2 hours in the forest. As soon as he had had his jabs he was on shanks pony, to heavy to carry for 2 hours! Lol! He was doing 45 mins - an hour straight off and then the rest of the walk asleep inside my coat but over a week iv weaned him into staying on the ground all the way. He also walks on tarmac for a total of half hour - an hour each day.

[Water Badger 26]

when you say he cries after a half hour walk,what kind of ground do you walk on?is it nettles that are doing it?stoney ground or what?Every pup I've owned has came out with me most of the day,in the car,to the shop,on the lead sometimes while the other dogs work,you have got to get the dog out and socialise it,break to stock ,etc.walking on pavements normally conditions the feet,hardening and tightening them up nicely,tell us a bit more about it,did the creams work you were advised to use?beddy/whippets are normally a hardy sort of cross with not many problems,I've had the first cross and threequarter both steady dogs,can be a bit difficult to break to sheep though,don't leave it to late or you could have problems,a few bunnies at 9mts is about right to start off with,yis,wirralman

 

the reply i got to advertising foot problems was

 

Hi ya, Your dog will have stung his paws. When puppies are young they have very soft pads and they get irritated by nettles, thistles etc. The symptoms are just as you've described and sometimes with the addition of scratching bedding frantically.

 

He will grow out of it as his paws harden. The best thing for it is an anti hystermine cream . .. i use benadryl . . . available over the counter. Spread it on thinly and it should work within 10 mins. Others suggest Sudacream or calamine, but personally i found the benadryl by far the best product.

[waidmann 105]

let the pup walk on hard surface and they will harden themselves up bud(my terrier still scratches the carpet like mad now after a while in the nettles and brambles).

this will keep the claws short too.

atb

[Water Badger 26]

thanks mate will do

[iceman001979 1,316]

I agree with every one else get the pups sitting staying etc etc my 2 pups are 5 months old now and 1 day walk them on the road for about 1 hour and half then the next day get about 3 hours with there dam over the mountain .l just let them, run about fighting and playing with each other so they learn how till turn and use the mustles there going need when they get older.Only have they jumping small stuff till there bones get stronger then l but there board up higher then start them on wire fenceing.Pups need time till be pup and not just rushed into the hunting game

[fieldsman 51]

Put surgical spirit on itchy feet it will harden the pads I dont think any creams ect will be much use unless you want to keep them soft like the wifes hands

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Thanks for the replies,

 

My main concern was walking too far, too young.

 

I will be hopefully getting a 6-8 week old pup, so as soon as it is jabbed up I will be taking it out for walking and socialising etc.

 

Most of the walking will be tarmac and then over some fields and hills etc at weekends.

 

How much walking would be too much for a young pup on tarmac? 1 hour a day too much?

 

My lurcher gets walked every night, about 4 miles in 1 hour approx, all tarmac.

 

Is it a myth that walking a pup too much can hinder development?

 

Thanks

 

Gaz

[poacher3161 1,766]

Dont put nothing on his paws hes a pup ffs let them toughen up natrually.