pitmanuk 2 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 im taking my 4 month old jrt dog ratting for the first time in a chicken shed and barn full of hay on saturday any tips as ive never been ratting before? thanks Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dont expect much, its only a very young pup. Quote Link to post
luke. 9 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Well said mate, in my oppinion just let it do its own thing and it will learn. I would of let it av ago at 1 in a live trap first pal. Luke. Quote Link to post
paulk73 151 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 keep it on a lead and let it watch the other dogs for now Quote Link to post
gazzer 1 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 another vote for a trapped one first mate, brilliant way of intrducing them,they will get bored and preoccupied too soon at that age mate, trap a live one and put them together in a shed or somewhere the rat cant get out and see what happens. Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 it will learn nowt on a lead let it run about, get used to the sights and smells... it may join in, or even try for one, cant do that on a lead. Quote Link to post
pitmanuk 2 Posted March 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 well its going to be in a closed shed first off with another good jrt who knows the shed well. so im hoping he will show him a thing or two. thanks for the live trap tip. i might try this during the week before we go just to get him used to it. Quote Link to post
gazzer 1 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 agree with BBB....no good on a lead, but try the small shed scenario 1st then see how it goes, it dont really matter too much about age with ratting but they do get bored and preoccupied,if you are fortunate to get a bumper rat where there are shiteloads of the things running everywhere then let him go and im sure hell pick it up real quick......the live trapped ones get them used to the smell and fast movement helps them hone thier senses a little quicker.youll be fine mate,most dogs take to it real quick. Quote Link to post
countryman5 5 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 im taking my 4 month old jrt dog ratting for the first time in a chicken shed and barn full of hay on saturday any tips as ive never been ratting before? thanks bit young mate i would just be letting it watch,at least till its got its out of its puppy teeth Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I can't believe the advice being given to an obvious novice by so called terrierman,4 month's of age is far too young to try and enter a terrier that still has its baby teeth,wait till the dog has its proper teeth fully down and can give a decent bite back,you'll only put the dog on a sickener and f*ck it up,it is cruel to enter a dog so young,at least wait 3 months or so,it is still a baby,yis,wirralman Quote Link to post
gav22 24 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 let him see a rat in a trap to see what kind of reaction the dog has if it trys to attack the rat when its caged take the dog and trap to a good open place let the dog at the trap again when the dog is trying to get the rat get a mate to hold him back an let the rat out in front of the dog let the dog go and it hopefully it will do the job. i have done it to day with my two 7mth old pups and they killed straight away dont worrie if the pup shows no agression yet as it is still at a playfull age Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 let him see a rat in a trap to see what kind of reaction the dog has if it trys to attack the rat when its caged take the dog and trap to a good open place let the dog at the trap again when the dog is trying to get the rat get a mate to hold him back an let the rat out in front of the dog let the dog go and it hopefully it will do the job. i have done it to day with my two 7mth old pups and they killed straight away dont worrie if the pup shows no agression yet as it is still at a playfull age not at 4months of age,yours were 7mths of age gav22,wirralman Quote Link to post
charliehunter100 22 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I can't believe the advice being given to an obvious novice by so called terrierman,4 month's of age is far too young to try and enter a terrier that still has its baby teeth,wait till the dog has its proper teeth fully down and can give a decent bite back,you'll only put the dog on a sickener and f*ck it up,it is cruel to enter a dog so young,at least wait 3 months or so,it is still a baby,yis,wirralman dogs off the right lines will easily kill a rat at 4 months i used to keep any litter of pups till 12 weeks old and would then try them on a rat and any that killed them without help id keep the others id give to mates and all the dogs i kept made the best dogs. might be just coincidence but its true. dont take this the wrong way but NO true terrierman refers to pups as babys its just not done as they are not babys and if treated like one will be ruined. im not saying he should expect it to kill the rats or not i dont no him or the dog but myself would expect a 4 month old to at least have a good go on one and to have had a fair few more by 7 months. im not saying it will be a top class ratter straight away and i know some dogs come good late but i find that the earlier you can get them out doing something the better they are learning all the time after all in any dog the 1st year is the most important. one of the best bitches ive ever dug to killed a rat under a pallet at 10 weeks old on her own accord i didnt even no it was there id only brought her out the kennel to show someone her as i thought she was to small and was going to sell her when all of sudden shes straight under the pallet and all over the rat. thank god i kept her rip old girl. charliehunter Quote Link to post
gav22 24 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 let him see a rat in a trap to see what kind of reaction the dog has if it trys to attack the rat when its caged take the dog and trap to a good open place let the dog at the trap again when the dog is trying to get the rat get a mate to hold him back an let the rat out in front of the dog let the dog go and it hopefully it will do the job. i have done it to day with my two 7mth old pups and they killed straight away dont worrie if the pup shows no agression yet as it is still at a playfull age not at 4months of age,yours were 7mths of age gav22,wirralman thats wht i said not to worrie if the dog dosnt show aggression because it is still at a playfull age Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 i don't believe people would even consider letting a 12 week old pup on rats they can't even bloody chew a bone properly at that age. any decebt rat will bite the shit out of the pup possibly causing serious damage(nose,eyes,ears).this will either make or break the terrier(imho more likely to break them,the first thing a pup will do is drop on the quarry or paw it,and get his reward no doubt,then running to the next corner yelping for mommy). other than that the vaccinations a still VERY fresh. the act of dropping live caught rats should be looked up in the pinned section i think a pup can go along and see whats going on but untill he has a full set of teeth and a start of phsical condition he should stay on the lead no matter how keen he is to "help out". this will only make him "keener" in the long run. DON'T SET THE PUP UP TO FAIL. waidmann Quote Link to post
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