Nothig is static .

[SHOTGUNSNIPER 47]

why would the army try to kill you all?or would you attack them?either way it would be; unfit, untrained civillians with civilian weapons and no real leadership against real soldiers,tanks,helicopters,planes, etc and as for the gorilla warfare thing? i dont think the average American has the feildcraft to even survive in the woods for any extended period

 

Example - Afgahnistan , Iraq - Most of the UN resources are being used in these two conflicts and they are not winning - The Islam Jihadists have no real centralized leader ship.

Most american soldiers will not raise their arm's against American citizens they will join the resistance and bring their tanks and helicopters with. Another fact is that the average gun owner shoots more and is a better shot than the average police officer.

Another fact 50% of all american gun owners have both military style weapons and hunting weapons.

Another fact in 40 states concealed carry permits are isuued and to get one of these permits an individual must complete firearms safety and self deffence training and pass testing on this training before the permit is issued.

There are plenty of leader ship resources that can easily be converted to gorilla resistance units. Lots of outdoor activities associations that will provide localized leadership.

Then then is the National Guard made up of x military and civilians lotsa tanks,helicopters and fighter Jets at our disposal. More on this latter.

 

One of the main reasons the Japanese did not invade the west coast of the USA right after Pearl Harbor is because of the facts that I have previously mentioned. You first question is Why would the army try and kill civilians - If martial law is declared then our National Guard can be brought to bear - the Nation Guard is a standing militia per state at the disposal of the Govenor of that state. The guard is made up of x military civilians and regular civilians both. Martial law would have to be declared to enforce the collection of civilian weapons and the civilians will not turn them over no matter the law. This is where the killing could begin. Or if the guard stands down and they probably will to join against the next action this is when the UN could be brought to bear by the president asking for UN/NWO aid this would be foreign UN/NWO soldiers against American Citizens and probably the Guard. This is where it would get real bloody Americans will not tolerate foreign soldiers killing Americans on American soil. UN soldiers will be slaughtered in this scenario. The UN is now made of mostly American resources this will probably change before any of these things happen in America and that alone would prevent the NWO / UN from taking over America. Americans change what dosn't work and will fight and kill if necessary to preserve liberty and justice. This is why so many Americans have died on foreign soil - so people like you are not forced to speak German and it is why we are in the process of liberating Iraq and Afghanistan. Life , Liberty and the persuit of Happines. To live as free men. You obviously havn't tasted freedom if you asked such a questions as you have asked

SGS

[mushroom 12,879]

why would the army try to kill you all?or would you attack them?either way it would be; unfit, untrained civillians with civilian weapons and no real leadership against real soldiers,tanks,helicopters,planes, etc and as for the gorilla warfare thing? i dont think the average American has the feildcraft to even survive in the woods for any extended period

 

Example - Afgahnistan , Iraq - Most of the UN resources are being used in these two conflicts and they are not winning - The Islam Jihadists have no real centralized leader ship.

Most american soldiers will not raise their arm's against American citizens they will join the resistance and bring their tanks and helicopters with. Another fact is that the average gun owner shoots more and is a better shot than the average police officer.

Another fact 50% of all american gun owners have both military style weapons and hunting weapons.

Another fact in 40 states concealed carry permits are isuued and to get one of these permits an individual must complete firearms safety and self deffence training and pass testing on this training before the permit is issued.

There are plenty of leader ship resources that can easily be converted to gorilla resistance units. Lots of outdoor activities associations that will provide localized leadership.

Then then is the National Guard made up of x military and civilians lotsa tanks,helicopters and fighter Jets at our disposal. More on this latter.

 

One of the main reasons the Japanese did not invade the west coast of the USA right after Pearl Harbor is because of the facts that I have previously mentioned. You first question is Why would the army try and kill civilians - If martial law is declared then our National Guard can be brought to bear - the Nation Guard is a standing militia per state at the disposal of the Govenor of that state. The guard is made up of x military civilians and regular civilians both. Martial law would have to be declared to enforce the collection of civilian weapons and the civilians will not turn them over no matter the law. This is where the killing could begin. Or if the guard stands down and they probably will to join against the next action this is when the UN could be brought to bear by the president asking for UN/NWO aid this would be foreign UN/NWO soldiers against American Citizens and probably the Guard. This is where it would get real bloody Americans will not tolerate foreign soldiers killing Americans on American soil. UN soldiers will be slaughtered in this scenario. The UN is now made of mostly American resources this will probably change before any of these things happen in America and that alone would prevent the NWO / UN from taking over America. Americans change what dosn't work and will fight and kill if necessary to preserve liberty and justice. This is why so many Americans have died on foreign soil - so people like you are not forced to speak German and it is why we are in the process of liberating Iraq and Afghanistan. Life , Liberty and the persuit of Happines. To live as free men. You obviously havn't tasted freedom if you asked such a questions as you have asked

SGS

 

 

No offence mate but are you on pcp?????? listen like any, gorilla warfare it is easy to eradicate with brutality and force so long as you destroy everybody/everything involved and remove the fight from those left. You yanks should know better than anyone Nagasaki? Hiroshima? I'd just nuke ya buggers lets see ya fight then

But to win war you have to be prepared to go the whole mile, secure and rebuild is our way. Murder, inhumane acts, abuse, Genocide, rape all these are by products of Amercan war. These although will subjugate and pacify a population. They will never win any war just like you yanks can't win anything because you follow this war code.

To be honest your gun freedoms have created a society where you are as likely to be shot there as in Iraq. Is that a nice environment??????? not like that in the UK but we don't have the same freedoms as you. Think you need to understand that although you are correct in saying we don't stand united you don't know why??

 

P.S remember America is just a spoilt teenager with a rich daddy in the eyes of the world

 

 

Disneyland rocks

[Malt 379]

SGS, I love your posts fella!

 

As has been said on this thread already, America is a very powerful, well meaning but very, very young country, and as such conveys a certain naivety in the way it goes about things and in it's collective thoughts on certain matters

 

When those British citizens over there took up arms against the crown, they were people like so many of us over here, pissed off with being ruled and dictated to by an oppressive regime and so had the means, and crucially the distance to demand, fight for and eventually win their personal freedoms.

 

These hard won freedoms are still fresh in relative terms, you guys are encouraged to remember, cherish, and protect those freedoms from a very early age. It has ensured a culture where the rights of the individual must be respected at any cost, and people prepared to die for them.

 

The British spirit is one of turning the other cheek and getting on with what we're doing. Yes we moan and grumble about doing things to change situations, but in reality that's all it will ever be, moans & grumbles.

 

..and IMO that's the problem

Edited March 20, 2010 by maltenby

[mushroom 12,879]

Can't remember the chap who said it but during the first world war the unrest in Britain initialy was described as "If it was in another country there would be total revolution but as we are British we have a grumble but are a trustworthy society" This best decribes us. In favour of change without the anarchy the rest of the world goes through.

[Malt 379]

Can't remember the chap who said it but during the first world war the unrest in Britain initialy was described as "If it was in another country there would be total revolution but as we are British we have a grumble but are a trustworthy society" This best decribes us. In favour of change without the anarchy the rest of the world goes through.

 

Yes old boy we're just to damn civilised, what!

[poacher3161 1,766]

Maybee the reason for the first world war so the peasants did not rebel like they did in russia

[mushroom 12,879]

Maybee the reason for the first world war so the peasants did not rebel like they did in russia

 

Exactly but not poacher this is the British way

[SHOTGUNSNIPER 47]

• We recognize in America that taking any steps to disarm the population is a major step towards tyranny and we wont allow it.
• Americans - soldiers or civilians will not tolerate foreingn soldiers enforcing tyranny. UN/NWO army's won't survive on US soil.

These two facts are why we will never lose or civil rights. Currently there are some politicians that are moving towards following the UN/NWO laws but this wont last long. I have many freinds that were liberal minded and voted for Obama believing his lies and thinking he could create a new world. Most of these friands have switched and are set against the current politicians in office. The majority of the population will simply vote all of these people and liberal policies away starting this November.

 

Americans are Americans - soldiers , civilians , defense contractors we all have tasted freedom and when these Americans go to foreign country's and fight oppression attached to the UN/NWO it only reinforces their most basic American belief - FREEDOM. It dosn't convert them into mindless UN robots.

 

Hey mushroom are you on mushrooms - I feel ya bro - just keep on reading and writing you will come around to a new way of thinking. I suggest some personal PM's with Poacher to discuss harnessing the energy from your anger and using if for a worthy cause. "Evolve or become extinct" who has that signature?

 

I really do apreciate being able to discuss this stuff with all of you and I truly do care about the UK - I love Ireland. I am just hoping you can stop being so damn civilized and kick some arse to get you civil rights working for you freedom and not against it.

SGS

[mushroom 12,879]

#no1 the UK has fook all to do with Ireland

 

#no2 we are angry just not enough to cause massive civil and human unrest

 

#no3 only narrow minded people claim to be the future it is the broad minded person that pulls us all (human's) together

[SHOTGUNSNIPER 47]

#no1 the UK has fook all to do with Ireland

 

#no2 we are angry just not enough to cause massive civil and human unrest

 

#no3 only narrow minded people claim to be the future it is the broad minded person that pulls us all (human's) together

 

Are you saying Ireland is separate from England or England is separate from Ireland? I don't understand what point you are making here.

Is England going to pull together with Ireland and---------------------------------------------what start a new religion? LOL

 

I don't claim to understand allot about UK culture but I do hear from plenty of pissed off UK folks on this site and they all have one thing in common they are displeased with the authorities and the government control/fecked up laws that are targeting your hunting,shooting and fishing lifestyles.

 

I am glad that Austrailia , Canada and the UK are teaching us that disarming the population and banning hunting dosn't achieve a thing it only gives criminals an edge and makes criminals out of law abiding people. They say a smart man learns from other peoples mistakes - Americans are intelligent enough to recognize that these laws are not working in other countries. Why fix something if if isn't broken. The less government the better for all - The more government and law's - the closer to tyranny a country moves!

[mushroom 12,879]

#no1 the UK has fook all to do with Ireland

 

#no2 we are angry just not enough to cause massive civil and human unrest

 

#no3 only narrow minded people claim to be the future it is the broad minded person that pulls us all (human's) together

 

Are you saying Ireland is separate from England or England is separate from Ireland? I don't understand what point you are making here.

Is England going to pull together with Ireland and---------------------------------------------what start a new religion? LOL

 

I don't claim to understand allot about UK culture but I do hear from plenty of pissed off UK folks on this site and they all have one thing in common they are displeased with the authorities and the government control/fecked up laws that are targeting your hunting,shooting and fishing lifestyles.

 

I am glad that Austrailia , Canada and the UK are teaching us that disarming the population and banning hunting dosn't achieve a thing it only gives criminals an edge and makes criminals out of law abiding people. They say a smart man learns from other peoples mistakes - Americans are intelligent enough to recognize that these laws are not working in other countries. Why fix something if if isn't broken. The less government the better for all - The more government and law's - the closer to tyranny a country moves!

 

 

 

Go back to geography school mate that scentence might aswell say Canada is part of Mexico. The point is Ireland (or Eire) has nothing to do with England. Northern Ireland on the other hand does! That is what they are kicking off about, half want to be part of England the rest want to be part of Eire.

 

Like I said there is more gun crime per population in America than in Iraq. So of course because you can shoot an intruder (which I agree with) or carry sub machine guns (which I don't) that makes you more safer??? right?? Ever heard the saying "Live by the sword die by the sword" lot oof truth in that.

 

Guns are nearly as readily available on mainland europe as in America and they don't have half of the gun stats the you do in America. Question why that is.... Because they aint dimwitted inbreds who think they need an assault rifle that fires a couple of hundred rounds a minute for shooting their car up

[SHOTGUNSNIPER 47]

#no1 the UK has fook all to do with Ireland

 

#no2 we are angry just not enough to cause massive civil and human unrest

 

#no3 only narrow minded people claim to be the future it is the broad minded person that pulls us all (human's) together

 

Are you saying Ireland is separate from England or England is separate from Ireland? I don't understand what point you are making here.

Is England going to pull together with Ireland and---------------------------------------------what start a new religion? LOL

 

I don't claim to understand allot about UK culture but I do hear from plenty of pissed off UK folks on this site and they all have one thing in common they are displeased with the authorities and the government control/fecked up laws that are targeting your hunting,shooting and fishing lifestyles.

 

I am glad that Austrailia , Canada and the UK are teaching us that disarming the population and banning hunting dosn't achieve a thing it only gives criminals an edge and makes criminals out of law abiding people. They say a smart man learns from other peoples mistakes - Americans are intelligent enough to recognize that these laws are not working in other countries. Why fix something if if isn't broken. The less government the better for all - The more government and law's - the closer to tyranny a country moves!

 

 

 

Go back to geography school mate that scentence might aswell say Canada is part of Mexico. The point is Ireland (or Eire) has nothing to do with England. Northern Ireland on the other hand does! That is what they are kicking off about, half want to be part of England the rest want to be part of Eire.

 

Like I said there is more gun crime per population in America than in Iraq. So of course because you can shoot an intruder (which I agree with) or carry sub machine guns (which I don't) that makes you more safer??? right?? Ever heard the saying "Live by the sword die by the sword" lot oof truth in that.

 

Guns are nearly as readily available on mainland europe as in America and they don't have half of the gun stats the you do in America. Question why that is.... Because they aint dimwitted inbreds who think they need an assault rifle that fires a couple of hundred rounds a minute for shooting their car up

 

I only shoot foreign cars!

[Swampy 147]

YAAAAAAAAAAAWN!

 

SGS As usual the ham shanks do not understand the subtleties of the British psych.

Do not meddle with what you do not understand.

Being English I have my opinions on the English Irish issue but I find that it is best not to put my tuppence worth in on the subject as the history, heartache and poitics behind it all is, and can only be felt by the Irish themselves. Whilst I am not ignoring the issue I will always support the decision made by the Irish themselves. I strongly suggest you do the same. Its called minding your own business!

Why do the hams think that it is their unalienable right to police the world? Sort your own problems out before you even attempt to understand others.

Your "perfect society" is FAR FROM a reality. It is a F***ED up society that is very very sick

 

Every now and again you lot keep reminding me that maybe the red indians did actually shag buffalo!

 

Swampy

 

ninging with a greater understanding

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

LOL.

 

SGS what you're saying is a load of sensationalised nonsense and is typical of what we can expect to hear out of American's that hear bits of this and bits of that who like to talk too loud.

 

I don't stay in this country because the Queen tells me I have to stay here and do as I am told, or any other reason other than the fact that there's not another country in the world that I'd rather be in.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCpzEtlM4ZM

 

God bless Blighty and all her children!!!!

[Lab 10,979]

SGS........Are you Osama Bin Laden?