Humane killer

[Guest busterdog]

As the title says, i'm putting together a letter to send to my FEO through my solicitor and would appreciate it if any one could tell me which forces and FEO's are still happy to allow the use of semi autos "pistols". Pm if you want, i just don't want a toothless letter filled with inaccuracies.

[Deker 3,478]

I think I'm getting the general idea which may have some merit, although what area of specialty your solicitor has will be interesting.

 

Nevertheless, any toothless and inaccurate letter from a solicitor hardly seems the appropriate approach for success...more like immediate refusal!

Edited March 7, 2010 by Deker

[Urban Fox Control London 8]

Herts Constabulary allowed me a .22lr single shot Pistol for the humane dispatching of foxes in traps. (Only to be used in the course of my duties as a Pest Controller).

 

This means that if i decide to become a web designer, I would have to hand it in.

 

I had to proved to my FEO what I was going to be using it for and he took a 6 page written statement from me to aid my application.

 

Security had to be vastly improved like there was no tommorrow.

 

I prefer my .22lr rifle with sound moderator as is far more discreet and there is always a second shot available if necessary.

 

My pistol is now simply as a reserve in case my rifle is in for servicing at my gunsmith.

 

I run a Urban Fox Control business so I could demonstrate that a genuine need was there.

 

The FEO and Chief Constable are always going to question "do you actually have a need for such a weapon".

 

You may need to speak to BASC to see if they think you have a genuine reason for such a firearm.

 

Do you run a Pest Control Business?

 

Are you a vet?

 

Do you work on a race course?

 

Are you ever called out to dispatch road traffic accident deer?

 

Do you do research work for DEFRA?

Edited March 7, 2010 by Urban Fox Control London

[Guest busterdog]

I should have put this on but I've already put it before, I'm a terrier man and have plenty of good reason to own a pistol. The issue isn't my need for one just the fact that it was a semi auto, the restrictions on my ticket were "2 shot" that's all but now they are trying to move the goal posts and are asking for a revolver.

All i need is police forces that allow semi auto's so as to give examples to my FEO. The solicitors letter is to demand the return of my property or a parshall revocation so as to allow me my day in court.

[burnie69 376]

Buster my mate in shropshire has 1 he's a keeper/part time terrierman so that'll be west mercia

[southdurham 42]

i wanted .22 they granted .me .32 2 shot pistol lots of letters two hunt masters and me loads of hasel thats co durham

[Guest busterdog]

i wanted .22 they granted .me .32 2 shot pistol lots of letters two hunt masters and me loads of hasel thats co durham

 

 

But was it a semi auto ???

[JonathanL 4]

 

 

The FEO and Chief Constable are always going to question "do you actually have a need for such a weapon".

 

 

Then they shouldn't be. You need to show "good reason" to possess a firearm which is not the same thing. Even the HO guidance says something along the lines of "Good reason should neither be equated with desire nor restricted to need".

 

Do you have a good reason in law to possess the firearm in question; if "yes" then you should be granted a cert for it.

 

J.

[danebrewer10 6]

i wanted .22 they granted .me .32 2 shot pistol lots of letters two hunt masters and me loads of hasel thats co durham

 

 

But was it a semi auto ???

 

 

I doubt it- it would have been .32 S&W which is a rimmed revolver cartridge...

why are you so interested in a semi auto pistol anyway? they probably won't grant you a semi auto unless the magazine is welded in else you would just change it for a higher capacity one if you were up to no good- plus you wouldn't be able to load the magazine from the top anyway as the rounds are not pressed in like a rifle mag, but loaded more mike a mag on a rimfire or a tikka T3- as they feed singly from the center of the magazine from a staggered or single stack depending on calibre and make, depressing the one below it and sliding it back in the magazine- looks likr the revolver is the only practical may worward, unless anyone else can shed any more light on this?

 

 

DB

Edited March 11, 2010 by danebrewer10

[Guest busterdog]

i wanted .22 they granted .me .32 2 shot pistol lots of letters two hunt masters and me loads of hasel thats co durham

 

 

But was it a semi auto ???

 

 

I doubt it- it would have been .32 S&W which is a rimmed revolver cartridge...

why are you so interested in a semi auto pistol anyway? they probably won't grant you a semi auto unless the magazine is welded in else you would just change it for a higher capacity one if you were up to no good- plus you wouldn't be able to load the magazine from the top anyway as the rounds are not pressed in like a rifle mag, but loaded more mike a mag on a rimfire or a tikka T3- as they feed singly from the center of the magazine from a staggered or single stack depending on calibre and make, depressing the one below it and sliding it back in the magazine- looks likr the revolver is the only practical may worward, unless anyone else can shed any more light on this?

 

 

DB

 

Thanks for the reply Dane but i was already granted a semi, as i said some numpty from the MET took it upon himself to try and give the whole system a shake up and get the semi's taken away. All i needed was more examples of police forces that grant them.

[sako trg 1]

i wanted .22 they granted .me .32 2 shot pistol lots of letters two hunt masters and me loads of hasel thats co durham

 

 

But was it a semi auto ???

 

 

I doubt it- it would have been .32 S&W which is a rimmed revolver cartridge...

why are you so interested in a semi auto pistol anyway? they probably won't grant you a semi auto unless the magazine is welded in else you would just change it for a higher capacity one if you were up to no good- plus you wouldn't be able to load the magazine from the top anyway as the rounds are not pressed in like a rifle mag, but loaded more mike a mag on a rimfire or a tikka T3- as they feed singly from the center of the magazine from a staggered or single stack depending on calibre and make, depressing the one below it and sliding it back in the magazine- looks likr the revolver is the only practical may worward, unless anyone else can shed any more light on this?

 

 

DB

 

Thanks for the reply Dane but i was already granted a semi, as i said some numpty from the MET took it upon himself to try and give the whole system a shake up and get the semi's taken away. All i needed was more examples of police forces that grant them.

GMP.I have a sig sauer 232 380 auto 2 shot restricted mag for humane dispatch another lad up here has a 32ACP WALTHER PPK and another lad been granted just been granted 38/357 so in theory could get the 38ACP desert eagle,380 auto 38 super or 357 sig.my mag isnt welded in by the way

[Guest busterdog]

Mags can't be welded in as it would make servicing the mag impossible and no manufacturer would stand for it as it would make the whole pistol unsafe.

The fact that a mag COULD be altered isn't the issue if it were then it would also be the same for a three shot shotgun. I COULD buy another mag but i didn't, i COULD have tampered with the original mag but i didn't, i COULD go out tomorrow and run a dozen people over in my car but i won't.

[sako trg 1]

Mags can't be welded in as it would make servicing the mag impossible and no manufacturer would stand for it as it would make the whole pistol unsafe.

The fact that a mag COULD be altered isn't the issue if it were then it would also be the same for a three shot shotgun. I COULD buy another mag but i didn't, i COULD have tampered with the original mag but i didn't, i COULD go out tomorrow and run a dozen people over in my car but i won't.

like I said GMP grant semi's,hope you get it back they sould never have took it.lancashire used to be like that grant then try to take it away for nowt,dont know what they're like now.I think wiltshire are ok with them as well.

[danebrewer10 6]

i wanted .22 they granted .me .32 2 shot pistol lots of letters two hunt masters and me loads of hasel thats co durham

 

 

But was it a semi auto ???

 

 

I doubt it- it would have been .32 S&W which is a rimmed revolver cartridge...

why are you so interested in a semi auto pistol anyway? they probably won't grant you a semi auto unless the magazine is welded in else you would just change it for a higher capacity one if you were up to no good- plus you wouldn't be able to load the magazine from the top anyway as the rounds are not pressed in like a rifle mag, but loaded more mike a mag on a rimfire or a tikka T3- as they feed singly from the center of the magazine from a staggered or single stack depending on calibre and make, depressing the one below it and sliding it back in the magazine- looks likr the revolver is the only practical may worward, unless anyone else can shed any more light on this?

 

 

DB

 

Thanks for the reply Dane but i was already granted a semi, as i said some numpty from the MET took it upon himself to try and give the whole system a shake up and get the semi's taken away. All i needed was more examples of police forces that grant them.

 

 

aah ummm looks like i'll shut my trap then... :icon_redface: I don't know of anyone round here with a semi- only of one chap with a .32 S&W revolver (2 shot)

 

DB

[danw 1,748]

i wanted .22 they granted .me .32 2 shot pistol lots of letters two hunt masters and me loads of hasel thats co durham

 

 

But was it a semi auto ???

 

 

I doubt it- it would have been .32 S&W which is a rimmed revolver cartridge...

why are you so interested in a semi auto pistol anyway? they probably won't grant you a semi auto unless the magazine is welded in else you would just change it for a higher capacity one if you were up to no good- plus you wouldn't be able to load the magazine from the top anyway as the rounds are not pressed in like a rifle mag, but loaded more mike a mag on a rimfire or a tikka T3- as they feed singly from the center of the magazine from a staggered or single stack depending on calibre and make, depressing the one below it and sliding it back in the magazine- looks likr the revolver is the only practical may worward, unless anyone else can shed any more light on this?

 

 

DB

 

Thanks for the reply Dane but i was already granted a semi, as i said some numpty from the MET took it upon himself to try and give the whole system a shake up and get the semi's taken away. All i needed was more examples of police forces that grant them.

GMP.I have a sig sauer 232 380 auto 2 shot restricted mag for humane dispatch another lad up here has a 32ACP WALTHER PPK and another lad been granted just been granted 38/357 so in theory could get the 38ACP desert eagle,380 auto 38 super or 357 sig.my mag isnt welded in by the way

 

Sorry to be pedantic but the desert eagle only comes in .357mag not .380acp the micro desert eagle comes in .380 and looks nothing like the original