wilko tango 50 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 your right chancer obviously the older and more experienced the damn and sire is the better your chances are of getting workers. but in my own opinion i think if lets say you had a young dog and bitch and they had an accidental mating i think it would be worth taking a chance with the pups if there is a good strong pedigree behind them. it happened to me so i kept back the 2 strongest done away with the rest of the litter. i gave 1 to a freind and kept one myself the one i kept i dug on tuesday gone and he done really well in fact id say he was the quickest of all my dogs to catch on. my only regret about it now is doing away with the rest of the litter Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 some dont dig as much as others if a dog is dug 100 times in 2 seasons and another 100 times in 4 seasons wich is better to breed from imo its not the age its the work thave done GOOD POINT FELLA YES ALL DIGS ARE DIFFRENT ANY TERRIERMAN WILL KNOW THIS IS IS 100 DIGS AT 2-5 FT ONLY 2,3,4 ENTRANCES WARE THE DOG WILL FIND EASILY AND BE DUG TO QUICKLY OR 100 DIGS AT 6- 9 FT 10-20 EARTHS WARE THE DOG WILL HAVE TO WORK TO FIND AND MOST TIMES BE THERE FOR A LENTH OF TIME TO GET DUG TO.??????? YIS CHANCER what im saying is some dogs 8 9 10 years of age still havent been tested they mite only be dug 10 times a season is that tested and some people say there dog is 100percent stayer but never dug over 3hours is that tested i think you no when youve got a gooden and if you or your digging pals need pups breed em Quote Link to post
Chancer 23 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 some dont dig as much as others if a dog is dug 100 times in 2 seasons and another 100 times in 4 seasons wich is better to breed from imo its not the age its the work thave done GOOD POINT FELLA YES ALL DIGS ARE DIFFRENT ANY TERRIERMAN WILL KNOW THIS IS IS 100 DIGS AT 2-5 FT ONLY 2,3,4 ENTRANCES WARE THE DOG WILL FIND EASILY AND BE DUG TO QUICKLY OR 100 DIGS AT 6- 9 FT 10-20 EARTHS WARE THE DOG WILL HAVE TO WORK TO FIND AND MOST TIMES BE THERE FOR A LENTH OF TIME TO GET DUG TO.??????? YIS CHANCER what im saying is some dogs 8 9 10 years of age still havent been tested they mite only be dug 10 times a season is that tested and some people say there dog is 100percent stayer but never dug over 3hours is that tested i think you no when youve got a gooden and if you or your digging pals need pups breed em AGREE 100%. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK A TESTED TERRIER IS,? AND WOULD YOU BREED FROM IT ? YIS CHANCER Quote Link to post
Chancer 23 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 your right chancer obviously the older and more experienced the damn and sire is the better your chances are of getting workers. but in my own opinion i think if lets say you had a young dog and bitch and they had an accidental mating i think it would be worth taking a chance with the pups if there is a good strong pedigree behind them. it happened to me so i kept back the 2 strongest done away with the rest of the litter. i gave 1 to a freind and kept one myself the one i kept i dug on tuesday gone and he done really well in fact id say he was the quickest of all my dogs to catch on. my only regret about it now is doing away with the rest of the litter YIS CHANCER Quote Link to post
Chancer 23 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 good post am sure you get diffrent response her pal i personally wouldnt breed of anything younger than 3 years old and i def need to see dogs work before deciding weither it is worth breeding from. my opinion of a proven worker is a dog that has a good nose can find (thats a must) and stay untill dug to no matter the lenth of time if it comes off after a certain lenth of time am sorry but the dogs not for me just my opinon. atb keano YOUR RIGHT FELLA GOOD ATTITUDE TO HAVE, YIS CHANCER Quote Link to post
top terrierman 90 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 some good post on this i would like to hear a few opinions off the older terriermen i know off lads that have breed off bitchs that were only young and not tested but they carried the right genes and it worked the pups were workers.what anyman dose for his own use is his own business some men know how to breed workers what ever way they do it. Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 some dont dig as much as others if a dog is dug 100 times in 2 seasons and another 100 times in 4 seasons wich is better to breed from imo its not the age its the work thave done GOOD POINT FELLA YES ALL DIGS ARE DIFFRENT ANY TERRIERMAN WILL KNOW THIS IS IS 100 DIGS AT 2-5 FT ONLY 2,3,4 ENTRANCES WARE THE DOG WILL FIND EASILY AND BE DUG TO QUICKLY OR 100 DIGS AT 6- 9 FT 10-20 EARTHS WARE THE DOG WILL HAVE TO WORK TO FIND AND MOST TIMES BE THERE FOR A LENTH OF TIME TO GET DUG TO.??????? YIS CHANCER what im saying is some dogs 8 9 10 years of age still havent been tested they mite only be dug 10 times a season is that tested and some people say there dog is 100percent stayer but never dug over 3hours is that tested i think you no when youve got a gooden and if you or your digging pals need pups breed em AGREE 100%. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK A TESTED TERRIER IS,? AND WOULD YOU BREED FROM IT ? YIS CHANCER if ive dug to a dog for 1 or 2 seasons and im happy with the way it worked and I need a pup i will breed from it i do understand what you are saying i wouldent sel the pups and say of 100percent workers i think all terriers no matter how old are only as good as ther next dig jmo Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 some good post on this i would like to hear a few opinions off the older terriermen i know off lads that have breed off bitchs that were only young and not tested but they carried the right genes and it worked the pups were workers.what anyman dose for his own use is his own business some men know how to breed workers what ever way they do it. spot on Quote Link to post
4x4hunter 0 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 its alright waiting for 2 3 4 seasons what if something happens to the dog/bitch wait another 2 Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 has any one had a dog work a full first season and jack on its second i dont no of any personaly just thoght ide ask Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 i dont think there is a right answer really, its all about judgement and risk. i have bred from a young bitche and do not regret it.i dug her sire and dam many many times so i knew what was in her, she started well and had a good few decent results before i bred from her. i took a chance and used her sire on her and now i am digging 2 of her pups. she herself has turned out to be a very steady reliable bitch.so as i said its all about judgement Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Got these two of Keano a few good years ago.And i f****d them up.I was told not to work them to soon.But me being a lurcher man.My thinking was get them out and train them up.bullshite lost two good dogs in under 18 month and of one of the best ground dogs i have ever seen them scribbles on my face is Chines for prick Quote Link to post
steveS.Yorks 161 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 some good post on this i would like to hear a few opinions off the older terriermen i know off lads that have breed off bitchs that were only young and not tested but they carried the right genes and it worked the pups were workers.what anyman dose for his own use is his own business some men know how to breed workers what ever way they do it. I wouldnt breed from a bitch of much less than 3 yrs old tested or not,but if the bitch comes from a line of workers it wont make any difference to the pups if she hasent seen a single fox as she carries the genes. If you want to create a working type/strain you have to test and cull the ones that dont make the grade,even then you will have some failures. The one time i chanced a non worker to worker it was an intellegent guess,the non worker had come from good dogs a few generations back and the dog was really well bred,if you just breed hard ones to hard ones you end up with hard dogs that arent my cup of tea at all,i like dogs that can be worked every week and dont take much damage but stay,the easiest thing in the world is to breed hard stuff thats pretty useless for regular digging,unfortunatly the steady really useful dogs take more work to "make" and are either passed on or written off as failures by blokes who dont really know the game or arent happy unless their dogs get badly mauled every time they dig with them. As for whats means "tested" Chancer,i suppose you would get 10 different answers from 10 different people,maybe a dog that suits the individual who owns it however how much work it does would be a start? We would generally have 4 adult workers some were better at some things than others and we picked the dog for the job in hand as a rule. 1 Quote Link to post
terrier410 53 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 dont want to rock the cradle but are you sayin a dam will throw better hunting pups one year after she did`nt hunt to well and now she does wake up lads dont think a year in a bitches life will make a difference all this talk of 3 seasons or 4 is shite you put the effort into a working bred dog and they will give you what you want if your work is tough get a bull if not take whatever maybe you feel better to have a 4 year old dam but dont reckon her pups will work any worse when she`s 2 years old Quote Link to post
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