in/line breeding

[dafydd thomas 13]

whats youre view on this and how close can you go without problems, im thinking of lining my bitch to her litter brother next year if all goes to plan

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

Would have thought thats too close

but im not a breeder so wouldnt know.

i used a sire over his daughter that was nearest

[Rain 232]

thats very close that is

[Thomsons dogs 37]

whats youre view on this and how close can you go without problems, im thinking of lining my bitch to her litter brother next year if all goes to plan

i done nephew to auntie but was staffys mate and all seem great as that was years ago no few others that have gone much closer with lurchers but each to there own i might if all goes well put uncle to niece long time down the line if alls well with my lurchers others will have more info for sure mate Edited February 27, 2010 by Thomsons dogs

[wexford Pa 84]

way to close pal..

is this a wind? :glare:

Edited February 27, 2010 by wexford Pa

[dafydd thomas 13]

no its not a wind up, as both animals are well bread i wanted to keep the blood pure if you follow me

Edited February 27, 2010 by dafydd thomas

[bigdogdog 5]

yu cant breed that close you will have litter of pups full of health problems

[poacher3161 1,766]

It wont be the first time its been done wat hybreds are they??atb dell

[minzy 16]

well to close

[Thomsons dogs 37]

way to close pal..

is this a wind?

look at most the saluki blood thats on the go the now not get much closer than that if anyone can khan can

[dafydd thomas 13]

theyre bull cross, personally i think its a fair question so why the head banging and shaking heads i dont know surely if you want a consistent type they must be in/line bred as much as possible as not to dilute the line with out crosses

[wexford Pa 84]

line breeding is a way of securing qualities or assets of a particular dog.Say for instance you have a dog that you deem perfect. ie has a good temprement, gives 100%, looks good without any defects.(it must have all these because by breeding close you will promote all the good genes as well as the bad). If you then answer yes to all of them questions you can start to think about line breeding ie LOCKING them disirable qualities.You could then breed your dog(sire) to two

good bitchs. one bitch(50%sire/50%dam) from one litter could be mated to a good dog(50%sire/50%dam) from the other litter this breeding would then end up with pups which would still have 50% of the orignal sire but 25% to each bitch.The orignal sire could then be mated to other bitchs who's offspring can be brought into the line breeding program.This is a simple way of explaining line breeding and with all genetics it can get very complicated.Many Huntsmen can trace hounds back over hundreds of years line breeding to a specific Stallion hound.With this type of breeding you hope to produce pups which retain mostly the same looks and temprements.

 

INbreeding is totally different but still revolves around trying to lock specific qualities.If you are not totally honest with yourself and don't see the problems with your dogs it can lead to all sorts of deformities.A typical example of inbreeding is father mated to daughter outcome 75% sire 25% dam.Inbreeding can be faster(time wise) than line breeding because you are breeding closer, but often Outcrosses(different breeding) are needed to address any problems.

 

Hope this helps a little......

......Pa

[Thomsons dogs 37]

yu cant breed that close you will have litter of pups full of health problems

how or why is that mate i done 2 lines with the staffys no problems at all and pups from them turned out great aswell and pups from them also i still have the auntie well my brother and i have the nephew they are 15in march the bitch that is and the dog is 14 in april and still good for the age of them

[wexford Pa 84]

These are just guidelines

Edited February 27, 2010 by wexford Pa

[dafydd thomas 13]

thanks for that pa, i do have a fair idea regarding breeding and heritability of desired traits and i guess it will only be as true as the people behind it