scottishlass 57 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 We are looking for a new 4x4 looed at many different makes i have seen 2 i fancy but canny make ma mind up freelander or grand vitara both diesel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 We are looking for a new 4x4 looed at many different makes i have seen 2 i fancy but canny make ma mind up freelander or grand vitara both diesel I also need a wee 4x4,.just a second hand one,..for hauling traps around the fields,...does anyone know anything about a Daihatsu Fourtrak or similar smaller type of off road vehicle... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,925 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) i realy liked my 4 track , but like all my cheap motors i dont look after them and run them in to the ground. on a posative note they are about the best 4x4 on fuel, proberbly cos there one of the lightest. a downside is the lack of space in the back, fitting 2 dogs ferretboxes and longnett baskets , pluss hopfully a pile of rabbits on the way back can be a real work of art. i now have a izuzu tropper , wich although shortwheele base has loads more space in the back . i have removed the back seats (just two bolts) 5 min job. this has given me loads more space and with some off cut of lino on the floor to catch the rabbit blood, wich i just pull out and hose down. i cant realy tell you any more than this , im not a real petrol head, both trucks have got me to where i have wanted to go, but im not some one who goes real green laning or up and down mountain sides. i susspect if your using it in a simmilar way to me then , either would do you depending on how much room you require. both can be picked up cheap (thankfully) one other thing my trooper is far more comfy ride, both on and off road it also does around 30 to the gallon, and has sonroof wich is real handy for lamping out off, but you need a scinny kid to fit out of it heres a few pics below is the 4 track ,you can see from this pic , i had to hang evrything up to get it in, you cant just pile evrything on the floor. Edited February 27, 2010 by TOMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Many thanks for that most erudite, and helpful information,...isuzu trooper ,...that's the one for me then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Keswick 119 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Many thanks for that most erudite, and helpful information,...isuzu trooper ,...that's the one for me then If you buy one of those, there will be NO MORE CURRIES for you Thirsty is an understament, they outdrink me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snorker 2 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 WATCHIN A FEW FOURTRAKS ON E-BAY AT PRES, SEEN SOME BELTERS GO FOR COPPERS. HERE A ALOT OF EM HAVIN GEARBOX TROUBLE, ?. ISUZU, THERE TUFF. USED A FEW TROOPERS.OK WOULDNT TOUCH A LANDY............. MITSUBISHI, TEMPERMENTAL. TOYOTA, BOMB PROOF, WERK WHEN THERE BROKEN.... VAUXHALL, ISUZU LUMP SO OK, 2.5 A LITTLE UNDER POWERED. SUBARU. OLD ONES, CHEAP AND RELIABLE.. NEW ONES COSTLY. I HAVE AN BRAND NEW SHOGUN LWB, AND ITS f****n PAP OFF ROAD. GUD JOB WOR LASS USES IT TO DROP BAIRNS OFF. JUST PUT 370 QUIDS WORTH O TYRES ON IT, AND STILL WANK. PURE CHELSETRACTOR.. TOYOTA ALL DAY FOR ME.................................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottishlass 57 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 no answer to my question Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gsi2000stokie 5 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 no answer to my question dont have a freelander, :thumbdown: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDFrain 1 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 my opinion is, i would stay away from a freelander, had experience with them and the clutchs are rubbish. the vitara not to sure. the main consideration is what you want it for, if its just for basic track work and nothing rougher then i would look at a Ford ranger, hilux or L200 If you are doing heavy work then a Defender 90 / 110 Also consider a pick up with the box on the back keeps all the damp, dog smells etc out and you dont need to worry about the mess. I have just got rid of my defender 90, couldnt fault the engine and off-road capabilities but you have to be prepared to spend mony on it to keep it going well (but worth it) I now have a ford ranger double cab pick-up as i wanted more space for people and also the bigger load space in the back, plus not doing as much off-road now so working out better and more MPG. A lot of people are using the suzuki jimny ideal if you only want a small 4x4 they will pretty much go anywhere with the right tyres on but on the downside you have limite space in them. Hope this helps with your decission JDF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorkyJohn 808 Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 There's no way a Trooper will give 30mpg, they are big, heavy, thirsty motors which you' prob get early 20's to 25mpg if you're honest. I've got a 2.0TD LWB Vitara which I get about 35mpg & they are far lighter & more capable offroad. With the rear seats removed there's plenty of space for dogs & gear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hue jeers 6 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Suzuki by a mile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boyo 1,398 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 had them all toyota the best but thirsty. vitara will go anywhere and the deisel cheap to run plus can get parts anywhere new or secondhand also plenty of room in thelwb even without the seats dropped chalky for what you require vitara would suit you fine. and scottishlass freelander smarter looking vehicle but vitara better vehicle for what you want . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gazzer 1 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 your in luck scottslass,we own both, my missus has the freelander and i have the old suzuki vitara....my missus dont go offroad much but we live in the sticks in a village...her motor will go almost anywhere,i bombed round a field in it once and it handles very well,u have the incline trigger which is great for v steep hiils,its great on deisel,auto traction.permanantly in 4x4 i think and still cheap on fuel,only prob with it is if u dent it too much its gonna cost u to fix,lots of room in boot....personally tho,i think they are are not really suited to hammering around fields all week,i dont think theyd last too long.....now the suzuki on the other hand....super cheap to run,insure....40quid to fill the tank,goes absolutely anywhere and will get out of scrapes that landies cant.all the parts are cheap as fook and as the engines are so basic and simple theyre bloody cheap to fix,cant fault them,sod the grand vitara, go for a good old one from mid 90's..you wont regrett it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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