big or small???

[Guest trill]

meet Duff hes the biggest hob ive got. thats better hes abit smaller now :11:

Edited October 16, 2006 by trill

[PETEWINN 5]

All depends how much digging you want to do. A large hob will easily pin a rabbit and give it very little chance to bolt. Hobs in general tend to work better than jills.

 

I normally use the jills first to bolt the easy loose laying bunnies and then enter a small or medium sized hob if I think the jills haven't done a good enough job.

[wife 1]

Hiya, Heres a pic of my Jill:

 

Little Jill

 

And im just curious to find out what 'jib on a squirrel' meens? As in spitting on it?!!

 

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looks like a nice size jill mate,what i mean is some ferrets will not tackle a squirrel,in other words jib,fail to work it,i have seen many ferrets walk in to a hollow in a tree and watch with a torch,once they get close enought o scent the squirrel,they refuse to work it or tackle it,move them to a rabbit earth and they go great,keep hunting

[wife 1]

and why would you wont your ferret to kill and lay up???? digging all fecking day!!

You obviously are new to the game so i wont go on ..

Nobody in there right mind want's a ferret to kill and lay UP.. .. if i had one that laid up i would shoot it no question's asked..

Now if the ferret kill's a rabbit that wont bolt then get's dug to then MOVES on to the next in a short space of time that will have a place in my hutch all day long..

Millet

hi there millet not having a stab at you mate but can i ask how long you been ferreting mate?reason for asking is you seem to be under the impression that small ferrets will struggle to kill there rabbits or be able to persuade them to move and possibly leave rabbits behind alive,i am guessing you are talking from personal experience and have had no luck with small ferrets and have had more luck with larger ferrets,i use small ferrets for most of my work and i have seen small ferrets come off rabbits that are in a tight spot,i have also seen good size hobs and jills do the same,do not want to turn this into a arguement like many topics seem to get into,all my jills and also my small hobs have no trouble killing there rabbit even in tight spots even if it takes a few minutes for them to kill it,it can be a advantage if you ask me as quite often they can get past the rabbits ass or over the back and manage to kill it or pester it enough to move and bolt,nothing worse than a ferret trying to chew your face off,most ferrets will scratch on the backend but bitches and mine from experience and being worked alot on rabbit and squirrel have learned which is the killing end and although we have dug down to many rabbits with bald backends they had met there death from the ferret climbing past them and a nip on the neck,i do agree with you however that a bigger hob or jill can manage to pull there rabbit out a few inches,i personally think it can come down to sometimes the experience a ferret has had working and also how well bred they are,or maybe i have just been lucky with my ferrets,good hunting and hope you have a good season and do not have to many digs,i can feel my bad back kicking in already,roll on those frosty mornings,keep hunting

[wife 1]

All depends how much digging you want to do. A large hob will easily pin a rabbit and give it very little chance to bolt. Hobs in general tend to work better than jills.

 

I normally use the jills first to bolt the easy loose laying bunnies and then enter a small or medium sized hob if I think the jills haven't done a good enough job.

i think this somes it all up and makes sense ,most people i have spoken to prefer to use hobs,reason being is they have told me is they seem to go about there work better and leave nothing behind,like i have said in my previous post maybe we just lucky with our small jills but we do have small hobs as well,we have had bred the same line of ferrets for years and no matter how small they have turned out if they have not proved themselves in the field and we have found they have not worked as good as another ferret have after a few months then we get rid of them,this way we only keep the best ferrets to breed from be it hobs or jills,overall in the small amount of ferreting i have done i have noticed hobs to be better,however on saying that the jills we have in our hutches some aged 6 and ,4 years of age are just as good as any hob,we have a few younger ones that are coming on great and fingers crossed they will not disappoint us,our aim is to get good blood in our ferrets and only breed from proven working stock,we find our jills and hobs even though they are small are great workers and shift or kill there stubborn rabbits and we luckily do not have to dig to much,keep hunting

[BITCH 135]

and why would you wont your ferret to kill and lay up???? digging all fecking day!!

You obviously are new to the game so i wont go on ..

Nobody in there right mind want's a ferret to kill and lay UP.. .. if i had one that laid up i would shoot it no question's asked..

Now if the ferret kill's a rabbit that wont bolt then get's dug to then MOVES on to the next in a short space of time that will have a place in my hutch all day long..

Millet

i,ve done enough,but if i,ve got to dig i,d rather be doing it to a terrier,not fecking dead rabbits!!!!!!

[wife 1]

hi there millet not having a stab at you mate but can i ask how long you been ferreting mate?reason for asking is you seem to be under the impression that small ferrets will struggle to kill there rabbits or be able to persuade them to move and possibly leave rabbits behind alive,i am guessing you are talking from personal experience and have had no luck with small ferrets and have had more luck with larger ferrets,i use small ferrets for most of my work and i have seen small ferrets come off rabbits that are in a tight spot,i have also seen good size hobs and jills do the same,do not want to turn this into a arguement like many topics seem to get into,all my jills and also my small hobs have no trouble killing there rabbit even in tight spots even if it takes a few minutes for them to kill it,it can be a advantage if you ask me as quite often they can get past the rabbits ass or over the back and manage to kill it or pester it enough to move and bolt,nothing worse than a ferret trying to chew your face off,most ferrets will scratch on the backend but bitches and mine from experience and being worked alot on rabbit and squirrel have learned which is the killing end and although we have dug down to many rabbits with bald backends they had met there death from the ferret climbing past them and a nip on the neck,i do agree with you however that a bigger hob or jill can manage to pull there rabbit out a few inches,i personally think it can come down to sometimes the experience a ferret has had working and also how well bred they are,or maybe i have just been lucky with my ferrets,good hunting and hope you have a good season and do not have to many digs,i can feel my bad back kicking in already,roll on those frosty mornings,keep hunting

Ok there.. ..ive worked and kept ferrret's for over 20 yr's now mate to rat and rabbit..

And ive seen and owned some cracking small one's and also seen and owned some cracking big one's..

But on the law of average's and experiance the bigger one's do better on heavily infested rabbiting ground as they kill quicker if need be and can get knocked about a hell of a lot more..

There's nothing worse than getting a mark on a small jill and digging a 6in away only for her to get dragged of by the rabbit and kill it else where only for you to dig another hole.. ..

Now if you are just going out to do small set's with very few bunnie's the smaller one's will do you fine which i have used on occasion's but put the same ferret in big warren after big warren and they soon get tired.

Millet

good post mate and makes sense,i agree with the bit about the smaller ones getting tired quicker,also that the smaller ones will take more punishment but we have found with ours that they do not get deterred,they take alot more punishment of squirrels than a rabbit could dish out and they have done 4s5s in a day and it takes alot of enery to kill a squirrel and is not easily done for a ferret,i have not had a small ferret dragged to far away and i have seen rabbits drag them a foot or so,i think what it comes down to is what your needs are for your sport and also what sort of ground you cover and also what size earths you ferret,i like to think my ferrets would do well in large earth and go on to work more in the same day but as you say they would tire more quicker than a larger ferret,good to speak to you mate and a good thread so far ,makes interesting reading and good to read what people use hobs or jills,good hunting mate

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My biggest jill shes 2 years and a good worker