will_rob 3 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 recently i've seen an advert in a paper for some springer cross lurcher pups. the lurcher was 1/8th collie, 1/8th whippet, 3/4 grey and this had been crossed with a springer. does anybody think these would be anygood for ferreting and a bit of lamping, and do you think that they could double up as a gun dog as well? has anybody had got a dog of this breeding and any opinions greatly accepted. i thought they sounded like a good allround hunting dog but not entirely sure. Quote Link to post
kevin kiely 66 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 recently i've seen an advert in a paper for some springer cross lurcher pups. the lurcher was 1/8th collie, 1/8th whippet, 3/4 grey and this had been crossed with a springer. does anybody think these would be anygood for ferreting and a bit of lamping, and do you think that they could double up as a gun dog as well? has anybody had got a dog of this breeding and any opinions greatly accepted. i thought they sounded like a good allround hunting dog but not entirely sure. wouldnt get it mate.get a lurcher for lamping and a springer for a gundog,theyd be used by now if they were any good. Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 I just can't see what a springer can add to the lots of different crosses already out there,big ears,big sloppy mouth,almost manic tail wagging,excitable,if I want a gundog I buy a gundog of the breed I wish for the type of shooting I do,if I want a lurcher it would be a specific type,for the style of work I do,there are easily enough good lurcher types already available,you would be getting the worst of both dog's with this obvious accidental mating,a gundog that chases so you can't take your shot and a lurcher not fast enough even to take a rabbit,the only chance is maybe for ferreting,yis,wirralman Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 recently i've seen an advert in a paper for some springer cross lurcher pups. the lurcher was 1/8th collie, 1/8th whippet, 3/4 grey and this had been crossed with a springer. does anybody think these would be anygood for ferreting and a bit of lamping, and do you think that they could double up as a gun dog as well? has anybody had got a dog of this breeding and any opinions greatly accepted. i thought they sounded like a good allround hunting dog but not entirely sure. Where I used to live, about 30 yrs ago, a chap had a 1st cross springer greyhound. It was mainly white and frowned upon for that reason. He'd tried to dye it black when I 1st saw it, but it had turned out blue. It looked like a large Bedlington. Anyway, it soon earned a reputation for being the best lamping dog for miles around and I believe he turned down good money for it more than once. Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,173 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 recently i've seen an advert in a paper for some springer cross lurcher pups. the lurcher was 1/8th collie, 1/8th whippet, 3/4 grey and this had been crossed with a springer. does anybody think these would be anygood for ferreting and a bit of lamping, and do you think that they could double up as a gun dog as well? has anybody had got a dog of this breeding and any opinions greatly accepted. i thought they sounded like a good allround hunting dog but not entirely sure. No. Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 recently i've seen an advert in a paper for some springer cross lurcher pups. the lurcher was 1/8th collie, 1/8th whippet, 3/4 grey and this had been crossed with a springer. does anybody think these would be anygood for ferreting and a bit of lamping, and do you think that they could double up as a gun dog as well? has anybody had got a dog of this breeding and any opinions greatly accepted. i thought they sounded like a good allround hunting dog but not entirely sure. Where I used to live, about 30 yrs ago, a chap had a 1st cross springer greyhound. It was mainly white and frowned upon for that reason. He'd tried to dye it black when I 1st saw it, but it had turned out blue. It looked like a large Bedlington. Anyway, it soon earned a reputation for being the best lamping dog for miles around and I believe he turned down good money for it more than once. romany 52 that dog you talk of must of thrown towards the greyhound as 1 or two do in most litter's,I bet you never heard many stories about the other's,I myself had a collie/labradore x that caught regular, but it was a chance mating from a nearby farm,first dog I ever owned as a kid,stories are still told of this dog by my mates, but I would'nt repeat that cross again,you will alway's get a one off here and there that makes its mark but the litter wastage in these crosses would be too high,yiswirralman Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Was this cross advertised in s.yorks by any chance?? as an old mate told me before christmas his lads springer had got to his collie lurcher and only realised [bANNED TEXT] the lurcher showed sighns of being in pup.atb dell Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 recently i've seen an advert in a paper for some springer cross lurcher pups. the lurcher was 1/8th collie, 1/8th whippet, 3/4 grey and this had been crossed with a springer. does anybody think these would be anygood for ferreting and a bit of lamping, and do you think that they could double up as a gun dog as well? has anybody had got a dog of this breeding and any opinions greatly accepted. i thought they sounded like a good allround hunting dog but not entirely sure. Where I used to live, about 30 yrs ago, a chap had a 1st cross springer greyhound. It was mainly white and frowned upon for that reason. He'd tried to dye it black when I 1st saw it, but it had turned out blue. It looked like a large Bedlington. Anyway, it soon earned a reputation for being the best lamping dog for miles around and I believe he turned down good money for it more than once. romany 52 that dog you talk of must of thrown towards the greyhound as 1 or two do in most litter's,I bet you never heard many stories about the other's,I myself had a collie/labradore x that caught regular, but it was a chance mating from a nearby farm,first dog I ever owned as a kid,stories are still told of this dog by my mates, but I would'nt repeat that cross again,you will alway's get a one off here and there that makes its mark but the litter wastage in these crosses would be too high,yiswirralman I take your point, I know who bred the dog in question, it was the only servivor of an accidental mating, the sire being a large, high on the leg working springer. If you can get the right physique the instinct is there in abundance . Quote Link to post
wrowmon 1 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 why not if you want one try it as long as you keep with it,its easy to get a lurcher to work to the gun and retrive my old bitch aggy used to work to the lamp,retrive game,shot by shotgun and airrifle.she even retrived duck shot on the foreshore ...so a cross like this might do the job for you who knows... Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 why not if you want one try it as long as you keep with it,its easy to get a lurcher to work to the gun and retrive my old bitch aggy used to work to the lamp,retrive game,shot by shotgun and airrifle.she even retrived duck shot on the foreshore ...so a cross like this might do the job for you who knows... you obviously put time and effort into making that dog the success it was,but would you take a chance on a dog that was neither a gundog or a lurcher,after all the effort involved in raising it,training it and maybe not making the grade,it would cause a lot of heartache if it fell short of the mark,horses for courses every time,lots of people cleverer than us have tried crosses you could'nt imagine,if it worked it would be out there already,yis,wirralman Quote Link to post
sharpey_93 0 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 a freind on our syndicate has one of these.its mainly white and looks more like a hound.beats well , doesnt retrieve but if theres ever a rabbit in the wood its off like a rocket.haha. good loyal dog tho , he takes it everywer , even [bANNED TEXT] hes doing his chickens and it never bothers. Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 I have often wondered about how useful springer lurcher would be,i would like to think very useful if bred right. I mainly use my dogs for hunting up and catching not just lamp work or slipping. I like my dogs to work their noses well.For this reason i could see the benefits of crossing...springers....and other gun dogs to greyhounds and having them somewhere in the mix...not just stopping at the first cross. At the end of the day springers have excellent hunting instinct would give alot more to a rabbiting lurcher than some other breeds do. As for if this cross was any good then there would be plenty about.....can't always write something off until you have tried it. Wasn't there a good lucher/gun dog in one of chippers video's...and that was only fairly young at that. Quote Link to post
wrowmon 1 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 people will not accept a cross away from the norm.a lurcher needs to be part this part that.what happened when bulls were first added did everyone say wow what an idea or why... most dogs will hunt and these pups may be good workers but it will take time and a lot of hard work to get anything out of them. i have crossed a dobie with a lurcher this was not a kennel cookup but something i had been thinking about for about 18months...i think with the right amount of effort they will do the job i want. i also have a ess cross lab which was a kennel cookup by a known dog man mmm this thing works all day and never tires loads of people took the mick but she keeps going when others are dead on their feet..... Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,602 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 why not use a lab or wirehaired pointer x greyhound both are more common crosses,and therefore been tried more often. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,182 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 heres a few pics of one i had , accidental mating. sire was a spaniel , dam collie cros lurcher , this dog only got to a year old unfortunatly. Quote Link to post
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