Grouping

[jasper65 6]

today I topped the gun up to its 170BAR Working pressure, measured out a Target to 30 yds and set up a nice comfortable bench rest, the garden slopes up slightly which meant I was shooting near enough dead straight Line Of Sight....

 

I went through 5 different Pellet types generaly sticking 10 shots through every target except the first one! the Mag only had 9 in at the time....

 

question is does this gun seem to Group ok or should I expect more? its not exactly Pellet on pellet as I have heard they should do but will it do? I must admit it didn't produce any fliers as expected and shot pretty consistant though out the test! the last target useing AA's two Pellets shot to the right but I can promise it was me....

 

the Bull measures 8mm Diameter, out ring measures 36mm.......

[Snoopy. 0]

Hey buddy.

 

 

First things first, great shooting. You're certainly not lacking in the accuracy department. Pellet on pellet groups are very hard to achieve, even at 30 yards and can take quite a while to master them if you don't get out in the field much. Before i started shooting HFT i found my groupings were good but i could never quite put them pellet on pellet. When i began shooting HFT i decided i needed to put some more practice in and set to it each night after work. Within about a week i'd fine tuned my prone shooting position so that i could hold a steadier bead and groupings improved by some margin.

 

This is a 55 yard grouping with 5 pellets from a harris 'pod no hold-over applied as i was making a hold over map at the time. very slight cross wind blowing from left to right.

 

 

It's not amazing shooting. But it just shows if you put the time in on the practice range it's achievable. Rifle used was a Daystate Huntsman Classic in .177 flavour and that's a .177 accupell in the picture for scale.

 

Out of the pellet's you've used the Daystate heavies seem to provide the best group. You'd need to adjust the windage and elevation slightly to get it on zero but i think that's the pellet to go with.

 

I commend you once again on some very decent shooting matey and all i can advice is practice, practice, practice and some more practice. Given a week to 14 days of "heavy" practice, your shooting will have improved by quite abit.

 

Shaun.

Edited February 24, 2010 by Snoopy.

[farmerkev09 105]

nice shooting pal

 

farmer

[stealthy1 3,964]

Good enough groups to knock the lights out of any bunny

[sibaldib 6]

Good enough groups to knock the lights out of any bunny

 

Exactly.

 

If you can group like that when out hunting, you'll have no problems.

 

Sib

[Sweeney-Todd 208]

Hiya Jasper.

 

Nothing wrong with that mate

 

Good shooting.

 

 

ATB.

 

 

 

 

 

Bill.

[Sweeney-Todd 208]

Hi Shaun.

 

That is some shooting over 55yds.

What scope and reticule patern are you using?

 

Very nice.

 

 

Bill.

[jasper65 6]

Cheers lads for the replies . To be honest I have been winging like hell lately about this Air Ranger from its grouping to its overall weight scoped, Its a fair Lump to be holding freehand while Hunting tree rats and I must admit today while taking a stroll I was all over the place!! one of them days I suppose....

 

Don't get me wrong I love the scope and rifle combination but with a bit more Practice and a good few thousand Pellets things hopefully should come together in reading Ranges, Windage, and the amount of Holdover through a range of targets at different angles...

 

Just thought I would mention how bad my shooting is! if you look at the first picture in the middle far left you'll see one of my Bantams running for cover

 

atb

 

Jasp

 

 

Hey buddy.

 

 

First things first, great shooting. You're certainly not lacking in the accuracy department. Pellet on pellet groups are very hard to achieve, even at 30 yards and can take quite a while to master them if you don't get out in the field much. Before i started shooting HFT i found my groupings were good but i could never quite put them pellet on pellet. When i began shooting HFT i decided i needed to put some more practice in and set to it each night after work. Within about a week i'd fine tuned my prone shooting position so that i could hold a steadier bead and groupings improved by some margin.

 

This is a 55 yard grouping with 5 pellets from a harris 'pod no hold-over applied as i was making a hold over map at the time. very slight cross wind blowing from left to right.

 

 

It's not amazing shooting. But it just shows if you put the time in on the practice range it's achievable. Rifle used was a Daystate Huntsman Classic in .177 flavour and that's a .177 accupell in the picture for scale.

 

Out of the pellet's you've used the Daystate heavies seem to provide the best group. You'd need to adjust the windage and elevation slightly to get it on zero but i think that's the pellet to go with.

 

I commend you once again on some very decent shooting matey and all i can advice is practice, practice, practice and some more practice. Given a week to 14 days of "heavy" practice, your shooting will have improved by quite abit.

 

Shaun.

 

Hello Shaun

 

Thats pretty devistating stuff pal . Like you say lots of practice brings results! it certainly looks like you've done your homework and mastered a style technique that suits you.

 

To be Honest I have been thinking lately of passing on the Air Ranger in for a Daystate MK4 or Huntsman, but I'm going to stick with it even though its a lump to cart around Hunting...

 

cheers

 

Jasper

[Snoopy. 0]

Hi Shaun.

 

That is some shooting over 55yds.

What scope and reticule patern are you using?

 

Very nice.

 

 

Bill.

 

Hi Bill,

 

I use the MTC viper 4-16x50 IRS with the SCB recticle. It's a really great bit of kit and serves me well. :kiss:

 

Shaun.

[Malt 379]

Nowt wrong with those groupings Jasp! :good:

[Snoopy. 0]

What a garden you have too Jasper. I can only dreaming of having such a place. Superb Almost reminds of River Cottage. I do hope that you have a better Hair-Do' than Hugh

 

 

Shaun.

Edited February 24, 2010 by Snoopy.

[garfield 23]

you might find that cleaning the barrel between pellet makes and taking 20 shots instead of 10 will help as the barrel will not be leaded in with that particular pellet type after 10 shots from what i can see you and your rifle are very capable of good groupings have you lubed your pellets??

[Phantom 631]

Darn good groups there to you both

 

Just wait till you hit the real Chesire Cat Grin Maker! Thats when you fuse two or more pellets together in the backstop making one lump of lead

Yes I HAVE done it and before anyone starts saying prove it, I already have done on here and other forums. Although I've never done it with a .177

 

Well done to yah both

 

Phantom

Edited February 24, 2010 by Phantom

[squaker.177 1]

you might find that cleaning the barrel between pellet makes and taking 20 shots instead of 10 will help as the barrel will not be leaded in with that particular pellet type after 10 shots from what i can see you and your rifle are very capable of good groupings have you lubed your pellets??

 

i was under the impression you dont need to clean the barrel of an air rifle, or you 'shouldnt' clean the barrel?

 

i may be wrong though, someone will correct me

[Snoopy. 0]

you might find that cleaning the barrel between pellet makes and taking 20 shots instead of 10 will help as the barrel will not be leaded in with that particular pellet type after 10 shots from what i can see you and your rifle are very capable of good groupings have you lubed your pellets??

 

i was under the impression you dont need to clean the barrel of an air rifle, or you 'shouldnt' clean the barrel?

 

i may be wrong though, someone will correct me

 

 

You shouldn't ever clean an air rifle barrel. Not until you start to lose accuracy. The rifling on the barrel collects tiny deposit's of lead and these are essential to giving the pellet a smooth twist in the barrel. So you are quite right buddy. I often siwtch pellets depending on range and quarry and accuracy is not effected in the slightest. Neither do i believe in lubing pellet's I tried lubing and weighing several times and didn't see any marked improvement in accuracy. Leading in a barrel properly takes on average 300-400 pellet's. So cleaning after every 20 shot's will do more harm than good in my opinion.

 

I suppose it depends on what take you have on your hobby though.

 

Shaun.

Edited February 25, 2010 by Snoopy.