Parson breeding question

[cran 0]

looking at a parson terrier and have been told both parents work and are working strain. before i get all the responses i know they are also show dogs and have been told this, plus i breed & train working collies so know looks shouldn't matter etc so....

the parents are Windynook and Glenholm breeding was wondering if anyone has worked these strains or come accross them before?

[Cleanspade 3,322]

i would look for howlbeck lines mate as they have a much stronger working background. ive seen the lines your on about and if your getting it for rabbiting it should be fine

[lilvixen 26]

i would look for howlbeck lines mate as they have a much stronger working background. ive seen the lines your on about and if your getting it for rabbiting it should be fine

 

Windynook is pretty much the closest you'll get to Howlbeck these days, but definately not bred for their working abilities.

[mart 131]

i would look for howlbeck lines mate as they have a much stronger working background. ive seen the lines your on about and if your getting it for rabbiting it should be fine

 

you´ve got a pm, mate

[Cleanspade 3,322]

i would look for howlbeck lines mate as they have a much stronger working background. ive seen the lines your on about and if your getting it for rabbiting it should be fine

 

Windynook is pretty much the closest you'll get to Howlbeck these days, but definately not bred for their working abilities.

 

very few parsons are now. what are the best working lines about just now?

[mart 131]

yeah, what are the best working lines today?

the swedes got some very good lines, with radagst kennels being the top of the notch parsonrussell.se

[lilvixen 26]

yeah, what are the best working lines today?

the swedes got some very good lines, with radagst kennels being the top of the notch parsonrussell.se

 

Best place to look probably would be the continent, however not sure many dogs do much beyond "trials".

 

In the uk I don't think there is anybody with dogs from the original registration regularly testing there dogs as they should be. There are some people who registered dogs when it reopened that work them but I've seen a couple of dogs from some of these "latecomers" and wasn't overly impressed. There is the odd dog that does the job but consistent lines of registered parsons, very much doubt you'll find it in Uk.

[mart 131]

yeah, what are the best working lines today?

the swedes got some very good lines, with radagst kennels being the top of the notch parsonrussell.se

 

Best place to look probably would be the continent, however not sure many dogs do much beyond "trials".

 

In the uk I don't think there is anybody with dogs from the original registration regularly testing there dogs as they should be. There are some people who registered dogs when it reopened that work them but I've seen a couple of dogs from some of these "latecomers" and wasn't overly impressed. There is the odd dog that does the job but consistent lines of registered parsons, very much doubt you'll find it in Uk.

 

what faults did the late comers have, if you dont mind?

the dogs we have in scandinavia will bolt foxes and stay with badgers, some are used for roedeer, wildboar, elk and deer as well.

think its much the same on the continent, at least in germany.

[shellywarwick 6]

Howlbeck pebbles came to me via a friend and i bred a unregistered litter to another Howlbeck dog he gave me.Both of the pups worked well,then mated the bitch out of these to a patterdale and have produced two hard bitchs with good nose and a wire type coat.I would get something from as close to howlbeck as possible for work

[lilvixen 26]

yeah, what are the best working lines today?

the swedes got some very good lines, with radagst kennels being the top of the notch parsonrussell.se

 

Best place to look probably would be the continent, however not sure many dogs do much beyond "trials".

 

In the uk I don't think there is anybody with dogs from the original registration regularly testing there dogs as they should be. There are some people who registered dogs when it reopened that work them but I've seen a couple of dogs from some of these "latecomers" and wasn't overly impressed. There is the odd dog that does the job but consistent lines of registered parsons, very much doubt you'll find it in Uk.

 

what faults did the late comers have, if you dont mind?

the dogs we have in scandinavia will bolt foxes and stay with badgers, some are used for roedeer, wildboar, elk and deer as well.

think its much the same on the continent, at least in germany.

 

In terms of faults, either didn't want to enter or wouldnt stay to ground once they found!! I've been to Germany and seen some of their dogs but OH is desperate to see some earth work in Scandinavia, might even find some decent working bloodlines to bring back over here!

[lilvixen 26]

Howlbeck pebbles came to me via a friend and i bred a unregistered litter to another Howlbeck dog he gave me.Both of the pups worked well,then mated the bitch out of these to a patterdale and have produced two hard bitchs with good nose and a wire type coat.I would get something from as close to howlbeck as possible for work

 

Howlbeck pebbles was I believe full sister to Howlbeck Piper who produced some working stuff but also had a bit of a suspect temperament. Again though both those dogs would likely be several generations back in anything these days and very diluted.

Hope you gave her a happy retirement after that seeing as that would be at least her 7th litter!

[Cleanspade 3,322]

howlbeck piper was a gassy dog. pebbles was his sister and both produced some really good terriers both work and looks wise my trusty was out of piper and a decent dog hard to fault at work and although rarely shown gained a cc. however he had a wicked temperement. there is a dog not far from me with two lines to trusty /piper. again he has a wicked side and is a big dog. as a matter of interest every pup in the litter from piper. five in all. worked to ground not a bad result trusty produced one or two good dogs and one or two not so good. if you can find these lines. they are worth a look

[shellywarwick 6]

well pebbles did get a good retirement THANKS!!! she died on my settee.she killed several foxes for me in her old age i thought the world of her.Ive just been around my sons to have a look at her daughter 10yrs plus. and i have her granddaughter here in pup to a lakeland dog of mine.Pebbles was also fiery but a beautiful bitch to look at.these dogs are only 1 and 2 genarations away from PEBBLES so hardy diluted lines. i know it was her 7th litter but ive had working dogs for 40 plus years and trained greyhounds most of my life so i know she was in tip top condition when she whelped her last litter.

Edited February 24, 2010 by shellywarwick