watchman 256 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) penny taylor done a piece on this in cmw few weeks ago,and if i remember rightly was slated by a few on here,exact words by one was,are carbs good for your dog ffs,well after reading all your posts perhaps a few more people should have read it Edited February 24, 2010 by watchman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spep21 0 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 penny taylor done a piece on this in cmw few weeks ago,and if i remember rightly was slated by a few on here,exact words by one was,are carbs good for your dog ffs,well after reading all your posts perhaps a few more people should have read it What did it say? Are they or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watchman 256 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) penny taylor done a piece on this in cmw few weeks ago,and if i remember rightly was slated by a few on here,exact words by one was,are carbs good for your dog ffs,well after reading all your posts perhaps a few more people should have read it What did it say? Are they or not? dont know,dont care,but then im not the one arguing over it,feed mine raw never had any probs Edited February 24, 2010 by watchman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 585 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 The best and only diet a dog needs are red meat.. white meat.. vegatble (found within a whole carcass) bone and fresh drinking water........ a dog or wild animal doesnt need pasta in its diet at all... dogs derive energy from animal fat ... fact. ... atb stabba Why cant people read the thread.Dog are not wild animal.(well not mine) Next time you see your vet ask the best diet for a pup Yeah, they will probably try to sell you a 5kg bag of dried food for £40! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 The best and only diet a dog needs are red meat.. white meat.. vegatble (found within a whole carcass) bone and fresh drinking water........ a dog or wild animal doesnt need pasta in its diet at all... dogs derive energy from animal fat ... fact. ... atb stabba Why cant people read the thread.Dog are not wild animal.(well not mine) Next time you see your vet ask the best diet for a pup The same vets who presumably know that the best diet for cows, herbivores, is to be feed them the remains of other cattle. Remember BSE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba That will depend if they get an alternate carb source and if not then of course it will do good as it will supply a direct form of glucose so the dog doesn't need to reprocess fat into glucose which would be less efficient. Its all about balence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba That will depend if they get an alternate carb source and if not then of course it will do good as it will supply a direct form of glucose so the dog doesn't need to reprocess fat into glucose which would be less efficient. Its all about balence. If you want to feed your dog pasta that is up to you but I will repeat again, a dog does not NEED carbs/pasta. Dogs can quite adequately manage to produce glucose from fats and proteins. You will never hear of "carbohydrate deficiency" in a dog quite simply because there is no NEED for carbohydrates in a dogs diet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba That will depend if they get an alternate carb source and if not then of course it will do good as it will supply a direct form of glucose so the dog doesn't need to reprocess fat into glucose which would be less efficient. Its all about balence. If you want to feed your dog pasta that is up to you but I will repeat again, a dog does not NEED carbs/pasta. Dogs can quite adequately manage to produce glucose from fats and proteins. You will never hear of "carbohydrate deficiency" in a dog quite simply because there is no NEED for carbohydrates in a dogs diet. FEEDING THE RACING GREYHOUND Your aim in feeding greyhounds is to provide a balanced diet that maintains them in good condition, and allows them to perform to their maximum potential on the racetrack. To achieve this aim you need to know what nutrients are contained in the different ingredients that make up a greyhound’s ration. A nutrient is something a greyhound needs to help it to grow, stay alive and work, as nutrients provides greyhounds with energy. There are six nutrient groups that are needed in a greyhound’s daily ration: 1.Water 2.Protein (amino acids 3.Carbohydrates/Fiber 4.Fat 5.Vitamin 6.Minerals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba That will depend if they get an alternate carb source and if not then of course it will do good as it will supply a direct form of glucose so the dog doesn't need to reprocess fat into glucose which would be less efficient. Its all about balence. If you want to feed your dog pasta that is up to you but I will repeat again, a dog does not NEED carbs/pasta. Dogs can quite adequately manage to produce glucose from fats and proteins. You will never hear of "carbohydrate deficiency" in a dog quite simply because there is no NEED for carbohydrates in a dogs diet. FEEDING THE RACING GREYHOUND Your aim in feeding greyhounds is to provide a balanced diet that maintains them in good condition, and allows them to perform to their maximum potential on the racetrack. To achieve this aim you need to know what nutrients are contained in the different ingredients that make up a greyhound’s ration. A nutrient is something a greyhound needs to help it to grow, stay alive and work, as nutrients provides greyhounds with energy. There are six nutrient groups that are needed in a greyhound’s daily ration: 1.Water 2.Protein (amino acids 3.Carbohydrates/Fiber 4.Fat 5.Vitamin 6.Minerals And that comes from where and is based on what. From that list ALL dogs need 1,2,4,5,6, and no, they do not need fibre either. If you feel your dog needs carbohydrates then the dog is overworked and/or it is not getting enough proteins and fats Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba i feed mine a mixed varied diet they look and handle well on it so i`m happy . i include a small amout of pasta and rice a couple of times a week .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba That will depend if they get an alternate carb source and if not then of course it will do good as it will supply a direct form of glucose so the dog doesn't need to reprocess fat into glucose which would be less efficient. Its all about balence. If you want to feed your dog pasta that is up to you but I will repeat again, a dog does not NEED carbs/pasta. Dogs can quite adequately manage to produce glucose from fats and proteins. You will never hear of "carbohydrate deficiency" in a dog quite simply because there is no NEED for carbohydrates in a dogs diet. FEEDING THE RACING GREYHOUND Your aim in feeding greyhounds is to provide a balanced diet that maintains them in good condition, and allows them to perform to their maximum potential on the racetrack. To achieve this aim you need to know what nutrients are contained in the different ingredients that make up a greyhound’s ration. A nutrient is something a greyhound needs to help it to grow, stay alive and work, as nutrients provides greyhounds with energy. There are six nutrient groups that are needed in a greyhound’s daily ration: 1.Water 2.Protein (amino acids 3.Carbohydrates/Fiber 4.Fat 5.Vitamin 6.Minerals And that comes from where and is based on what. From that list ALL dogs need 1,2,4,5,6, and no, they do not need fibre either. If you feel your dog needs carbohydrates then the dog is overworked and/or it is not getting enough proteins and fats How about based on; Performance dog feeding Arleigh Reynolds, DVM, PhD, DACVN Jill Cline, PhD (2005) Dogs involved in sprinting and weight pulling activities such as sight hound racing or sledge pulling competitions undergo short periods of very intense exercise. These types of dogs typically do not have higher energy requirements than those of moderately active pet dogs. A greyhound expends approximately 75 kcal per race6. The energy required for these types of activities is solely anaerobic and comes from the muscle energy stores. Most canine athletes engaged in sprint type activities have an energy requirement of 1.6-2 X resting energy rate1. An appropriate feeding regime for sprint type canine athletes consists of a diet that contains approximately 25% calories from protein, 30% calories from fat and 45% calories from carbohydrates Robert L. Gillette, DVM, MSE Sprint athletes utilize the one enzyme system and the glycolytic energy system. The duration of their activity does not last long enough to access energy from the oxidative energy system. Their base diet should include a high percentage of carbohydrates and protein. Joseph J. Wakshlag, MS, DVM (2004) In light of these findings and other recent literature that discusses the use of postexercise carbohydrate supplements in racing sled dogs, it seems that such supplements may be particularly beneficial for these sprint-racing sled dogs to replenish glycogen stores.15,16 Although exercising dogs thrive on anaerobic oxidative fat metabolism for their primary source of energy, it is clear that glucose is being used as an energy source during this high-intensity exercise. I would like to see the studies your evidence is based on can you please post for all to read? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba That will depend if they get an alternate carb source and if not then of course it will do good as it will supply a direct form of glucose so the dog doesn't need to reprocess fat into glucose which would be less efficient. Its all about balence. If you want to feed your dog pasta that is up to you but I will repeat again, a dog does not NEED carbs/pasta. Dogs can quite adequately manage to produce glucose from fats and proteins. You will never hear of "carbohydrate deficiency" in a dog quite simply because there is no NEED for carbohydrates in a dogs diet. FEEDING THE RACING GREYHOUND Your aim in feeding greyhounds is to provide a balanced diet that maintains them in good condition, and allows them to perform to their maximum potential on the racetrack. To achieve this aim you need to know what nutrients are contained in the different ingredients that make up a greyhound’s ration. A nutrient is something a greyhound needs to help it to grow, stay alive and work, as nutrients provides greyhounds with energy. There are six nutrient groups that are needed in a greyhound’s daily ration: 1.Water 2.Protein (amino acids 3.Carbohydrates/Fiber 4.Fat 5.Vitamin 6.Minerals And that comes from where and is based on what. From that list ALL dogs need 1,2,4,5,6, and no, they do not need fibre either. If you feel your dog needs carbohydrates then the dog is overworked and/or it is not getting enough proteins and fats http://www.gra-america.org/buy_a_dog/racing_career/career2.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 in answer to your question -- a little bit of pasta added to your dogs diet a couple of times a week wont do it any harm.. But will it do it any good either?? atb stabba That will depend if they get an alternate carb source and if not then of course it will do good as it will supply a direct form of glucose so the dog doesn't need to reprocess fat into glucose which would be less efficient. Its all about balence. If you want to feed your dog pasta that is up to you but I will repeat again, a dog does not NEED carbs/pasta. Dogs can quite adequately manage to produce glucose from fats and proteins. You will never hear of "carbohydrate deficiency" in a dog quite simply because there is no NEED for carbohydrates in a dogs diet. FEEDING THE RACING GREYHOUND Your aim in feeding greyhounds is to provide a balanced diet that maintains them in good condition, and allows them to perform to their maximum potential on the racetrack. To achieve this aim you need to know what nutrients are contained in the different ingredients that make up a greyhound’s ration. A nutrient is something a greyhound needs to help it to grow, stay alive and work, as nutrients provides greyhounds with energy. There are six nutrient groups that are needed in a greyhound’s daily ration: 1.Water 2.Protein (amino acids 3.Carbohydrates/Fiber 4.Fat 5.Vitamin 6.Minerals And that comes from where and is based on what. From that list ALL dogs need 1,2,4,5,6, and no, they do not need fibre either. If you feel your dog needs carbohydrates then the dog is overworked and/or it is not getting enough proteins and fats http://www.gra-america.org/buy_a_dog/racing_career/career2.html Which quotes "Carbohydrates not only supply the energy required for running" so therefore without carbs dogs cannot run DOH. Sandymere, without trying to bore everyone, quite simply do you believe that there is such a thing as carbohydrate deficiency in dogs? I will also point out that if you believe in feeding carbs to your dogs and are already giving a "complete" food which are normally very high in carbs, why would they actually need even more carbs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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