jazz_11 5 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 right lads enough is enough im going to fill in my fac application some say go for it some say dont... if i get it i get it if i dont i havent lost anything and they wont/hope not withdraw my sgc right good bits in a shooting club so could be tuitioned land i shoot on personally is fac approved genuine reason espcially for the 17 is for fox control as the farmer does have sheep got a sgc bad points only had sgc for 1 year theres a few guys who shoot on my land not sure how many will clear this up am 17 weighing up the pro's and cons i cant see it being a problem im going to put in for a 22lr and a 17hm 22 for rabbits and hmr for "opportunist foxes" and long range rabbits and vermin what you guys recon,? cheers Quote Link to post
Treacle Trackpad 6 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 right lads enough is enough im going to fill in my fac application some say go for it some say dont... if i get it i get it if i dont i havent lost anything and they wont/hope not withdraw my sgc right good bits in a shooting club so could be tuitioned land i shoot on personally is fac approved genuine reason espcially for the 17 is for fox control as the farmer does have sheep got a sgc bad points only had sgc for 1 year theres a few guys who shoot on my land not sure how many will clear this up am 17 weighing up the pro's and cons i cant see it being a problem im going to put in for a 22lr and a 17hm 22 for rabbits and hmr for "opportunist foxes" and long range rabbits and vermin what you guys recon,? cheers Just my opinion, and others will have a different one I am sure, but .17HMR is not a fox calibre, opportunist or not, but is most certainly capable of your long range rabbit requirements. Your SGC will not be revoked in light of an unsuccessful FAC application unless you are a naughty boy and get found out . Quote Link to post
foxshooter69 6 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 just have the .17hmr good for long range rabbits, and fox out to 100yards. cheers mark Quote Link to post
Leicester hunter 0 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 as the guys above have said. Plus, you obviously need written permission from the landowner on the passed land. As far as im remember, my FEO said it doesnt matter how many shoot on the passed land(within reason) Also having SGC only 1 yr is no problem whatsoever, i would say its an advantage as you have already had some background checks etc. Again, DONT reccommend 17 for fox, but long range rabbit. good luck Quote Link to post
garyw 0 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 the sticking points may be .17hmr if thats what you request and your age 17 with no experience with firearms-just mt 2 bobs worth.good luck all the same Quote Link to post
LordGamebore 0 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Go for it! Quote Link to post
wboulter 3 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 there should be no prop`s you having a fac your half way there if you have a sgs as long as you got ground and it is suitable but they wont grant the 17 hmr for fox but they will grant it for rabbit / vermin control Quote Link to post
jazz_11 5 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 i have shot a 22rimy which is a guys which i go shooting with so i could say he will mentor me, i understand all about the written permision, when i applied for my sgc i got the farmer to sing a letter for me which i gave to the feo when he came round he was very pleased with it.. so do u think it will be granted and if a 17 is not for fox, what will be suitable a 22 hornet? and whats the chaces of it being given a first application and my age Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 right lads enough is enough im going to fill in my fac application some say go for it some say dont... if i get it i get it if i dont i havent lost anything and they wont/hope not withdraw my sgc right good bits in a shooting club so could be tuitioned land i shoot on personally is fac approved genuine reason espcially for the 17 is for fox control as the farmer does have sheep got a sgc bad points only had sgc for 1 year theres a few guys who shoot on my land not sure how many will clear this up am 17 weighing up the pro's and cons i cant see it being a problem im going to put in for a 22lr and a 17hm 22 for rabbits and hmr for "opportunist foxes" and long range rabbits and vermin what you guys recon,? cheers Did I miss something, what are you concerned about??? It is true to say that rimfires and fox are not best liked in some regions, but this debate has raged forever, all my rimfires are conditioned for fox!! Quote Link to post
jazz_11 5 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 what so a 22 rimmy would be capable of taking a fox, i wouldnt be up for that as i wouldnt have confidence in my shooting capability... if a 22 is ok for fox surely a 17 is and if not would i be able to get a 22centr fire on my first application and are they ok for foxes thanks Quote Link to post
Colster 1 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 what so a 22 rimmy would be capable of taking a fox, i wouldnt be up for that as i wouldnt have confidence in my shooting capability... if a 22 is ok for fox surely a 17 is and if not would i be able to get a 22centr fire on my first application and are they ok for foxes thanks You'd need to check with your own area FLO, some will consider HMR a suitable fox calibre but many don't. Personally I'd consider HMR "more" suitable than LR but that's just my opinion but in reality both will do the job if the shooter does his. Fox is a good reason for a centrefire application (I'm assuming you're thinking .22CF), then as to which centrefire... ah well that's a subject all of it's own. I'd probably go for .223 or .22-250 because then I'd have the possibility of the smaller deer species then too. Quote Link to post
JonathanL 4 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Go for it! Agreed. You may or may not get .17 rim-fire for foxes but it isn't going to get your SGC pulled if they don't issue an FAC. In fact, having the former will work in your favour as the only reason they could come up with for refusing an FAC would be that you didn't have "good reason" for the particular firearms you wanted to acquire; the only other ones relate to not being fit to be entrusted with a firearm and if that were the case you wouldn't have been granted an SGC to start with! J. Quote Link to post
JonathanL 4 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 i have shot a 22rimy which is a guys which i go shooting with so i could say he will mentor me, i understand all about the written permision, when i applied for my sgc i got the farmer to sing a letter for me which i gave to the feo when he came round he was very pleased with it.. so do u think it will be granted and if a 17 is not for fox, what will be suitable a 22 hornet? and whats the chaces of it being given a first application and my age Cracking little round .22 Hornet. Actually a good one to get for foxes as its reloadable so you can learn that too. It hasn't been too popular in recent years so quite a few good deals on them about - although popularity seems to be picking up recently. J. Quote Link to post
danebrewer10 6 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 i don't see any problem with this, if it is purely for fox, then go for something bogger, say .223 rem, the .17 will probably not be granted solely for fox as for shooting foxes with the HMR, i have body shot close range (young)foxes to 40yd, and I would head shoot foxes to 70-80m, but only under ideal (ie no wind + solid rest ) conditions as there is very little room for error with this calibre Cheers DB Quote Link to post
salukiwhippet 6 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 IMHO, HMR is not a fox calibre, especially for someone who is still learning to shoot. Definitely go for .22lr, and think about either .22WMR or .22 hornet for fox, preferably hornet. James Quote Link to post
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