Mick C. 229 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 i think blucher is refering to NIGHT TIME longnetting, most of us that ferret have dogs that will work with a long nett in the day surrounding a warren. but nightime pegging and using a dog is a hole diffrent ballgame Now your talking Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I would love to see a lurcher that would work nets at night. Quote Link to post
sh 08 17 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 i agree that has got to take a brainy dog and alot of trust, would the said lurcher be any good for lamping though as they are trained to chase and not catch. just a question? Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 A banting line is an excellent way of driving rabbits into a net at night' but iwould think a well trained dog would be invaluable on fields which contain gorse,bramble,nettle and doc stalks.A credit to the owners training ability to. They tell me it's an ideal task for an old dog as the rabbits do not need to be caught .It is only necessary to drive the rabbits towards the net. Im very tempted to give it a try as most of the ground i hunt is quite rough. Any advice from people who use this method would speed the training process up know end.PM me if you can help. MUCH APPRECIATED Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 i agree that has got to take a brainy dog and alot of trust, would the said lurcher be any good for lamping though as they are trained to chase and not catch. just a question? I would imagine it would have to be trained for the purpose of netting and nothing else until the technique is fully mastered. Quote Link to post
sh 08 17 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 yes thats what i mean to break a lurchers instinct to pick up the rabbit Quote Link to post
micky 3,325 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I would love to see a lurcher that would work nets at night. those dogs in the lamping competition would do allright,they would drive them straight into the nets ,no fear of one of them disgracing its self by catching owt Quote Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I would love to see a lurcher that would work nets at night. Me too.......The old boys i used to long net with at night in the 60's all had whippets or whippet hybrids but only ever used them in the daytime for rabbits. They would never dream of taking them long netting at night. No doubt these dogs have existed.........but i would love to see one work. Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 yes thats what i mean to break a lurchers instinct to pick up the rabbit Excuse the pun but i am abit in the dark as to what is required myself. Ican only asume that an intelligent dog would understand what was required of him on a night on the net or on the lamp.As to the training reigime thats a whole new ball game Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I remember an old boy who lived in a village called tickhill nr doncaster telling me years ago about a dog they used for the task a mongrel collie by all acounts but he had to be kept on a leash wile the nets were set incase he dashed of into the dark before the set was pegged.atb dell Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I remember an old boy who lived in a village called tickhill nr doncaster telling me years ago about a dog they used for the task a mongrel collie by all acounts but he had to be kept on a leash wile the nets were set incase he dashed of into the dark before the set was pegged.atb dell Yes iwould imagine this method would be full of pitfalls.For instance say you dropped a hundred yards of net in a large field whats to stop the dog hunting up the rabbits in a part of the field where the net is not situated. Regarding dogs this must be the only method of catching rabbits where a slow dog is an asset.I would think that any breed or cross breed of dog would do as long as it had a good nose and a high ammount of intelligence Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 the art of long netting in the dark is all about getting the net set up quickly and quietly,a dog can be a pain in the arse and is not really a must,once set the aim is to make the rabbits head for home,we simply get the other side of the field by going round the edge,spread a line and drag the field towards the net,a dog at this point would be a nightmare,getting tangled or knocking the net over,I've tried a couple of types of dogs working the field with no success really,you've got to get the wind dead right and fields where they are buried in all around are no good as they will make off in any direction,railway embankments and roads have given me decent numbers in the past,its not something I really do now myself,like rolfe I mainly use long nets,stop nets off the edge and two tradionally bred lurchers for ferretting in the day at least twice a week,I don't even use many purse nets these days,its easier to longnet the whole hedge or warren,your dogs do have to be obedient, disciplined and patient or they will keep knocking your nets over or get tangled up,these slip and kill crosses are to full on for my type of hunting,I like a dog I can send out to work a field and use its head a bit,having permission to be there makes a big difference on how we work our dogs,its not a quick stop,slip and kill,then gone,we have the time to get the best out of our chosen dogs!! Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I remember an old boy who lived in a village called tickhill nr doncaster telling me years ago about a dog they used for the task a mongrel collie by all acounts but he had to be kept on a leash wile the nets were set incase he dashed of into the dark before the set was pegged.atb dell Yes iwould imagine this method would be full of pitfalls.For instance say you dropped a hundred yards of net in a large field whats to stop the dog hunting up the rabbits in a part of the field where the net is not situated. Regarding dogs this must be the only method of catching rabbits where a slow dog is an asset.I would think that any breed or cross breed of dog would do as long as it had a good nose and a high ammount of intelligence My honest opinion on the subject due to members of my family in the past [pre mixy]being involved in the great game [poaching]and lads i knocked about with in the past who were keen peggers .The use of lurchers to assist in night time longnetting poaching expeditions was another fairy tale concocted by that well known book writer makeing out his preferd cross excelled at the task.Its only my opinion as i would think the cons would far out weigh the pros for sutch a task a bit like the lit lantern atached to a dogs collar so it could pick ground roosting game birds up.atvb dell Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I think you might have a valid point there it does seem quite a romantic idea .No one has sent a reply that begs to differ. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 who said you need a lurcher to work a net j darcy ,the reverse three qaurter colie type would work a net ,reverse three qaurter spaniel with a touch of greyhound , and marc c glenns little beardie worked the net ,i dont think alot of use have trained a dog to a high standard ,it can be done ,but you need dogs who work naturaly in a circle ,and a man to control them , you dont need a a lurcher anything thats soft natured but with a good nose , but in this day and age people like brite lights for hunting lol, it can be done ,with modern shock collars trainig etc i think it can be done,not my seen,but you can train a dog to worked back to you ,but needs to have natural hunting in it ,i used to chuck luke and lana out the jeep they would qaurter a feild no hare come back to me now lana not but luke you could had harned him into not ouching game in net he done it with purse nets easy and as a pup very soft, unles it bit him then was wild,you just cant let them mouth game ,only put it up and that would be his only job Quote Link to post
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