Do dogs need bull in them to make the grade on fox these days?

[goldfinch2007 2,332]

theres some good collie crosses out there.its all about how much heart a dog has.a pal of mine years ago had a whippet used to take them regulary.she took a bit of stick but it did nt faze her

[mossyh07 64]

Two best single handed fox dogs i've seen were 1st cross wheaton/hounds

[wirral countryman 2,110]

the simple answer to that one is NO,they don't need it at all,pre-ban most traditionally bred dogs took them easilly,some took a little longer than others to get the knack of gripping the right end but once they reallised that they don't get bit by grabbing the head/neck area it was easy,this was all pre-ban though of course

[Malt 379]

Simple answer, no.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

I think there are some good replies to your question here. Id like to add one more point, and that is that the greyhound side of most lurcher mixes is often overlooked, and the attributes in the lurcher are almost always given to the other breed(s). In my experience greyhounds are often very keen and quite game dogs in their own right.

 

Yes sir, the right ones are for sure. As a boy growin up my daddy raised what we called field trial greyhounds. We raced them in a sort of over the river and through the woods type racing track where a scent track was layed. They basically greyhoundxcoonhound type dogs of various different percentages. Alot of the coonhound type dogs were not exactly game or gritty at all on critters but man once the greyhound was splashed into them, you turned them into very intense killers of all game.

[Guest 2GOOD]

I think there are some good replies to your question here. Id like to add one more point, and that is that the greyhound side of most lurcher mixes is often overlooked, and the attributes in the lurcher are almost always given to the other breed(s). In my experience greyhounds are often very keen and quite game dogs in their own right.

 

Yes sir, the right ones are for sure. As a boy growin up my daddy raised what we called field trial greyhounds. We raced them in a sort of over the river and through the woods type racing track where a scent track was layed. They basically greyhoundxcoonhound type dogs of various different percentages. Alot of the coonhound type dogs were not exactly game or gritty at all on critters but man once the greyhound was splashed into them, you turned them into very intense killers of all game.

dan ,have you got a pic of a pure coon hound ,is it pure or a x that was bred for the job ,

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Ya, I got lots o pics of pure coonhounds. The crossbred ones were the ones we raced. There was first and second line and then also first and second tree which meant barkin up at the coon in a cage up in a tree once they were inside this circle around the tree.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Just called the old man, he is gonna bring in some old photo albums.

[scent 509]

plenty of collie x will do fox single handed on a regular basis

[shaunpauls7 131]

no they dont mate a mate of mine has a 3/4grey 1/4 collie that takes them single handed aswell as deer and hare greay daytime dog all pre bad ovcourse

[Guest 2GOOD]

Just called the old man, he is gonna bring in some old photo albums.

look forward to seeing them ,my vision of a coon hound is one i seen in a film called WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS ,they were a bit like a red colourd ,english pointer ,but shorter in the leg Edited February 23, 2010 by 2GOOD

[stroller 341]

i can vouch for top lampers dog, pre ban obviously

[hedz31 1,308]

ive always had bullxs or wheatenxs or a mix of both,but ive seen loads of other crosses take fox single handed on a regular basis deerhound/greyhound cross ,collie cross,bedlington/greyhound cross as i say ive always had bull or wheaten cross dogs but in truth the best single handed fox dog i ever saw was a deerhound/collie/greyhound hybred some years back it was a complete animal on them it would take them day ,night would draw them from any tight spot and its sister was very similar and so was its mother

Regards hedz

[inan 841]

I hav'nt seen a dog without bull in make the single handed grade in years have you?

 

Seen most crossbreeds tackle foxes over the years,...but few had the intensity or capability of the Bull bloods ....

 

I used to kill them,.. if the landowner or keeper was nearby,..and demanded them gone,..but nowadays,..my business is purely rabbiting,..things are different,..and there is no profit in messing around with a stinky vulpine....

 

All the best,.CHALKWARREN....

 

CW,is that a deerhound x in your photo,if it is, was it called LUCY?

Sorry posted this without reading further down ,it is Lucy she won Lambourn I beleive.

Edited February 23, 2010 by inan

[Guest 2GOOD]

i can vouch for top lampers dog, pre ban obviously

i can vouch ,that the 60 or 70 i have seen work were crap ,except for 3 .