BIG NAMES

[FightTheBan 1,147]

"How do you know that!!?? Think about it.......... "

 

I would far rather go with a dog i had seen in the flesh and working.

The internet and books make heros out of mediocre dogs...dont forget it.

FTB

[Guest busterdog]

"i hve a chocolate patterdale dog type dosent matter. he is a good 1 and im looking 2 buy a working chocolate bitch 2 put him over where would u suggest i start looking "

 

Try Epupz.

 

We may of had our differences FTB but I've got too give it to you mate you're QUALITY..

[jack crowley 5]

"How do you know that!!?? Think about it.......... "

 

I would far rather go with a dog i had seen in the flesh and working.

The internet and books make heros out of mediocre dogs...dont forget it.

FTB

EXACTLY WITH YA ON THAT ONE

[stormyboy 1,352]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

 

How do you know that!!?? Think about it..........

you believe everything you read do ya?

 

 

 

Its gospel. I think you missed my point. again!

[top terrierman 90]

dealers use big names to try sell pups.i am lucky enough to have dug with one or two well known terrier men but they didnt go looking for the limelight like some do they were well known throw their dogs and the standard they kept them over the years.and when they breed a litter of pups they wont be for sale to anyone with a big bank account.and thats why they have what they have today because they kept it right and money didnt come into it the love of terrier work did.you need to know the histroy behind what you have to keep it right.

[clinker 0]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

 

How do you know that!!?? Think about it..........

you believe everything you read do ya?

 

 

 

Its gospel. I think you missed my point. again!

what are you on about mate? spit it the fuk

[wexford Pa 84]

dealers use big names to try sell pups.i am lucky enough to have dug with one or two well known terrier men but they didnt go looking for the limelight like some do they were well known throw their dogs and the standard they kept them over the years.and when they breed a litter of pups they wont be for sale to anyone with a big bank account.and thats why they have what they have today because they kept it right and money didnt come into it the love of terrier work did.you need to know the histroy behind what you have to keep it right.

exactly TT.. Thats what ive been sayin tru the whole thread.. :gunsmile:

.... Pa

[stormyboy 1,352]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

 

How do you know that!!?? Think about it..........

you believe everything you read do ya?

 

 

 

Its gospel. I think you missed my point. again!

what are you on about mate? spit it the fuk

 

 

Never mind mate-the irony of your statement went over your head.

[oohmydog 82]

worker to worker is the best name

i agree mate. And for me finally getting to a point with a little help from some of the older big names producing some steady away old fashioned terriers. Not the show types. Not that there is anything wrong with that, i just cant seem to get that mix right. Not that im worried about looks

20 odd years ago you went to look at a litter of terrier pups checked the teeth and feet and bought one because of the parents and what you had seen them do or been told .the breeding in some dogs these days is gross (interbred to the extent that deformities in the litters are regular some of which are not visible .i think thats when the dreaded pound as taken over i dont and im sure that a lot of lads dont rely understand the genes in mammals

[francolin 449]

worker to worker is the best name

i agree mate. And for me finally getting to a point with a little help from some of the older big names producing some steady away old fashioned terriers. Not the show types. Not that there is anything wrong with that, i just cant seem to get that mix right. Not that im worried about looks

20 odd years ago you went to look at a litter of terrier pups checked the teeth and feet and bought one because of the parents and what you had seen them do or been told .the breeding in some dogs these days is gross (interbred to the extent that deformities in the litters are regular some of which are not visible .i think thats when the dreaded pound as taken over i dont and im sure that a lot of lads dont rely understand the genes in mammals

what defects have you come across and how close interbred is too close in your opinion ,are you commenting from your own findings out of interest .

[stormyboy 1,352]

worker to worker is the best name

i agree mate. And for me finally getting to a point with a little help from some of the older big names producing some steady away old fashioned terriers. Not the show types. Not that there is anything wrong with that, i just cant seem to get that mix right. Not that im worried about looks

20 odd years ago you went to look at a litter of terrier pups checked the teeth and feet and bought one because of the parents and what you had seen them do or been told .the breeding in some dogs these days is gross (interbred to the extent that deformities in the litters are regular some of which are not visible .i think thats when the dreaded pound as taken over i dont and im sure that a lot of lads dont rely understand the genes in mammals

 

 

 

Understatement! Ive heard one sage state-"Genes have got nowt to do with breeding workin dogs"!!! :headshot::

[madgerboy 11]

That post is the biggest load of crap I ve ever read."interbred to the extent that deformities are common"then the punch line,"some of which aren t visible"?the greatest deformity in an "earthdog"is the inability to work to ground.it's the lack of family or line breeding of dogs of a high standard that is the main reason for the lack of "good dogs".worker to worker within a family is the way to maintain terriers,in the truest sense of the word.If the good genes contained within the good dogs where saturated by family breeding we would nt be gambling and hoping for 1 worker out of every litter.what made the apbt what it is or was?a good understanding of genes and family traits and breeding from "producers".the big names?say what you want are big names because they had/have the know how to PRODUCE workers in high percentages.saturation of good blood and an understanding of genetics and working terriers is the way forward.if some want to make big money that's their choice,as long as they re puttingworkers on the ground.

Makes me wonder whether some are concerned about "big names"or are they jealous that some are more well known than them and know how to make a few pound while doing it?Lol

[clinker 0]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

 

How do you know that!!?? Think about it..........

you believe everything you read do ya?

 

 

 

Its gospel. I think you missed my point. again!

what are you on about mate? spit it the fuk

 

 

Never mind mate-the irony of your statement went over your head.

yeah mate,dont be afraid to speak your mind ,no need for the vague puzzel texts, the word misinterpretation comes to mind

[MISTY 11]

That post is the biggest load of crap I ve ever read."interbred to the extent that deformities are common"then the punch line,"some of which aren t visible"?the greatest deformity in an "earthdog"is the inability to work to ground.it's the lack of family or line breeding of dogs of a high standard that is the main reason for the lack of "good dogs".worker to worker within a family is the way to maintain terriers,in the truest sense of the word.If the good genes contained within the good dogs where saturated by family breeding we would nt be gambling and hoping for 1 worker out of every litter.what made the apbt what it is or was?a good understanding of genes and family traits and breeding from "producers".the big names?say what you want are big names because they had/have the know how to PRODUCE workers in high percentages.saturation of good blood and an understanding of genetics and working terriers is the way forward.if some want to make big money that's their choice,as long as they re puttingworkers on the ground.

Makes me wonder whether some are concerned about "big names"or are they jealous that some are more well known than them and know how to make a few pound while doing it?Lol

[oohmydog 82]

worker to worker is the best name

i agree mate. And for me finally getting to a point with a little help from some of the older big names producing some steady away old fashioned terriers. Not the show types. Not that there is anything wrong with that, i just cant seem to get that mix right. Not that im worried about looks

20 odd years ago you went to look at a litter of terrier pups checked the teeth and feet and bought one because of the parents and what you had seen them do or been told .the breeding in some dogs these days is gross (interbred to the extent that deformities in the litters are regular some of which are not visible .i think thats when the dreaded pound as taken over i dont and im sure that a lot of lads dont rely understand the genes in mammals

what defects have you come across and how close interbred is too close in your opinion ,are you commenting from your own findings out of interest .

mouth defects ,(weak teeth undershot early blindness and mental)this is only my opinion when you put father to daughter grandfather to granddaughter you are doing it to keep the colour ,confirmation or size for showing and its a slippery slope ,you see working terriers so undershot if you took them out in the rain they would drown ,some call it bullmouthed i dont buy that any terrier as only one thing it can defend it self with ,there its teeth ,bring your bottom set of teeth forward of your top set and try and bite say a broom handle and get a grip ,i just think its a breeding defect