BIG NAMES

[brendy73 12]

"i hve a chocolate patterdale dog type dosent matter. he is a good 1 and im looking 2 buy a working chocolate bitch 2 put him over where would u suggest i start looking "

 

Try Epupz.

[brendy73 12]

ah [bANNED TEXT] hve tried tere and a load of others places only pups nothing working musn't exist

[FightTheBan 1,147]

I was only taking the piss mate, e pups and the likes are breeding grounds for peddlers and arseholes.

TBH you dont want anything off the internet, nothing but shit.

Try and look into your dogs past breeding and look for a bitch out the same lines.

[MISTY 11]

i agree pa. i dont like them to close but still in the same family. And like you if you have a flaw try iron it out. If you have to use an out cross,do a little research about its back ground, and if the cap fits. Id like to think i have some half decent stuff on, and hounestly if i produce 2 good working dogs out of that litter ive done well anything more is a bounus. And anyone that says every ones a winner in their litter is a born face liar. sorry if that offends anyone

Even if you cull hard and aint in it for the money it is still not easy to keep a line right ,saying that everyone idea of a worker is different ,one mans culled earth dog may well be someone elses world beater .If it wasnt for BIG NAMES most would not be able to keep aline going as most lines are based on dogs from big names directly or indirectly .Id suggest with outcross blood that you should 100 per cent sure that you know everything that there is to know about the line and dogs you wish to use ,outcross blood has been many a mans downfall .

[jack crowley 5]

dont get me wrong iv noting against the dogs its the people that are obsessed about the name and even if they dont work they will keep it and breed from it just because it was out of such and such a dog.

[MISTY 11]

dont get me wrong iv noting against the dogs its the people that are obsessed about the name and even if they dont work they will keep it and breed from it just because it was out of such and such a dog.

The bottom line is most people are in this game for the ££££££££££££££££,and fools and there money are easily parted .

I know of at least 3 litters of pups that have been sold on using pedegrees of others peoples dogs ,the cxnt that sold them never even see the dogs he named on the peds ,and if hes watching this i will be having a few words with you soon .

[wexford Pa 84]

dont get me wrong iv noting against the dogs its the people that are obsessed about the name and even if they dont work they will keep it and breed from it just because it was out of such and such a dog.

I see what ya mean now Jack but these lads are just foolin themselves n whoever the pups go to... in sayin that there is dogs that can be good producers and can produce some pups greater than themselves but these were workers already not falures to work.. But as i said before its the lads that buy or acqire pups from 'big name' terriermen that make the money not the man with the 'big name'.. Most of these men prefer to let there pups go to honest workin homes above what they can earn from a pup..

But sayin that there is lads out there with big reputations that they dont deserve..

......Pa

[clinker 0]

worker to worker is good for the short term but u need to be sure that ur breeding bred worker to a bred worker, u may have flaws in either of the lines that u may not be aware of.. im certainly not sayin worker to worker wont produce workers, what im sayin is that if u do not know a bit about the breedin ur reducin ur chances of success in the long term.

.... Pa

worker ta worker is good enough,since when did terrier men become bleedin historians? ya get shite in every thing no mater how far ya go back, been readin to many book mate

[wexford Pa 84]

worker to worker is good for the short term but u need to be sure that ur breeding bred worker to a bred worker, u may have flaws in either of the lines that u may not be aware of.. im certainly not sayin worker to worker wont produce workers, what im sayin is that if u do not know a bit about the breedin ur reducin ur chances of success in the long term.

.... Pa

worker ta worker is good enough,since when did terrier men become bleedin historians? ya get shite in every thing no mater how far ya go back, been readin to many book mate

i dont need to read books MATE, u cant gain experience from a book!!!

i never once said worker to worker wasnt good enough.. and true you do get shite in everything but if u read the posts properly i said that u can reduce the chances of failure by knowin a bit about the breed..

.....Pa

[clinker 0]

worker to worker is good for the short term but u need to be sure that ur breeding bred worker to a bred worker, u may have flaws in either of the lines that u may not be aware of.. im certainly not sayin worker to worker wont produce workers, what im sayin is that if u do not know a bit about the breedin ur reducin ur chances of success in the long term.

.... Pa

worker ta worker is good enough,since when did terrier men become bleedin historians? ya get shite in every thing no mater how far ya go back, been readin to many book mate

i dont need to read books MATE, u cant gain experience from a book!!!

i never once said worker to worker wasnt good enough.. and true you do get shite in everything but if u read the posts properly i said that u can reduce the chances of failure by knowin a bit about the breed..

.....Pa

you can only trace it back so far MATE

[lakeman 12]

I know a fella from across the border who's not so much of a 'big name' as a well respected terrierman....

He says that if he get 20-25% success from his dogs that's good going.

That said he expects his dogs to be a cut above the rest

[manspade 3]

worker to worker is good for the short term but u need to be sure that ur breeding bred worker to a bred worker, u may have flaws in either of the lines that u may not be aware of.. im certainly not sayin worker to worker wont produce workers, what im sayin is that if u do not know a bit about the breedin ur reducin ur chances of success in the long term.

.... Pa

i agree pa. i dont like them to close but still in the same family. And like you if you have a flaw try iron it out. If you have to use an out cross,do a little research about its back ground, and if the cap fits. Id like to think i have some half decent stuff on, and hounestly if i produce 2 good working dogs out of that litter ive done well anything more is a bounus. And anyone that says every ones a winner in their litter is a born face liar. sorry if that offends anyone

Stop on manspade.. an honest terriermans a true terrierman.. id be honest ive culled as many as ive kept, but i know when i have 1 thats not makin the grade n im honest with myself and others about my dogs.. One word u used there is 'research', u cant do that if u dont even know a bit about your own dogs breeding.. cheers for your input manspade..

....Pa

im farely lucky that way mate i no all my breeding and can go back some way now. And im also my biggest criteak. I Would also like to think i have enough experience now to no when its time for one to go without some one else having to tell me. Keep up the good work mate,you are obviously some one with alot of knowledge, nice to hear,

[stormyboy 1,352]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

 

How do you know that!!?? Think about it..........

[clinker 0]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

 

How do you know that!!?? Think about it..........

you believe everything you read do ya?

[wexford Pa 84]

exactly!