BIG NAMES

[jack crowley 5]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

[clinker 0]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

[manspade 3]

in all fareness mate the people with the so called big names didnt go looking for them. Or certainly some of the ones that i no didn't. They were given to them by others in the so called working field. But if its a name you have been given because of your dogs abilitys in the working field could that not be seen as an achivement? Trying to breed the perfect working terrier is some thing we all try to achieve as working terrier men is it not? also in defence of some of the big named terrier men.Its not they who make money from their dogs, its the people who claim to have thier breeding( that is the big name breed)in thier own breeding.You must have seen this time and time again. This reply is not ment to be a creep round the big name terrier men or having a pop at you, its just a little some thing to think about.But them lads are guenuine lads who are dedcated to what they do,and hopefully you are to. And maybe they'll be talking about you one day weather you like it or not.Did the big names even want their so called big names i expect not. Theres a thought for you!

[Waz 4,252]

Most of the names probably earnt them by what they were doing & what they were producing. Wonder if any of them capitalised on this????????

 

The ones that should be given the most respect are the ones that didnt. (my opinion )

Edited February 22, 2010 by GD Waz

[wexford Pa 84]

I know good honest lads who keep dogs from 'big names' as you put it that dont keep them terriers for money but they can trace their breedin history back for generations, and they can breed their dogs n know whats in the breedin and this reduces ur chances of breedin failures.. Somethin that alot of lads breedin terriers over-look, u may have a good terrier but there may be bad blood in the line which when u breed from will show in the pups and this is a big reason why there is so much dirt out there.. Ive got a terrier pup here wit generations of breeding behind him that i can trace back cos i got him off a lad wit 'big names' that keeps track of his dogs breeding and my pup didnt cost a packet..

My point anyway is its the lads who acquire these dogs n use their name to sell pups off it is the one makin the money not the initial big name breeder.. And u may have a good terrier as good as any of these dogs wit 'big names' in their breed but ur chances of carryin on his or her breed are very slim cos u dont know its breed..

All the best..

... Pa

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Those names we refer to ,and no need for lists ,are in the main geuine blokes.They have all done their bit for the working terrier .What happens is that those not capable of breeding anything good themselves try to find instant success by BUYING something which has the potential to be great .I know of none alive today that set out to breed a terrier with their name attached to it .Lads finding a particular mans breeding to their liking have attached the surname as a recognition of this fact .

Lads with no other selling point than its breeding will use this to get rid of stuff and lets face it ,thats what they are doing .A good dog by good parents needs nothing attached to find a home .I no longer need to visit strangers for a pup but when i did, nothing bored me more than a lengthy talk on what was supposed to be in the make up,name dropping and such .

The sooner we have a return to old values in this game the better and by that i mean culling surpus and giving pups to a well trusted mate and breed only for replacements not money .Money is what is f*****g this game up ,why cant lads see it .

[goldfinch2007 2,332]

worker to worker is the best name

[manspade 3]

worker to worker is the best name

i agree mate. And for me finally getting to a point with a little help from some of the older big names producing some steady away old fashioned terriers. Not the show types. Not that there is anything wrong with that, i just cant seem to get that mix right. Not that im worried about looks

[shaunpauls7 131]

worker to worker is the best name

 

 

agreed with goldfinch

[fish 148]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE A DOG IS BRED OF SUCH AND SUCK A DOG IT GETS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IVE SEEN SOME HANDY DOGS BRED OUT OUT OF NO NAME AND I WOULD PUT ANY COULOUR OF MONEY THEY ;D BAIT ANY DOG OFF THE FIELD PEOPLR ARE TO MUCH GOT UP IN NAMES. NAMES DONT MEAN f**k ALL THERE JUST A MARK OR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE $$$$$

ah ya bud,i wouldnt take any notice of names,theres beter dogs goin around that no one nows about

your right there bud

[wexford Pa 84]

worker to worker is good for the short term but u need to be sure that ur breeding bred worker to a bred worker, u may have flaws in either of the lines that u may not be aware of.. im certainly not sayin worker to worker wont produce workers, what im sayin is that if u do not know a bit about the breedin ur reducin ur chances of success in the long term.

.... Pa

[brendy73 12]

ur right in [bANNED TEXT] ur saying but i hve a chocolate patterdale dog type dosent matter. he is a good 1 and im looking 2 buy a working chocolate bitch 2 put him over where would u suggest i start looking

[FightTheBan 1,147]

"i hve a chocolate patterdale dog type dosent matter. he is a good 1 and im looking 2 buy a working chocolate bitch 2 put him over where would u suggest i start looking "

 

Try Epupz.

[manspade 3]

worker to worker is good for the short term but u need to be sure that ur breeding bred worker to a bred worker, u may have flaws in either of the lines that u may not be aware of.. im certainly not sayin worker to worker wont produce workers, what im sayin is that if u do not know a bit about the breedin ur reducin ur chances of success in the long term.

.... Pa

i agree pa. i dont like them to close but still in the same family. And like you if you have a flaw try iron it out. If you have to use an out cross,do a little research about its back ground, and if the cap fits. Id like to think i have some half decent stuff on, and hounestly if i produce 2 good working dogs out of that litter ive done well anything more is a bounus. And anyone that says every ones a winner in their litter is a born face liar. sorry if that offends anyone

[wexford Pa 84]

worker to worker is good for the short term but u need to be sure that ur breeding bred worker to a bred worker, u may have flaws in either of the lines that u may not be aware of.. im certainly not sayin worker to worker wont produce workers, what im sayin is that if u do not know a bit about the breedin ur reducin ur chances of success in the long term.

.... Pa

i agree pa. i dont like them to close but still in the same family. And like you if you have a flaw try iron it out. If you have to use an out cross,do a little research about its back ground, and if the cap fits. Id like to think i have some half decent stuff on, and hounestly if i produce 2 good working dogs out of that litter ive done well anything more is a bounus. And anyone that says every ones a winner in their litter is a born face liar. sorry if that offends anyone

Stop on manspade.. an honest terriermans a true terrierman.. id be honest ive culled as many as ive kept, but i know when i have 1 thats not makin the grade n im honest with myself and others about my dogs.. One word u used there is 'research', u cant do that if u dont even know a bit about your own dogs breeding.. cheers for your input manspade..

....Pa