Bigshrimp 5 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Topper, sounds like you have your a kennel full Can someone tell me what this means.... A bit of translation issue on my part: What does "the lakies are the wind up merchants" mean Sh 08, what age is your bitch?? Is she an adult or pup? (edited: just saw your post in the beginning of this thread and pup is 6m old) 13" tts should be a nice size for earth work. Edited February 26, 2010 by Bigshrimp Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,915 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 the only fault these days mate a lot of people have had to breed lakies into there beddies and class them as beddies mate when they should be classed as cross breds.there isnt a lot of pure about that do get worked as alot of people just hve them as pets even the show type.but the best thing with the working type dont suffer from copper toxin loke the show ones do.thats why im waiting for a pup coming off the last of my breeding which was out of john dentings stuff which produced rambo which stewart slately had.and if i dont get it this yr the bitch will never be bred from again so fingers crossed.atb with getting a pup pal Quote Link to post
sh 08 17 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Topper, sounds like you have your a kennel full Can someone tell me what this means.... A bit of translation issue on my part: What does "the lakies are the wind up merchants" mean Sh 08, what age is your bitch?? Is she an adult or pup? (edited: just saw your post in the beginning of this thread and pup is 6m old) 13" tts should be a nice size for earth work. hopefully next season mate. we can see what she's got about her Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) the only fault these days mate a lot of people have had to breed lakies into there beddies and class them as beddies mate when they should be classed as cross breds.there isnt a lot of pure about that do get worked as alot of people just hve them as pets even the show type.but the best thing with the working type dont suffer from copper toxin loke the show ones do.thats why im waiting for a pup coming off the last of my breeding which was out of john dentings stuff which produced rambo which stewart slately had.and if i dont get it this yr the bitch will never be bred from again so fingers crossed.atb with getting a pup pal Working strains of Bedlington can and sometimes do suffer from copper toxicosis, though thankfully are usually in a different league constitution wise to the fluffy white imposters. Also, Rambo was a one off, a throw back, and Stuart actually bred many litters of hybrids. Edited February 26, 2010 by david2363 Quote Link to post
sh 08 17 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 my mate had the mother to rambo (myles) very ggod dog man i think Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,915 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 the only fault these days mate a lot of people have had to breed lakies into there beddies and class them as beddies mate when they should be classed as cross breds.there isnt a lot of pure about that do get worked as alot of people just hve them as pets even the show type.but the best thing with the working type dont suffer from copper toxin loke the show ones do.thats why im waiting for a pup coming off the last of my breeding which was out of john dentings stuff which produced rambo which stewart slately had.and if i dont get it this yr the bitch will never be bred from again so fingers crossed.atb with getting a pup pal Working strains of Bedlington can and sometimes do suffer from copper toxicosis, though thankfully are usually in a different league constitution wise to the fluffy white imposters. Also, Rambo was a one off, a throw back, and Stuart actually bred many litters of hybrids. maybe stuwart did breed from rambo [cross breeds]but john bred rambo mate not stewart.and mine were from rambos litter brother and rambos grandaughter and they grafted good if anything to hard,prety good for pure breeds i should think.but yes its rearly the working ones end up with copper toxicosis thats why they have a longer life span than the show stuff if you look at it.atb Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 the only fault these days mate a lot of people have had to breed lakies into there beddies and class them as beddies mate when they should be classed as cross breds.there isnt a lot of pure about that do get worked as alot of people just hve them as pets even the show type.but the best thing with the working type dont suffer from copper toxin loke the show ones do.thats why im waiting for a pup coming off the last of my breeding which was out of john dentings stuff which produced rambo which stewart slately had.and if i dont get it this yr the bitch will never be bred from again so fingers crossed.atb with getting a pup pal Working strains of Bedlington can and sometimes do suffer from copper toxicosis, though thankfully are usually in a different league constitution wise to the fluffy white imposters. Also, Rambo was a one off, a throw back, and Stuart actually bred many litters of hybrids. maybe stuwart did breed from rambo [cross breeds]but john bred rambo mate not stewart.and mine were from rambos litter brother and rambos grandaughter and they grafted good if anything to hard,prety good for pure breeds i should think.but yes its rearly the working ones end up with copper toxicosis thats why they have a longer life span than the show stuff if you look at it.atb I know exactly who bred Rambo, and what Stuart has bred from him. Very few people have working Beddies biopsied for CT, so the jury is out on that one. Working Bedlingtons do not have a longer lifespan than their show cousins - I know of show Beddies regularly reaching 17/18 years and one who was 21 when he popped his fluffy little clogs. Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,915 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 the only fault these days mate a lot of people have had to breed lakies into there beddies and class them as beddies mate when they should be classed as cross breds.there isnt a lot of pure about that do get worked as alot of people just hve them as pets even the show type.but the best thing with the working type dont suffer from copper toxin loke the show ones do.thats why im waiting for a pup coming off the last of my breeding which was out of john dentings stuff which produced rambo which stewart slately had.and if i dont get it this yr the bitch will never be bred from again so fingers crossed.atb with getting a pup pal Working strains of Bedlington can and sometimes do suffer from copper toxicosis, though thankfully are usually in a different league constitution wise to the fluffy white imposters. Also, Rambo was a one off, a throw back, and Stuart actually bred many litters of hybrids. maybe stuwart did breed from rambo [cross breeds]but john bred rambo mate not stewart.and mine were from rambos litter brother and rambos grandaughter and they grafted good if anything to hard,prety good for pure breeds i should think.but yes its rearly the working ones end up with copper toxicosis thats why they have a longer life span than the show stuff if you look at it.atb I know exactly who bred Rambo, and what Stuart has bred from him. Very few people have working Beddies biopsied for CT, so the jury is out on that one. Working Bedlingtons do not have a longer lifespan than their show cousins - I know of show Beddies regularly reaching 17/18 years and one who was 21 when he popped his fluffy little clogs. thats good for show stuff.but like everything else they cross breed beddies and say they have beddies when they should be saying they have beddiexs not beddies.ive judged shows my self and if they came in front of me in the beddie class my 1st words would be you are in the wrong class you want x breeds.but there isnt alot of people who work pure breds now but you always get the idiot saying worker to worker not kc crap.well if thats true why did my borders work very well and they were kc stuff.to me its what you put into a dog as you get worker to worker breeding crap to so why dont people give some pure breds a try instead of having to think they need to cross them.atb Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 the only fault these days mate a lot of people have had to breed lakies into there beddies and class them as beddies mate when they should be classed as cross breds.there isnt a lot of pure about that do get worked as alot of people just hve them as pets even the show type.but the best thing with the working type dont suffer from copper toxin loke the show ones do.thats why im waiting for a pup coming off the last of my breeding which was out of john dentings stuff which produced rambo which stewart slately had.and if i dont get it this yr the bitch will never be bred from again so fingers crossed.atb with getting a pup pal Working strains of Bedlington can and sometimes do suffer from copper toxicosis, though thankfully are usually in a different league constitution wise to the fluffy white imposters. Also, Rambo was a one off, a throw back, and Stuart actually bred many litters of hybrids. maybe stuwart did breed from rambo [cross breeds]but john bred rambo mate not stewart.and mine were from rambos litter brother and rambos grandaughter and they grafted good if anything to hard,prety good for pure breeds i should think.but yes its rearly the working ones end up with copper toxicosis thats why they have a longer life span than the show stuff if you look at it.atb I know exactly who bred Rambo, and what Stuart has bred from him. Very few people have working Beddies biopsied for CT, so the jury is out on that one. Working Bedlingtons do not have a longer lifespan than their show cousins - I know of show Beddies regularly reaching 17/18 years and one who was 21 when he popped his fluffy little clogs. thats good for show stuff.but like everything else they cross breed beddies and say they have beddies when they should be saying they have beddiexs not beddies.ive judged shows my self and if they came in front of me in the beddie class my 1st words would be you are in the wrong class you want x breeds.but there isnt alot of people who work pure breds now but you always get the idiot saying worker to worker not kc crap.well if thats true why did my borders work very well and they were kc stuff.to me its what you put into a dog as you get worker to worker breeding crap to so why dont people give some pure breds a try instead of having to think they need to cross them.atb Very doubtful that their is such a thing these days as a "pure bred Beddy" The show stuff certainly isn't, and there is much evidence to suggest that the working types aren't either. Don't get too hung up on the word "pure" mate, a fox in a hole doesn't give a shit if a dog has a piece of paper from the KC. Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,915 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 the only fault these days mate a lot of people have had to breed lakies into there beddies and class them as beddies mate when they should be classed as cross breds.there isnt a lot of pure about that do get worked as alot of people just hve them as pets even the show type.but the best thing with the working type dont suffer from copper toxin loke the show ones do.thats why im waiting for a pup coming off the last of my breeding which was out of john dentings stuff which produced rambo which stewart slately had.and if i dont get it this yr the bitch will never be bred from again so fingers crossed.atb with getting a pup pal Working strains of Bedlington can and sometimes do suffer from copper toxicosis, though thankfully are usually in a different league constitution wise to the fluffy white imposters. Also, Rambo was a one off, a throw back, and Stuart actually bred many litters of hybrids. maybe stuwart did breed from rambo [cross breeds]but john bred rambo mate not stewart.and mine were from rambos litter brother and rambos grandaughter and they grafted good if anything to hard,prety good for pure breeds i should think.but yes its rearly the working ones end up with copper toxicosis thats why they have a longer life span than the show stuff if you look at it.atb I know exactly who bred Rambo, and what Stuart has bred from him. Very few people have working Beddies biopsied for CT, so the jury is out on that one. Working Bedlingtons do not have a longer lifespan than their show cousins - I know of show Beddies regularly reaching 17/18 years and one who was 21 when he popped his fluffy little clogs. thats good for show stuff.but like everything else they cross breed beddies and say they have beddies when they should be saying they have beddiexs not beddies.ive judged shows my self and if they came in front of me in the beddie class my 1st words would be you are in the wrong class you want x breeds.but there isnt alot of people who work pure breds now but you always get the idiot saying worker to worker not kc crap.well if thats true why did my borders work very well and they were kc stuff.to me its what you put into a dog as you get worker to worker breeding crap to so why dont people give some pure breds a try instead of having to think they need to cross them.atb Very doubtful that their is such a thing these days as a "pure bred Beddy" The show stuff certainly isn't, and there is much evidence to suggest that the working types aren't either. Don't get too hung up on the word "pure" mate, a fox in a hole doesn't give a shit if a dog has a piece of paper from the KC. e no you are right mate that is for sure.but i would rather try to keep the breed pure than having to put lakie or pat on them just to try and keep them going Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 i hate to burst your bubble mate but there is no such thing as a PURE BEDLINGTON and as for CT the reason the working bedys doesn t get very often is because they carry hybrid blood , i been around bedlingtons for 50 years and have never know a bedy with lakie blood have ct but ive seen plenty of show/kc style have it and its not nice to say the least and as dave said we all know the lenghs the show set go to with there outcrosses to poodle and bichon etc and this was going on long before my time so i say there is no such thing as a pure bedlington, atb top Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,915 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 like i said mate ya problyright as when you see some beddies you can see the dandy in them and as a breed they never look the same Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 The dog in my avatar was a Beddy X Lakeland 1st cross. I've never seen a full Bedlington that I could honestly say was better than him. (I honestly wish I could). Out today with my "pure"? Beddy and my little Fell/Beddy hybrid. Found a couple of foxes in the rocks, bolted one. Quote Link to post
shepp 2,285 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I would'nt have any hangups on outcrossing working bedlingtons. This pure bred concept is a relatively modern one in dog history and has caused infinately more harm to dogs in general than anything else. Quote Link to post
reynard 3 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 hi mate this is my boy 19 month old cracking bushing dog ,works well with gun, i also lamp him bread from workers Hi there grand looking dog can you give me a bit of info on it, I am after one, rillington if I can get one. Quote Link to post
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