.222 v's 22.250 v's .223

[mattywhit 1]

.243 with silencer and 55grn Vshock pellets, then if you decide to do some deer just change ammo and re zero

 

 

dont listen to him. taking him out today with my .223 i know he want one because he just added it onto his ticket I think its all personal preference at the end of the day i was told .223 is brilliant round as its a 5.56 nato and there is a fantastic array of ammo available, with it being nato the bullets are made as small as possible and your chamber is made as big as possible this is to allow for grit and dirt for the lads on the front line so to make it a serious piece of weaponry money can be spent making these tolerances smaller and improving your rife, but at the end of the day if you drop a fox with .222 are you gonna stand back and say "hell wish i used a 22-250" ....................NO your gonna say "nice shot" unless you miss

[Deker 3,478]

.243 with silencer and 55grn Vshock pellets, then if you decide to do some deer just change ammo and re zero

 

 

dont listen to him. taking him out today with my .223 i know he want one because he just added it onto his ticket I think its all personal preference at the end of the day i was told .223 is brilliant round as its a 5.56 nato and there is a fantastic array of ammo available, with it being nato the bullets are made as small as possible and your chamber is made as big as possible this is to allow for grit and dirt for the lads on the front line so to make it a serious piece of weaponry money can be spent making these tolerances smaller and improving your rife, but at the end of the day if you drop a fox with .222 are you gonna stand back and say "hell wish i used a 22-250" ....................NO your gonna say "nice shot" unless you miss

 

Not quite sure what you are suggesting re 5.56 and .223 and I may well have misunderstood, but just a reminder for everyone......DO NOT PUT 5.56 THROUGH YOUR .223!!!

 

http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

[Guest dazzb]

like ive said i have .222 on my ticket allready but was just wandering if u should change it to .223 or 22.250, basicly for cost reasons as i know the .222 will do the job im asking of it, my ticket is up for renewal so im as well changing it now rather than later, please forget deer as im not interested in stalking.

thanks for the reply's some good info there cheers daz

[jamie g 17]

like ive said i have .222 on my ticket allready but was just wandering if u should change it to .223 or 22.250, basicly for cost reasons as i know the .222 will do the job im asking of it, my ticket is up for renewal so im as well changing it now rather than later, please forget deer as im not interested in stalking.

thanks for the reply's some good info there cheers daz

 

get the 22/250 mate its a great round. 3800 fps from factory winchester silver tip ammo accurate. and flat. point and aim. with 1 inch hight at 100 yards ive took foxes to 245 yards just aim dead on them.

 

if you have it 1 inch and 1/2 at 100 then 300 isnt much drop. just aim at the top of the foxes back.

 

at night in the dark range is hard to guess acurately. having high power and flat shooting really helps

Edited February 20, 2010 by jamie g

[Colster 1]

 

 

get the 22/250 mate its a great round. 3800 fps from factory winchester silver tip ammo accurate. and flat. point and aim. with 1 inch hight at 100 yards ive took foxes to 245 yards just aim dead on them.

 

if you have it 1 inch and 1/2 at 100 then 300 isnt much drop. just aim at the top of the foxes back.

 

at night in the dark range is hard to guess acurately. having high power and flat shooting really helps

 

Aren't they all pretty flat shooting? I was under the impression that all those calibres mentioned were all pretty flat shooting, particularly .204 but correct me if I'm wrong as I'm also considering the same thing as dazzb, although I would want it for small deer to so .204 would be out.

[jamie g 17]

 

 

get the 22/250 mate its a great round. 3800 fps from factory winchester silver tip ammo accurate. and flat. point and aim. with 1 inch hight at 100 yards ive took foxes to 245 yards just aim dead on them.

 

if you have it 1 inch and 1/2 at 100 then 300 isnt much drop. just aim at the top of the foxes back.

 

at night in the dark range is hard to guess acurately. having high power and flat shooting really helps

 

Aren't they all pretty flat shooting? I was under the impression that all those calibres mentioned were all pretty flat shooting, particularly .204 but correct me if I'm wrong as I'm also considering the same thing as dazzb, although I would want it for small deer to so .204 would be out.

 

yes there all flat shooting but after 230 yards the 22/250 is easier to judge the range imo. if you want the smaller deer then your going to have to forget the 204

[Mr_Logic 5]

Out to 200 yards, there's nothing between them. 250 is easy with 223, and around 300 with the 22-250. Personally 223 works unless you need the longer range - do you?!

[andyf 144]

just wandering what calibre you think is best for fox control, taking into account price of rifle and ammo,accuracy,range,noise ect using factory ammo. my license is up for renewal and i have .222 on it but sold it a while back but im looking to get another rifle and it will save me sending for a variation if i get it right 1st time, land and everything else is not an issue, just what rifle and ammo including calibre.

THANKS DAZ

I've had a .223 and 2 different 22.250's, no doubt and in my opinion, the 22.250 is the best by a mile.

It's at the upper end of CF .22's, with handloads in my Ruger No1 will shoot like a laser, without the

barrel burning extremes of 220 Swift or HOT 25.06.

Expect it to be very loud without a moderator (trust me it is), but otherwise it's a very tame calibre

with low recoil.

The only downside (if you reload) is that it gobbles cases, 3>4 reloads max before neck splits appear?

I don't load hot either 38Gr R15 on Nosler 55Gr Ballistics.

Anyway best of luck (Ruger No1 is the best choice).

AndyF

[Colster 1]

So if I understand this all correctly, there is little to choose between .222, .223 and .22-250 in terms of their noise (when moderated), the cost of factory ammo and it's availablity and their flat shooting trajectory apart from .22-250 will give you about another 50yards of "aim on" accuracy?

[Deker 3,478]

So if I understand this all correctly, there is little to choose between .222, .223 and .22-250 in terms of their noise (when moderated), the cost of factory ammo and it's availablity and their flat shooting trajectory apart from .22-250 will give you about another 50yards of "aim on" accuracy?

 

Noise wise, you will still pick out the 22-250 easily from the 3 of them, even with a mod!

 

Factory Ammo choice, availability and price, the .223 wins easily!

 

The 22-250 is the flattest shooting, hits the hardest and pushes out the range a bit further!

 

It's a matter of looking at your land/shooting/quarry and deciding what best suits!

 

Certainly 200-250 yards is very possible with the .223, I have taken fox and deer with mine at these distances without problem, but most of my fox and deer are MUCH closer anyway....

 

......so it's simply a matter of what you want to do with it!

[jamie g 17]

So if I understand this all correctly, there is little to choose between .222, .223 and .22-250 in terms of their noise (when moderated), the cost of factory ammo and it's availablity and their flat shooting trajectory apart from .22-250 will give you about another 50yards of "aim on" accuracy?

 

Noise wise, you will still pick out the 22-250 easily from the 3 of them, even with a mod!

 

Factory Ammo choice, availability and price, the .223 wins easily!

 

The 22-250 is the flattest shooting, hits the hardest and pushes out the range a bit further!

 

It's a matter of looking at your land/shooting/quarry and deciding what best suits!

 

Certainly 200-250 yards is very possible with the .223, I have taken fox and deer with mine at these distances without problem, but most of my fox and deer are MUCH closer anyway....

 

i dont think you can really tell the difference with the noise on the 3 of them. i think most of the difference is the sort of land you shoot over. have one place i go that runs next to the m5 motorway. and the hum of the traffic really cuts the noise of the guns down.

 

your going to get noise anyhow and it wont matter to foxy ! he wont out run any of them

......so it's simply a matter of what you want to do with it!

[SNAP SHOT 194]

Seeing that you Want something within a cost limit bullet wise,

 

 

i'd highly recommend the .223, .222 is just below this but bullet choice is limited and not readily near as available as the .223, unless your gonna take up reloading, then i'd recommend the 22-250, if not i'd go .223,

 

WHY....

 

look at the sheer choice of rifles available to you....

 

choice of ammo is vast...

 

price of ammo is good if you shop around....

 

try a few different factory brands and weights and see what your gun likes then buy bulk and get it cheaper.....!!!

 

.223 will cover your range limits out to 300 and over if your confident....

 

What is the best....?????? every one has different needs, land types, etc, the best calibre is the one which enables you to have the confidence to place your shots, were you want them to go consistantly.....

 

good luck...

 

 

Snap.

[blackfox 9]

.204

[Colster 1]

.204

 

..is no good for deer

 

 

Thanks guys, it's a way off yet but looks like .223 could be for me as it would probably get more use on deer than foxes but am worried if I went .243 I'd be limiting myself to land that could accomodate it while I go through the closed ticket stage.

Edited February 21, 2010 by Colster

[hingindoolie 0]

just wandering what calibre you think is best for fox control, taking into account price of rifle and ammo,accuracy,range,noise ect using factory ammo. my license is up for renewal and i have .222 on it but sold it a while back but im looking to get another rifle and it will save me sending for a variation if i get it right 1st time, land and everything else is not an issue, just what rifle and ammo including calibre.

THANKS DAZ

 

This has been done to death but lets have a quick look at SPECIFICALLY what you asked, the 22-250 hits hardest but is also the noisiest and the most expensive ammo!

 

222 is the quietest (just less than .223) and the hardest to find ammo for.

 

223 sits in the middle with a vast range of easy to find ammo, generally as sensibly priced as they get, also some VERY cheap factory rounds if you look in the right place.

 

Hit a fox in the right place with ANY of them and you have a dead fox, so what is the best for fox???

 

Deker has got it spot on.