Why do you choose specific breed as female over male

[Bigshrimp 5]

I've read a few posts where people comment that a better dog will come from a 1/2 x if the Grey is the bitch, or GSD is the bitch, etc.

 

 

I can see some circumstances where the choice of male and female should be obvious like a beddyxgrey

 

 

Why do you choose a specific breed to mother the pups over another breed???

 

Or, should it not make a difference??

[huntingalltheway 2]

I've read a few posts where people comment that a better dog will come from a 1/2 x if the Grey is the bitch, or GSD is the bitch, etc.

 

 

I can see some circumstances where the choice of male and female should be obvious like a beddyxgrey

 

 

Why do you choose a specific breed to mother the pups over another breed???

 

Or, should it not make a difference??

im told from people i know who have owned the first xs that you want the better dog as the bitch because they follow the mothers way instead of the fathers. this isnt just the ways in lurchers in greyhound breeding its the dams line that is highest regarded so there must be something proven that they do follow the mum more than the dad. hope this helps

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

In view of modern genetics there should be no difference.

[huntingalltheway 2]

In view of modern genetics there should be no difference.

modern genetics only says that each parent gives 50% of the required chromazones of the dna of a dog. but certain chromosones are sex dominant this has been proven now for years hence why greyhound bitches have the most regarded line. hence with flint08 crosses of horse and donkey is a great example. which yet again displays there are sex dominant chromazones

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

Indeed some chromosomes control sex in humans the 23rd pair is XY in males and XX in females. Its possible that a trait could be sex linked, like colour blindness in humans. I'd be very suprised if any trait that are benefical to hunting dogs are single gene controlled or sex linked. Happy to be proven otherwise though.

 

It should also be noted that a collie and a greyhound will have 99.9% of the same DNA which is why they produce viable offspring whereas a horse and donkey have different numbers of chromosomes so that would make a huge difference

Edited February 19, 2010 by anagallis_arvensis

[poacher3161 1,766]

Baised on wat i have noted over the years on different lurchers out of greyhounds the better one's have come out of the greyhound been the sire wether its just coincidence i would not like to say.atb dell

 

 

[stroller 341]

I would go the other way on i think the best breeding comes from the dams lines, ive seen this with terriers, lurchers and gundogs. but why i have no idea. the saluki breeders on here have some real knowledge of bloodines maybe they are best placed to give an opinion?

[huntingalltheway 2]

Indeed some chromosomes control sex in humans the 23rd pair is XY in males and XX in females. Its possible that a trait could be sex linked, like colour blindness in humans. I'd be very suprised if any trait that are benefical to hunting dogs are single gene controlled or sex linked. Happy to be proven otherwise though.

 

It should also be noted that a collie and a greyhound will have 99.9% of the same DNA which is why they produce viable offspring whereas a horse and donkey have different numbers of chromosomes so that would make a huge difference

there has been lengthy test on the make up of the dna of dogs an yes it is almost the same but the last section cant be properly 100% mapped. but it has already been proven that there are certain sex dominant traits. hence why when you breed greyhounds you pick the best bred bitch as they seem to follow the dam more than the sire now this has been tried and tested in greyhounds and now in breeding the dam is regarded higher than the sire. this has been this way for years. like i said its been tried and tested and in most cases they seem to follow the dam. this isnt 100% as it doesnt all ways work that way but as a rule it generally does

[Trigger 26]

I have worked gsd X greyhounds bred both ways round there apears to be a slightly different apearance in looks and mental attitude in the dogs. if you put a greyhound dog over a good gsd bitch i think that more of the pups have turned out to be good workers than those bred out of the greyhound bitch. i think that the mother contributes the mental attitude and maybe a small amount of shape where as the father contributes the speed an height. thats why i always like the mother to be the gsd.

[Bosun11 537]

The reason as to why folk use the Greyhound as the brood is fairly simple, they are easily available and usually cheap.

 

That said, all of the old boy lurchermen (most long gone now) that i've known, have always stated that better crosses will come out of a greyhound sire.

 

Which then meant Lurchers were a much more valuable commodity back then, also it's worth note, that many belived that if a pure bred bitch was crossed with another breed, subsiquentley all further offspring out of her (to her own breed) would be 'tainted' (ruined) by the different breed used before!

[riohog 5,701]

I have worked gsd X greyhounds bred both ways round there apears to be a slightly different apearance in looks and mental attitude in the dogs. if you put a greyhound dog over a good gsd bitch i think that more of the pups have turned out to be good workers than those bred out of the greyhound bitch. i think that the mother contributes the mental attitude and maybe a small amount of shape where as the father contributes the speed an height. thats why i always like the mother to be the gsd.

cant speak about grey xgsd but i do tend to aggree with you on mental attitude on the bitch side ,possibly coulor .. and hight and speed from the dog ..male side ... wish it was that easy !!

[poacher3161 1,766]

I can only relate to records i have kept for over 30 years in relation to different crosses like all the best collie x lurcher types have been [bANNED TEXT] the collie cross as been the dam.The most i heard of saluki/grey first cross in some cicles years ago was a bitch that was matched regular wich was the litter sister to beany who was out of a pure saluki to one of the greatest greyhounds of all time.atb dell

[anagallis_arvensis 2]

What complicates matters is that females will produces X and Y chromosome eggs and so can produce either sex offspring and males have only X chromosomes in sperm. So females should have all the available male and female gene traits but it is the egg which decides if the offspring is male or female. I am no genetics expert but I would fail to see how it could matter. So some double recessive traits can be past from females to males, but still need the recessive trait from the male to be expresssed. Or to summarise females have male and female genes, males just have the male ones, but could have got them from either parent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone understands this could they explain it back to me!!!

[stroller 341]

Anagallis

 

i will seek you here and there

 

if ever i need driven to drink before tea time?

 

There are some clever buggers on here

[stabba 10,745]

The simple fact of the matter is this.... Put the best to the best and let nature take its course..... atb stabba