Larsen Trap ~ Questions!

[J Darcy 5,871]

To be honest DS i would put that trap away until march time. We used to use one many years ago in the garden. I was pretty keen on the maggies with my old airgun and i thought i had most of them wiped up. WRONG! put the larson down and within half an hour there was a pair of pied pirates sat on top of it. I think we averages 15-20 per spring from our back garden. they are so effective when used right, but i have never, ever caught anything in one that didnt house a call bird. good luck mate.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Thanks for the valued in put, JD.

 

Ok. So we now have the situation that I own this thing. 'Put it away'? But Where? So I guess it's as well sat out there in that secure spinney as anywhere else on my land.

 

But now ye have me thinking on other lines too. I know more ways than one of skinning a cat. I'm now going to wander around pondering a sheeps head and my old " Hoodie " net trap.

 

Wonder if I could take a mag with that thing?

 

Heh! Haven't got much else to do with my time just yet. That could prove yet another interesting little project. I guess the fact is I'll need that CB by march. I don't see any volanteers turning up. Looks to me like bagging me a live mag could be quite a priority round here

[moley 115]

Thanks for the valued in put, JD.

 

Ok. So we now have the situation that I own this thing. 'Put it away'? But Where? So I guess it's as well sat out there in that secure spinney as anywhere else on my land.

 

But now ye have me thinking on other lines too. I know more ways than one of skinning a cat. I'm now going to wander around pondering a sheeps head and my old " Hoodie " net trap.

 

Wonder if I could take a mag with that thing?

 

Heh! Haven't got much else to do with my time just yet. That could prove yet another interesting little project. I guess the fact is I'll need that CB by march. I don't see any volanteers turning up. Looks to me like bagging me a live mag could be quite a priority round here

i have trapped whole families late in the season, but always with a call bird, if you can visit it every day , then why not have it set , put some bait around and in it and you never know , i have always said , you will not catch anything in a trap hung up in the shed

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

you will not catch anything in a trap hung up in the shed

 

 

As it happens, I've just come in from checking it. No change. But then, nor have I noted any corvids around here for a few days now. Let them come

[Guest thelamperman]

duckwing is the boy, lads when it comes to larson traps. take it from me he knows what hes on about.

he's made me 2, and they both work perfect after a bit of advice from him.

 

good traping.

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

why not try paunching a pine martin or a rat or something i dont think the maggies will mind who's guts

there tuckin into ??

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

To be honest DS i would put that trap away until march time. We used to use one many years ago in the garden. I was pretty keen on the maggies with my old airgun and i thought i had most of them wiped up. WRONG! put the larson down and within half an hour there was a pair of pied pirates sat on top of it. I think we averages 15-20 per spring from our back garden. they are so effective when used right, but i have never, ever caught anything in one that didnt house a call bird. good luck mate.

 

 

Does anyone know the legalities of setting a larson trap in yer garden ? its just i have a really small garden

and hadnt considered putting the trap on the shed !

 

I have nabours who live above me you see .

[john b 38]

Ricky

You need to have a look at the terms of the general license.

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...showtopic=13925

There have been cases where people have been reported and taken to court but the outcome seems to vary. I think it very much depends on your justification for taking the birds.

I once emailed DEFRA to ask exactly this question - I reproduce below my enquiry and the response:

 

My email:

8th March 2005

Dear DEFRA

Guidance on interpretation of revised Open License

 

I am writing to request your help to understand the recent changes to the open license and how it applies to me.

Last year a pair of magpies nested in a local pine tree, where they successfully bred and raised two young. During the summer the magpies dominated the area and at least once I personally witnessed the magpies attacking a blackbird nest to take and eat the young.

On that occasion I scared the magpies off, but they waited in trees in sight of my garden. Within 20 minutes of me returning indoors, they were back and attacking the nest again. This cycle continued until the entire blackbird young had been taken.

This year I have obtained a Larsen trap with the express purpose of culling the magpies and preventing a nesting pair becoming established. Not withstanding the regulations covering trap inspection and welfare of the call bird, please can you advise me on the following points:

• Am I legally able to trap and kill magpies based on the behaviour I witnessed last year and the ineffective attempts to scare them off ? My concern is that the birds I trap are quite possibly different individuals from those I saw, but almost certain to display the same species behaviour this season.

• Are my friends and neighbours able to borrow and operate the trap on the strength of my experience last year ?

 

The Answer

Mr B,

I'm afraid I cannot give specific legal advice. You or your friends / neighbours must be certain that you are operating within the purpose of the general licence for example WLF 100087 is for the purpose of conserving wild birds and you must comply with the terms and conditions of the licence. You do not need to have tried scaring as it is not a condition on the licence. If in any doubt I would advise you to seek independent legal advice.

Mr H

Species Policy Officer

European Wildlife Division

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

in other words .........if you want a stait answer dont come to us !

 

:secret:

[john b 38]

Yes that's what I thought. What makes it worse is that the chap who replied to me, is the same chap that signed the bloody license on behalf of the government in the first place !

 

http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/regulat/...n/wlf100087.pdf

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

 

not getting any thing on that link

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Finally got one, yesterday. Saw it's mate sneaking off as I looked out and re set with matey in the Call Bird compartment. Told everyone I'd have his mate today.

 

Looked out today and Both traps had fired! Got TWO more!

 

Only pisser is; I wracked my brain for who might want a mag or two. Couldn't come up with anyone so whacked the two new ones. Just spoke to the local Butcher (he's a member of the Gun Club) and he said he'd have shifted both of them for me!

 

Oh well. If I should get another, I'll fetch it straight in for him. Has his own trap out and reckons he's sen about nine of the b*****ds on his ground.

 

They're getting a bit thinner round my neck of the woods now though!

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

Thats a boy ditchy !

 

Think i could mount one in that wee wood somewhere out of harms reach ???

 

would this work ??

 

just typing as i think and thinking as i type !

 

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Ricky; Mine is set in a tiny spinney, mate! Sitka Spruce. Couple of dozen trees, spaced typical plantation style. Thickish, grassy / rushy undercover. I just plonked the trap down, about ten foot inside the fence. Hardly see it and now ye don't see any maggie's round here!

 

My mate, the call bird's doing well. Happy as larry in there and eating better than he must have in the wild. I'd be gutted to get up one day and find him off his perch. Already quite attatched to the little judas!

 

Hoodie's are next, mate. Using the " Hoodie " net trap I just have to work out a wrinkle and I'll talk about that when I've done ......

[Ricky-N.p.p 0]

yeah but the wood I'm talkin about is in the middle of the village and the youngsters sometimes hang around there but if i could get it up out of harms reach this might work .

 

what dya think ?