Larsen Trap ~ Questions!

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Ok, lads, here we go; I've never had a Larsen before. But I picked one up in a deal the other day. Funny this, as I've noticed the maggie numbers steadily climbing of late - young getting around, I s'pose - and had decided to do my bit against them. I'd liturally just started baiting the area, ready to use other methods at my devious disposal, when this bloody Larsen landed in my lap. So .....

 

I have it set, down below the cottage amongst a stand of trees where I've noticed both the mag's and the hoodies get. Having left them a couple of eggs, and those having been taken 'over night', I figured I'd bait the Larry with eggs too. I have no Call Bird and, anyway, am given to believe they work best in the nesting season. Not that I won't pop any younger catch in the cage ~ nothing ventured!

 

Basicly then; What's to know about these things? Mine's a top loader. Double trap. Odd - to me - how the doors close upward. I'd always imagined they worked like a Bullfinch Trap.

 

I must admit, I had to apply myself, regarding the drop away perches. I've chosen to chamfer the ends like " > ", so they should just hold and give away easily if one of the buggers lands on one. I found a butt ended cut held too firmly for my tastes, what with those powerfull, door lifting springs. (Is this a design fault? Or won't they go in under a raised hatch?) Using natural branches, the bark would likely peel away under the pressure if I tried to set so fine against the edge of a butt cut, see?

 

Anyway; If ye know enough to pass me any hints and tips, ye likely have all this sussed long since, eh? But it's a completely new trap on me. Known about them for years. Never had the situation to use one. Got one now and hope to make bloody good use of it.

 

I think I may yet have something else up my sleeve for the last three Hoodie's plaguing this area though! Eh, Ricky?

[Guest carra]

one peace of dowling and cut it into three sections flat cuts my bairns can do it so ime sure you can work it out

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Collapsing perches! Brilliant!

 

No need for the snideness of the comment though mate. Have I upset you along the line?

[Guest carra]

one peace of dowling and cut it into three sections flat cuts my bairns can do it so ime sure you can work it out oops i posted that twice lol no [bANNED TEXT] you havent upset me no whare along the line i just though it was a strange question from a man of your caliber :thumbs-up:

Edited October 10, 2006 by carra

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

No worries As ye see, I talk straight!

 

Now, that's obviously one of those ideas which is blindingly simple ~ once ye Know! I mean; How to cut and construct it is 'childs play', but I've genuinely never noted the concept before.

 

Actually, there are several bits of straight chopped wood in the decoy part of this cage ..... I wonder if they're the original ' Perches ' which my mate was using? I guess he too just assumed I'd know the score? F***! No way can I now admit to him I never sussed it!

 

Anyway, like I say: Complete Larsen Virgin, me. Haven't got a f***in clue and not ashamed to admit it. I take it you've had experiance with the buggers? If so; Any more tips, please? Cos that's a f***in Blinder! I'll get out there and change those perches tomorrow!

 

I've heard split rabbits are the better bait? I have no rabbits around here. Reckon the hens eggs'll get the sods in there?

 

 

 

Oh, dick 'ai! " Anononymous User "'s having a crawl over this thread. Not long now and we'll see a " Magpie Control UK " site popping up!

[Guest carra]

eggs or rabbit is always the preferd bait , to catch you caller bird , once your caller is in the bag then you have a power bait , just as long as you look after your caller and feed and watter it, its all on the up from there , aye there amasing (traps)

[Guest J-Jones]

they dont work as good at this time of year as they do in the spring time when the corvids are more territorial

[DUCKWING 302]

WELL DS ,

 

IVE MADE QUITE A FEW OF THESE LARSONS ON VARIOUS SCALES

 

PERSONALLY .... I DONT USE THE SECTIONAL TREADLE STICK ...... TOO BLOODY FIDDLEY , IVE CAUGHT PLENTY WITH THE HAZEL WAND JUST PUT IT BARELY ON THE BOTTOM OF THE DOOR , I FIND THAT IF A DROPPED HAT WILL SET IT OFF , ITS GONNA CATCH

 

ANOTHER POINT ............. WHERE TO SET ? , WELL I HAVE FOUND OVER THE LAST 20 YRS MY BEST SITES WERE NEXT TO TREES AND ON BUILDING ROOFS ..... FLAT ONES OF COURSE OR WITH VERY LITTLE SLOPE , BASICALLY UP A HEIGHT

 

THE CALL BIRD HAS TO HAVE A SHELTER , THEY WONT LAST LONG IN THE WET WEATHER , ALSO BUNNY BOTTLES WORK WELL AS WATERERS ..... THEY SOON GET THE HANG OF THEM

 

YEP SPRING TIMES THE KILLING PERIOD .... BUT YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER RUN AS THE YOUNGSTERS FLEE THE NEST

 

 

 

 

 

LARSON SET AND CATCHING

 

 

 

 

 

 

MINI TRAP ........

 

 

 

ALL THE BEST DUCKWING

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

DW; My trap was made by a local bloke. Englishman. His work's fawned over, but I don't rate it like the ones our own 'The Big Fish' makes ~ just not the same league!

 

The mate who gave it to me had already added what he considered a 'bit of shelter for the Call Bird'. I'll be improving that token gesture a lot more before I ever commit any poor bird to live in there though.

 

Still, all in all, I suppose it should do the trick. Matey reckons he's had a few through it. I have it set amidst some trees where I've noted maggie's and hoodies get. I expect young birds have much to do with the current upsurge. Be nice if I could get one of those. I'd keep it till next year, providing it'd settle. Anyway, we'll see. Trap's out there now, baited and set. As long as no mink, rats, pine martens, badgers or god knows what else comes in under the trap sides and nicks the eggs, we'll see what happens.

 

 

DO like that little trap, mate. I have a weakness for the 'drilled and barred' stuff Got an old Double Trap Cage here. Made by Young's, before they went over to twilweld. F***in beauty!

[maty j 6]

see if you can get a call bird mate, youll have much more success. my mate lent me a trap and a call bird, we set it morning and by lunch had the maximum it could catch (2). allso gave a bird to a member of another site who was having trouble getting a call bird in and he said he had sucecess quite quickly.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Call Bird would most certainly help, mate. Sure. And that regardless of season. However, it's the chicken and egg thing, isn't it? To catch a bird for a CB, I have to first catch the bugger!

 

Never mind. Traps are patient things. It's sat out there, even as I'm sat here, miles away in this cafe!

 

Catch one though and I'll treat it like royalty!

[Guest The Big Fish]

Hey shitter, you would be lucky to catch with a call bird at this time of year, they realy are only terratorial during nesting time, but hey its worth a shot i suppose.

I used to keep an avairy with call birds in over winter ready for the next season, but i found the best bait for catching without a call bird is half a rabbit "sunny side up" so it realy catches their eye

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Rabbit? Don't I know it, mate. But we're just a tad low on rabbits in Leitrim just now! Pine Martens? Tripping over the f***ing things. Bunnies ....?

 

I have a plan, actually. Hatched it while I waited for this page to open: Sheeps head! What ye reckon? I'll get down the abbi' and pick one up. 'Mind you; Probably only lead to a poxy badger trashing the trap for it!

 

Birds kept over? I'm pondering that. But, if used on the same ground, wouldn't they become the territorial ones for that patch, mate?

[Guest JohnGalway]

Sheeps head, genius, pure genius! Just this week I was thinking of dummying up a dead sheep with an old fleece of wool (can't give the damn stuff away so may as well do something with it!) but yours is a much better idea DS!

 

Greycrows love sheeps eyes and tounges, I wouldn't think a badger would bother with it? Could be wrong though.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Around here, John, rats get to most things long before any badger. It's just that badgers pass right through the little spinney where I have my larsen and ..... well; Sods law 'n all that!