poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Here`s a few reasons i can think of,some have already been said.Whippets are not stupid,readly use there noses,Will have a go at anything,But are handicaped by there size,A crosss with the greyhound brings up the size, with out becoming to big, and most importantly for lads that like to see a dog that runs its quarry at electric pace,You might call it do or die.There is no dilution of the speed.Personally i love to watch these dogs run,You might be home earlier,but every run would have been exciting.So while a whippet might be a rabbit specialist,cross it with a greyhound,you will get sport what ever pops up.Go and see one run even if you come back saying it wouldnt suit you,You will see why lads run em. As also said make a great dog to put back to your lurchers. More or less sums them up their same as any other cross they will suite some but not others but nobody can say that most of them dont try.atvb dell Quote Link to post
steveS.Yorks 161 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too would much rather run a first cross whippet/greyhound than a first cross collie greyhound. In theory anyhow. But.............you give me a 7/8 greyhound 1/8 collie and I would chose that over a whippet/greyhound any day. I might would run a 3/4 bred if they were fast enough to catch something. mark my words 3/4 grey 1/4 collie crosses are fast enough to catch anythink in this country!!! tried and tested to the limit!!! nobody on this forum can truly doubt the 3/4 cross's lamping ability!!! All the lads running fen hares and the lads running in the lamping comps on here should take note of this x,sounds unbeatable Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too would much rather run a first cross whippet/greyhound than a first cross collie greyhound. In theory anyhow. But.............you give me a 7/8 greyhound 1/8 collie and I would chose that over a whippet/greyhound any day. I might would run a 3/4 bred if they were fast enough to catch something. mark my words 3/4 grey 1/4 collie crosses are fast enough to catch anythink in this country!!! tried and tested to the limit!!! nobody on this forum can truly doubt the 3/4 cross's lamping ability!!! You might be right but I'd say it's a 50/50 chance cause I'd almost bet that alot of em are not fast enough to suit alot of folks on here. and what in this world would they be chasing apart from a bloody cheetah wich is not likely(which they in fact would catch in the end through stamina) thats going to be too fast for them??????? NO IM NOT NOW SAYING A LURCHER CAN KILL A CHEETAH BEFORE I GET TOLD IM A MADMAN Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too would much rather run a first cross whippet/greyhound than a first cross collie greyhound. In theory anyhow. But.............you give me a 7/8 greyhound 1/8 collie and I would chose that over a whippet/greyhound any day. I might would run a 3/4 bred if they were fast enough to catch something. mark my words 3/4 grey 1/4 collie crosses are fast enough to catch anythink in this country!!! tried and tested to the limit!!! nobody on this forum can truly doubt the 3/4 cross's lamping ability!!! All the lads running fen hares and the lads running in the lamping comps on here should take note of this x,sounds unbeatable LAMPING ABILITY IF YOU CAN READ PROPERLY!!! Quote Link to post
derbypoacher 6 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 the one i had was 3 1/4 whippet 1 1/4 greyhound and she did me proud very clever very fast and could do whatever i wanted,iv never seen another one run but mine worked well for me Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too would much rather run a first cross whippet/greyhound than a first cross collie greyhound. In theory anyhow. But.............you give me a 7/8 greyhound 1/8 collie and I would chose that over a whippet/greyhound any day. I might would run a 3/4 bred if they were fast enough to catch something. mark my words 3/4 grey 1/4 collie crosses are fast enough to catch anythink in this country!!! tried and tested to the limit!!! nobody on this forum can truly doubt the 3/4 cross's lamping ability!!! I am sorry but imho the 3 quarter grey/collie is one ove the most overated lurchers out their admitedly their is good speciemens but they were hyped out of all proportion by Hancock and plummer all them years ago i have seen quite a few of this cross run even one out of the first litter hancock bred and can understand [bANNED TEXT] lads put a different hybred over them atb dell Quote Link to post
tillylamp 1,830 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 tillylamp, on 17 February 2010 - 07:42 PM, said: Hi In the eighties I had a proper whippet crossed greyhound from working stocks and it was, in my opinion, one of the best workers I have seen. It would take rabbit, squirrel, rat, hare and even caught the odd pheasant. He was a tough little cookie and it just naturally came to him with minimal training to hunt these down. He was exceptional because what ever he saw he would just naturally go for it. He was a one off who is much talked about within my family. Sadly missed fell to the big C (aged 12 years) as do many others. He was very fast and could twist and turn on a sixpence and his pick up was spot on everytime. His skin didn't seem to tear like a whippets does nowadays he just seemed tougher. I wouldn't hesitate to have one again and if it turned out like my old max I would be really chuffed. TL sounds like a good catch dog tilly, did you ever try him to fox? jamie2004live,he was a brilliant catch dog mate,he made it look effortless when he did it,i never did try him on foxes but i would have no doubt he would have done it well, Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too would much rather run a first cross whippet/greyhound than a first cross collie greyhound. In theory anyhow. But.............you give me a 7/8 greyhound 1/8 collie and I would chose that over a whippet/greyhound any day. I might would run a 3/4 bred if they were fast enough to catch something. mark my words 3/4 grey 1/4 collie crosses are fast enough to catch anythink in this country!!! tried and tested to the limit!!! nobody on this forum can truly doubt the 3/4 cross's lamping ability!!! I am sorry but imho the 3 quarter grey/collie is one ove the most overated lurchers out their admitedly their is good speciemens but they were hyped out of all proportion by Hancock and plummer all them years ago i have seen quite a few of this cross run even one out of the first litter hancock bred and can understand [bANNED TEXT] lads put a different hybred over them atb dell im not saying they are the best im saying they are fast enough to catch all the quarry in this country!! in response to D.Edward SAYING THEY ARENT FAST ENOUGH FOR HIM!! Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too would much rather run a first cross whippet/greyhound than a first cross collie greyhound. In theory anyhow. But.............you give me a 7/8 greyhound 1/8 collie and I would chose that over a whippet/greyhound any day. I might would run a 3/4 bred if they were fast enough to catch something. mark my words 3/4 grey 1/4 collie crosses are fast enough to catch anythink in this country!!! tried and tested to the limit!!! nobody on this forum can truly doubt the 3/4 cross's lamping ability!!! if you honestly think that lamping is a true test of a dog's all round ability think again,it's only one aspect of working,you show your obvious lack of experience by the statement's you've made about well structured comment's given to you by decent dog men,some of you younger lads would do well to listen to sound advice from lad's that have been out there and done it,not read about it or heard it from their mate's,you asked for structured comment's,then proceeded to pick fault with anyone that bothered to answer you,listen and you may learn something!!! Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too would much rather run a first cross whippet/greyhound than a first cross collie greyhound. In theory anyhow. But.............you give me a 7/8 greyhound 1/8 collie and I would chose that over a whippet/greyhound any day. I might would run a 3/4 bred if they were fast enough to catch something. mark my words 3/4 grey 1/4 collie crosses are fast enough to catch anythink in this country!!! tried and tested to the limit!!! nobody on this forum can truly doubt the 3/4 cross's lamping ability!!! if you honestly think that lamping is a true test of a dog's all round ability think again,it's only one aspect of working,you show your obvious lack of experience by the statement's you've made about well structured comment's given to you by decent dog men,some of you younger lads would do well to listen to sound advice from lad's that have been out there and done it,not read about it or heard it from their mate's,you asked for structured comment's,then proceeded to pick fault with anyone that bothered to answer you,listen and you may learn something!!! because if you read some of the statements there contradicting!! ive been there and done it since i was knee high to a grass hopper about listened to my mates! just because your old doesnt mean you know everthing!! im going to pick holes in peoples statements thats how you learn and begin to understand!! what do you think i should do sit there and take all the info in and thats gospel from now on too me!! i dont think so i question because i want to hear there reasons for saying things i give my versions so they can pick holes in my way of thinking!! its what i like too call EDUCATING myself!!! Quote Link to post
huntingalltheway 2 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 the one i had was 3 1/4 whippet 1 1/4 greyhound and she did me proud very clever very fast and could do whatever i wanted,iv never seen another one run but mine worked well for me i could imagin there ok to catch 10 rabbits but you rarely here whip/greys catching 40 rabbits plus. Where as it is common round the country for the collie or bull or alsation and bedlington x's to do this i mean if your like me and you'd be happy with 10 to 20 thats fine but to serious hunters these numbers just dont cut it. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 A whippet adds the size, agility, spirit etc. A litter of greyhounds wouldnt, all if any go the distance a litter of whipxgreys would there would be far more waste in a litter as working dogs! Dont under estimate a whipxgrey! A good one is far better than the average lurcher in my eyes! Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,461 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 i dont see the reason in crossing the two together when there are plenty of good small greyhounds about and on the other side of the fence i have seen lots of whippets thats could quite easily pass off as greyhounds to the untrained eye!! why not use one of these instead of mixing the two together???!! im looking for the reason to cross them together what good does it do the dog in the long run?? if you cross a whippet with a collie its to add brain!! if you cross bull to a grey its to add gameness!! like i said anyone tell me how whippet xgreyhound benifits the dog?? HERES SOME REASONS FOR YA THE WHIPP/GREY, wil have more staminar than a pure grey, and more speed than a whippet, it wil genraly be larger than a whippet. Good reply, Tomo. This has been the staple cross in the non-ped Whippet racing scene, and I notice that they are now being crossed with Salukis, more and more, to get that extra early speed for the smaller fields. I remember back in the 60's and 70's 1st cross Whippet/Greys murdering hares; not 3/3 dogs but could take one or two with ease. Cheers. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 The fawn dog in this pic is one of the best dogs i ever owned. Took everything i asked of him. Hes out of the old carl williams stuff back in the 80s. Wish he was around now!! He would take all squatters from there seat with ease and make the ones that did run look silly!! Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 the one i had was 3 1/4 whippet 1 1/4 greyhound and she did me proud very clever very fast and could do whatever i wanted,iv never seen another one run but mine worked well for me i could imagin there ok to catch 10 rabbits but you rarely here whip/greys catching 40 rabbits plus. Where as it is common round the country for the collie or bull or alsation and bedlington x's to do this i mean if your like me and you'd be happy with 10 to 20 thats fine but to serious hunters these numbers just dont cut it. The stamina on the ones i can remember from the 70s was not to be underestimated then again the pure whippets were packed with stamina and a recovery rate after a short run second to non.IMHO a well bred whippet/grey first cross would have the same or more stamina as a 3 quarter greyhound bred dog depending on wat cross.?? Quote Link to post
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