romany52 313 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 i have 2 black eyed white jills and i mate them with a black eyed male whitch is sandy in the last few years i have only been getting 2 or 3 black eyed white out a litter has any one ever had a full litter of black eyed and can any one tell people round my end that ferrets do the same job dont matter what F##king colour eyes lol thanks kev What colour are the other kits? Sandy or Silver? Try using an albno hob that has been bred from albino parents. What difference will that make, an albino is an albino, no matter what colour it's parents were. It will make a difference in the colour of the kits it throws. No it won't, the albino gene is recessive to all other colours, meaning the albino can't possibly carry any other colour genes. So one albino is exactly the same as the next when it comes to breeding for colour. i used to have a sandy hob whos mother was an albino the litter was mixed Thats perfectly possible, but the hob can't have been albino. Quote Link to post
ferret lady 73 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 No it won't, the albino gene is recessive to all other colours, meaning the albino can't possibly carry any other colour genes. So one albino is exactly the same as the next when it comes to breeding for colour. I'd suggest you do some research on albino genetics. Albinos are the result of a defect in the tyrosinase gene so that there is no melanin production. They can carry any color genes which they inherited from their parents, although the albino genes which they inherited from both parents does not allow any of those colors to be expressed. Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 No it won't, the albino gene is recessive to all other colours, meaning the albino can't possibly carry any other colour genes. So one albino is exactly the same as the next when it comes to breeding for colour. I'd suggest you do some research on albino genetics. Albinos are the result of a defect in the tyrosinase gene so that there is no melanin production. They can carry any color genes which they inherited from their parents, although the albino genes which they inherited from both parents does not allow any of those colors to be expressed. So your telling me that two albinos mated together can produce coloured offspring ? I was trying to put it in the simplest way possible. Quote Link to post
farmerkev09 105 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 ye thats what i got told and a friend dint listen and ended up will only 2 kits growing to adults Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,468 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 No it won't, the albino gene is recessive to all other colours, meaning the albino can't possibly carry any other colour genes. So one albino is exactly the same as the next when it comes to breeding for colour. I'd suggest you do some research on albino genetics. Albinos are the result of a defect in the tyrosinase gene so that there is no melanin production. They can carry any color genes which they inherited from their parents, although the albino genes which they inherited from both parents does not allow any of those colors to be expressed. So your telling me that two albinos mated together can produce coloured offspring ? I was trying to put it in the simplest way possible. Maybe not from two albinos bred together but if you use one that had a coloured parent with a coloured partner then it will increase the chances of throwing dark kits but the OP is after breeding DEW not poleys which is what i've got most of in the past when breeding from silvers/DEW's. Someone who has bred a fair few DEW's advised me that silver to albino is the way to go to produce them. Quote Link to post
ferret lady 73 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 So your telling me that two albinos mated together can produce coloured offspring ? I was trying to put it in the simplest way possible. In theory, two albinos will produce only albinos as they will both pass on one albino gene to their offspring. However, their offspring will also inherit the color genes passed on by the albino parents which are carried on other chromosomes. I have read scattered reports that albino parents have produced colored offsping, but have not seen any proof of that. Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) So your telling me that two albinos mated together can produce coloured offspring ? I was trying to put it in the simplest way possible. In theory, two albinos will produce only albinos as they will both pass on one albino gene to their offspring. However, their offspring will also inherit the color genes passed on by the albino parents which are carried on other chromosomes. I have read scattered reports that albino parents have produced colored offsping, but have not seen any proof of that. So in theory, the colour gene that's past along with the albino gene can be discounted, because it is never past indipendently of the albino gene. In practice the albino gene can be treated as a recessive colour gene. I have bred animals for over 50 yrs with no unpredictable results. In practice, believe it or not,over the years I've bred well over a 1000 chipmunks, mostly albino x albino and albino x normal split albino, breeding records showed that albino x split produced 50% of each with no coloured kits ever appearing in albino x albino litters. As a side note the records showed that the sex ratio of all the chipmunks I bred was exactly 50/50. which tends to suggest that the breeding results from albinos are just as predictable as the results from the sex genes. I've also worked with mice,rats,hamsters,gerbils,rabbits and ferrets and nothing has ever broken the basic rules of inheritance. Edited February 19, 2010 by romany52 Quote Link to post
ferret lady 73 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I agree that, so long as you're breeding albinos together, it doesn't matter what color genes they carry. It does matter if an albino is bred to a colored ferret in hopes of getting a specific color. Unless the breeder knows what colors the albino is carrying that aren't expressed, he/she may be very disappointed in the colors of the resultant kits. Quote Link to post
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