prey drive vs brains

[Guest fence_hopper]

fence hopper spoken like a true dogman

 

only messin mate, you tell these pudings how to do it

 

 

do you know what mate, i'm not blowing my own trumpet here but i've been out with alot of dog men seen all different styles and i have had people to embarresed to lamp with me coz they look like novices. its all i do and do it alot, so i'll let these prefesionals talk the talk on here and get out and enjoy doing what they wish they could do.

[Guest 2GOOD]

fence hopper spoken like a true dogman

 

only messin mate, you tell these pudings how to do it

 

 

do you know what mate, i'm not blowing my own trumpet here but i've been out with alot of dog men seen all different styles and i have had people to embarresed to lamp with me coz they look like novices. its all i do and do it alot, so i'll let these prefesionals talk the talk on here and get out and enjoy doing what they wish they could do.

you still willing to come down our way ,if so lets get out this next week ,

[Guest fence_hopper]

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i like a dog that has drive, seen so many dogs jog half the lamp with rabbits next to the hedge and turn back, makes my blood boil

just because a dog wont run at rabbits next to the hedge dont mean they have no prey drive it just means there brainy, why fight a endless battle.we all know that some of them come back in to the field but more of them get through.my dog does it and at times you think stop pissing about and run that beam but it aint that bad because she picks squaters out of the seat just walks to them a dog that runs the beam flat out will be tired quicker than the one that walks so i can live with missing the odd one on the edge just my oppinion

 

exactly, especialy at the end of the season non come back into field they know exactly where they going.

a dog that wont go to a rabbit thats close to the hedge is not being clever,because they are some of easyest to catch

 

FLINT08 Are you for real.Any dog with half a brain would never attempt to run a hedge rabbit.Maybe the question we should ask.Has your dog got more brains that you

IM AS THICK AS SHITE MATE

no its just that a lot of people on her need to learn how to USE a lamp .

amen to that mate, people think lamping is point and shoot, but theres more to it and untill you get the experience try new things you'll always be average. got loads of little things i do to give the dogs the upper hand to get them closer on longer slips etc some of these idiots on here know it all though, i got to say though i'm still and always learning

[Guest fence_hopper]

fence hopper spoken like a true dogman

 

only messin mate, you tell these pudings how to do it

 

 

do you know what mate, i'm not blowing my own trumpet here but i've been out with alot of dog men seen all different styles and i have had people to embarresed to lamp with me coz they look like novices. its all i do and do it alot, so i'll let these prefesionals talk the talk on here and get out and enjoy doing what they wish they could do.

you still willing to come down our way ,if so lets get out this next week ,

 

 

i'll tell you what mate i'll just let the girlfriend now that she will be stuck with are 3 kids under 5 and i'll be up its a nice offer would love to if i lived closer.

[boyo 1,398]

innan thanks for your comments mate hope we will have a odd day out together next year on the long ears up s ts pity these threads get ruined by people calling each other names why cant we just agree to disagree in what we like and want in our dogs because at the end of the day we are all on the same side. and as long as the dog pleases the one holding the lead then its doing its job . when talking about lurchers the well known saying comes to mind you can please some of the people some of the time but not all of them all of the time.

[adamb20 22]

i like a dog that has drive, seen so many dogs jog half the lamp with rabbits next to the hedge and turn back, makes my blood boil

just because a dog wont run at rabbits next to the hedge dont mean they have no prey drive it just means there brainy, why fight a endless battle. we all know that some of them come back in to the field but more of them get through.my dog does it and at times you think stop pissing about and run that beam but it aint that bad because she picks squaters out of the seat just walks to them a dog that runs the beam flat out will be tired quicker than the one that walks so i can live with missing the odd one on the edge just my oppinion

 

exactly, especialy at the end of the season non come back into field they know exactly where they going.

 

 

ffs you never seen a dog turn a rabbit from a hedge my whippet catches loads next to the hedges turns them straight into the field easy as that. if i had a dog that did it, well lets just say it would go to a better place. also why would the dog tire if you have give them plenty of road work and field work to increase there stamina nothing like a fit dog

i think all dogs will run at them by the hedge if there close enough im meaning if its a long slip and there by the hedge,and its obvious a dog will tire more running it does you thick c**t how ever much work it has done or how much stamina it has got,you must have some very good dogs if yours dont

 

 

who's the thick c**t, its common sense if it looks as if its wondering looking to find its way in the hedge dont slip but if you keep the lamp underneath him and he's plodding about slip the dog, you all talk the talk on here, if a lived close i'd show half You arse holes how to do it. if your dog is picking its own runs burie the fuker start agian.

 

im not saying my dog totaly chooses its runs, it will go to every rabbit i tell it to. obviously if it chose all its runs id be sick as f**k lol. what i mean is it wont go darting up to every rabbit thats not running but trot up the beam or even out the beam and then back in and try to sneak up on it if it is by the fence but this far in the season the rabbits know exactly what they are doing. as well as being quater collie she is also quater beddy so there is plenty of drive there and she wont think twice about diving into rough after summet, but she wont if she doesnt think she has a chance of getting it. first fox she seen, a big dog about november time, she coursed it got it, give it a bit shake and obviously with it been her first thort it was enoguh, the fox played dead for bout 30 seconds then turned round, bit her and took off under a fence and into the river which had burst its banks. she was straight over the fence and into the river after it and swam to the middle where the fox was been swept by the unbelieviably strong current. she was fighting with it while been swept down the river, lucky for the fox it hit a different current and got swept to the other side, my dog swam against the current to get accross but obviuosly fox was gone by this time. after a few minutes search she returned and jumped straight back in with out a second thort and made it back accross about quater mile down stream, i was shitting me self thought she would surely drown. now hows that for drive? she then went on to kill two hares and was inches off another fox going into a wood. she was 16 month at the time and she only 21 and half tts. i just think that constantly slipping on rabbits at the edge sickens a dog.

Edited February 14, 2010 by adamb20

[adamb20 22]

fence hopper spoken like a true dogman

 

only messin mate, you tell these pudings how to do it

 

 

do you know what mate, i'm not blowing my own trumpet here but i've been out with alot of dog men seen all different styles and i have had people to embarresed to lamp with me coz they look like novices. its all i do and do it alot, so i'll let these prefesionals talk the talk on here and get out and enjoy doing what they wish they could do.

 

fair eneogh mate im new to this, although i am out all the time. i know i probly will be a novice compared to you im just an argumentative person lol. atb adam.

[Guest fence_hopper]

fence hopper spoken like a true dogman

 

only messin mate, you tell these pudings how to do it

 

 

do you know what mate, i'm not blowing my own trumpet here but i've been out with alot of dog men seen all different styles and i have had people to embarresed to lamp with me coz they look like novices. its all i do and do it alot, so i'll let these prefesionals talk the talk on here and get out and enjoy doing what they wish they could do.

 

fair eneogh mate im new to this, although i am out all the time. i know i probly will be a novice compared to you im just an argumentative person lol. atb adam.

 

i'm far from the best lamper mate been doing it since i was 13 but now 24 and alot to learn. its like when i learned my trade your always learning

[TAZ BOY 4]

its a ballancing act.. rather have a ..clever fast dog ,,,than a fast thick dog!

 

 

THATS VERY RIGHT MATE SAME FOR ME

[steveS.Yorks 161]

Been at it a long time,in my area you need drive or its an empty bag,but a balance between drive and brains is needed imo,no use having a suicidal dog,its just a matter of time before it goes badly wrong,i like drive but not at the expence of sence,sometimes it comes with the work but not allways,seen it go badly wrong with my own eyes,not nice.

[adamb20 22]

Been at it a long time,in my area you need drive or its an empty bag,but a balance between drive and brains is needed imo,no use having a suicidal dog,its just a matter of time before it goes badly wrong,i like drive but not at the expence of sence,sometimes it comes with the work but not allways,seen it go badly wrong with my own eyes,not nice.

 

yeah obviously you need drive but i think the sence not to be totally reckless. whos to say that a dog with a stupidly high prey drive is going to catch the quarry no matter how much it wants to, and end up badly injured for somthing it wasnt going to catch any way. i still get good numbers with my dog and know that i can slip her on anything and can trust her decision to weather she can catch it or not as only the dog knows what its capable of. my mates got a dog with a very high prey drive but its always laid up. my dog has never had any injurys what so ever. depends what suits people i supose.

[Ideation 8,216]

A dog that has lots of prey drive and so uses its brains to put the game in the bag. Prey drive isnt just about running really fast and not letting anything get in the way. Prey drive is surely about doing what it takes to catch and if there is an easier way of doing it, dog should take that option and also know when its just not going to happen. No point wasting energy on pointless runs. Down to the owner to know whats good to run and when to slip. jmo.

 

atb

 

jai.

[scotty2306 37]

A dog that has lots of prey drive and so uses its brains to put the game in the bag. Prey drive isnt just about running really fast and not letting anything get in the way. Prey drive is surely about doing what it takes to catch and if there is an easier way of doing it, dog should take that option and also know when its just not going to happen. No point wasting energy on pointless runs. Down to the owner to know whats good to run and when to slip. jmo.

 

atb

 

jai.

very true

[Catcher 1 639]

i like a dog that has drive, seen so many dogs jog half the lamp with rabbits next to the hedge and turn back, makes my blood boil

just because a dog wont run at rabbits next to the hedge dont mean they have no prey drive it just means there brainy, why fight a endless battle.we all know that some of them come back in to the field but more of them get through.my dog does it and at times you think stop pissing about and run that beam but it aint that bad because she picks squaters out of the seat just walks to them a dog that runs the beam flat out will be tired quicker than the one that walks so i can live with missing the odd one on the edge just my oppinion

 

exactly, especialy at the end of the season non come back into field they know exactly where they going.

a dog that wont go to a rabbit thats close to the hedge is not being clever,because they are some of easyest to catch

 

FLINT08 Are you for real.Any dog with half a brain would never attempt to run a hedge rabbit.Maybe the question we should ask.Has your dog got more brains that you

and you say its bad to crab another man or his dog ,your just unbelievable .i see also you know NOTTHING after all these years .

 

 

Talking about the best way to lamp is not Crabbing or cant you tell the diferance

[boyo 1,398]

when ime talking about prey drive ime not talking about how fast the dog is although that certainly helps no matter what anyone else says because without speed you aint going to catch a lot. what ime refering to is the dogs desire and will to catch what its chasing when its on the chase and to go through the pain barrier and believe me ive had some that didnt go when the going got tough . prey drive is totally differant to just being a fast lurcher. and in my opinion and experience not all lurchers have the sort of prey drive ime talking about . but when you have a dog or bitch or line with it its something else and after forty odd years of running dogs ive never had a line with the prey drive i mentioned in bella and her pups who was by buck . they were truly something else with their heart and will to catch whatever they were chasing .