JohnGalway 1,043 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Hi all, I am considering putting in a tender for a predator control job. Thing is I haven't got the first clue how to go about this The job entails trapping mink & greycrows and controlling foxes. I've got the experience to do those jobs no problem. The area would be several specific sites which would entail me doing considerable mileage (€40 fuel allowance per week), basically I'm at one end of it and it would stretch 100 miles away from me. The work is supposed to be "full time", yet to have that defined. May involve weekend and unsociable hours I know I can do the job. But, I have no experience in pricing! I'd rather over quote and lose the job than cost myself money I don't really have. Any genuine help appreciated Yours drooling over the prospect.. JG Edited February 12, 2010 by JohnGalway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 2GOOD Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hi all, I am considering putting in a tender for a predator control job. Thing is I haven't got the first clue how to go about this The job entails trapping mink & greycrows and controlling foxes. I've got the experience to do those jobs no problem. The area would be several specific sites which would entail me doing considerable mileage (€40 fuel allowance per week), basically I'm at one end of it and it would stretch 100 miles away from me. The work is supposed to be "full time", yet to have that defined. May involve weekend and unsociable hours I know I can do the job. But, I have no experience in pricing! I'd rather over quote and lose the job than cost myself money I don't really have. Any genuine help appreciated Yours drooling over the prospect.. JG are you sure you are up to the job ,if you cant price it how do you know you can do it ?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watchman 256 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Hi all, I am considering putting in a tender for a predator control job. Thing is I haven't got the first clue how to go about this The job entails trapping mink & greycrows and controlling foxes. I've got the experience to do those jobs no problem. The area would be several specific sites which would entail me doing considerable mileage (€40 fuel allowance per week), basically I'm at one end of it and it would stretch 100 miles away from me. The work is supposed to be "full time", yet to have that defined. May involve weekend and unsociable hours I know I can do the job. But, I have no experience in pricing! I'd rather over quote and lose the job than cost myself money I don't really have. Any genuine help appreciated Yours drooling over the prospect.. JG are you sure you are up to the job ,if you cant price it how do you know you can do it ?????? i would say being up to the job is the easy bit,but tendering for a contract may involve method statements,risk assesments ect,if you never done one can be daunting i should imagine,after all it will need to be done to a proffesional standard to ensure getting the work,i presume Edited February 12, 2010 by watchman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stubby 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 check out kilgerms website, Im sure they have method statements/risk assments you can download to look at,use failing that, pm me your address, Ill sort out an old method statement to send you, you'll be able to tweak it around to suit your needs as for pricing, Id start with working out a reasonable wage you'd be happy with, remember to do it before tax/national insurance, then times it by 52 weeks/or 12 months, remember to add a bit more on for unforseen circumstances, ie if you were sick and had to get someone in for a few days to help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,252 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Hi all, I am considering putting in a tender for a predator control job. Thing is I haven't got the first clue how to go about this The job entails trapping mink & greycrows and controlling foxes. I've got the experience to do those jobs no problem. The area would be several specific sites which would entail me doing considerable mileage (€40 fuel allowance per week), basically I'm at one end of it and it would stretch 100 miles away from me. The work is supposed to be "full time", yet to have that defined. May involve weekend and unsociable hours I know I can do the job. But, I have no experience in pricing! I'd rather over quote and lose the job than cost myself money I don't really have. Any genuine help appreciated Yours drooling over the prospect.. JG are you sure you are up to the job ,if you cant price it how do you know you can do it ?????? 2Good, back in the UK I had a small pest control outfit, and imo doing the job is the easiest part. Getting the clients/contracts is more than 75% of the work. John, good luck with this, sounds like you are thinking its full time plus unsociable hours and weekends. Maybe try changing your mindset that it will be weekends and unsociable hours plus some normal time. Its a difficult scenario when you dont have the experience of what to expect, and even when you do know pretty much what the job entails in keeness to get the job its easy to get things wrong,,,, if it is youre only contract (ie fulltime) then its a costly error, but when you have a bit of a portfolio of contracts then not such a big deal. ie swings and roundabouts Probably telling you nothing you dont know so can only wish the best of luck. Back in the day,. Edited February 12, 2010 by GD Waz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 2GOOD Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Hi all, I am considering putting in a tender for a predator control job. Thing is I haven't got the first clue how to go about this The job entails trapping mink & greycrows and controlling foxes. I've got the experience to do those jobs no problem. The area would be several specific sites which would entail me doing considerable mileage (€40 fuel allowance per week), basically I'm at one end of it and it would stretch 100 miles away from me. The work is supposed to be "full time", yet to have that defined. May involve weekend and unsociable hours I know I can do the job. But, I have no experience in pricing! I'd rather over quote and lose the job than cost myself money I don't really have. Any genuine help appreciated Yours drooling over the prospect.. JG are you sure you are up to the job ,if you cant price it how do you know you can do it ?????? 2Good, back in the UK I had a small pest control outfit, and imo doing the job is the easiest part. Getting the clients/contracts is more than 75% of the work. John, good luck with this, sounds like you are thinking its full time plus unsociable hours and weekends. Maybe try changing your mindset that it will be weekends and unsociable hours plus some normal time. Its a difficult scenario when you dont have the experience of what to expect, and even when you do know pretty much what the job entails in keeness to get the job its easy to get things wrong,,,, if it is youre only contract (ie fulltime) then its a costly error, but when you have a bit of a portfolio of contracts then not such a big deal. ie swings and roundabouts Probably telling you nothing you dont know so can only wish the best of luck. Back in the day,. would it not be down to how cheap you are willing to go ,me i would do it just for the opertunity to shoot and hunt the vermin .free of charge ,but im not saying he should , Edited February 12, 2010 by 2GOOD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Thanks guys, keep it coming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I know it's a pisser, but the man to talk to is your bank manager. Set up a business plan, look at outgoing expenses, costs, potential profits. Your capital expenses should be neglible since you have the tools - the guns - to do the job. You need to look at cash-flow. If the job can generate positive flow, go for it. If not, not. ATB Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stubby 175 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [ would it not be down to how cheap you are willing to go ,me i would do it just for the opertunity to shoot and hunt the vermin .free of charge ,but im not saying he should , so forget, rent,tax,gas,electricity,food,etc etc, theres a big difference between "job" and "sport" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beggsybluestaff 1 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 dont forget to include public liability cost aswel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ROUGH COATED Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 What jail was you grafting in GDW? pigeon's or rat's or NONCE'S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sounder 9 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 john as i said today you need to set up your own business i say you need to look into it more best of luck i know you be well able for the job atb sounder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 John This type of large contract requires quite a bit of careful thought. First task is to work out your operating costs. Those should include the obvious stuff like insurance, but should also be based on what it would cost you to employ someone else to do the job; you never know what is waiting just around the corner, like sickness or something. Once you have your operating costs, you should be able to work out a price to do the job depending on what the client requires. Look at what they are asking for, and don't be afraid to offer something different if you think it's needed. Whatever you do, make sure you include a reasonable profit margin on the work. The whole point of being in business is to make profit, and you shouldn't be ashamed to admit that to anyone. If you need help, just ask. BTW folks, don't forget that John is in the ROI, which means that he may have different H&S requirements to the UK (like Safe Systems of Work (Method Statements), Risk Assessments, etc). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,252 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) What jail was you grafting in GDW? pigeon's or rat's or NONCE'S All 3! To be truthful, you just dont want to be told what humans are capable of doing, prison officers must be a different breed. At one prison I was called out to do a simple wasp nest in a cavity wall. I could have done it from the ground with a few poles no bother. But the head of prison works had rented me a cherry picker! It was parked outside of the prison waiting for me LOL, As I drove it through the prison gates I had to be escorted by a prison officer with a snarling spitting german shepherd at each corner of the cherry picker aswell as my usual escort,, so as to prevent it being used in an escape. The building with the wasp nest was nicknamed 'Bronson's palace' so a few people might know what sort of level of security is involved. They used to change the big 12v batteries on the alarms regular, could lamp with them nearly all night John, you mention the €40 fuel allowance per week, why are they stipulating this? sounds more of a position they are offering as opposed to inviting people/firms to tender for a contract. Edited February 13, 2010 by GD Waz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skellyb 8 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 THE most important thing with any contract is to stipulate when and how you will be paid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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