gonzalez 24 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) SEAGULLS FATHER FRED blaze was a smooth red dog, deep conker colour yes be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? was he a deep conker colour Edited March 1, 2011 by gonzalez Quote Link to post
ian96 12 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 SEAGULLS FATHER FRED be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? had full sister to joe tiny good on the brown dirt only 23 at the shoulder Quote Link to post
gonzalez 24 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) SEAGULLS FATHER FRED be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? had full sister to joe tiny good on the brown dirt only 23 at the shoulder did you get her off russell ? blaze was a powerful smooth red dog, killed alot of hares Edited March 1, 2011 by gonzalez Quote Link to post
ian96 12 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 SEAGULLS FATHER FRED be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? had full sister to joe tiny good on the brown dirt only 23 at the shoulder did you get her off russell ? blaze was a powerful smooth red dog, killed alot of hares the late gary back in 88 is that about right gonzales Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 SEAGULLS FATHER FRED be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? blaze was merlin`s litter brother, owened by george from liecester THERE WAS 3 DOGS IN MERLINS LITTER BRED IN 1980. THERE WAS A ROUGH DOG SOLD TO GEORGE FROM LEICESTER, BUT IT WAS NAMED "Swan"(PERHAPS THE NAME WAS CHANGED???... THIRD DOG WAS SOLD TO SMOG FROM LEICESTER, BUT IT WAS A RED SMOOTH DOG. Quote Link to post
gonzalez 24 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 SEAGULLS FATHER FRED be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? had full sister to joe tiny good on the brown dirt only 23 at the shoulder did you get her off russell ? blaze was a powerful smooth red dog, killed alot of hares the late gary back in 88 is that about right gonzales russ bred "joe" out of lily x merlin and kept "angel" for himself out of that litter, not gary, did you get tiny off russ when a pup ? Quote Link to post
gonzalez 24 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) SEAGULLS FATHER FRED be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? blaze was merlin`s litter brother, owened by george from liecester THERE WAS 3 DOGS IN MERLINS LITTER BRED IN 1980. THERE WAS A ROUGH DOG SOLD TO GEORGE FROM LEICESTER, BUT IT WAS NAMED "Swan"(PERHAPS THE NAME WAS CHANGED???... THIRD DOG WAS SOLD TO SMOG FROM LEICESTER, BUT IT WAS A RED SMOOTH DOG. george had blaze, smooth red dog, i saw him run many times, now i`m thinking that swan was bred with eve and produced blaze, you might be right george also owened swan Edited March 1, 2011 by gonzalez Quote Link to post
carp777 191 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i'm sure that Gary told me that Merlin. Swan, and Rebel were all out of the same litter, i think there is some confusion with "blaze" there was obviously more than one good dog out of this line with the name "blaze" i think most people are more familiar with m.b.'s (owner of bow) brother in law's "blaze" which was a rangy black and tan dog !! who used to tie his hare in knot's !! A very "boxy" type and very effective !!!!!!! Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i'm sure that Gary told me that Merlin. Swan, and Rebel were all out of the same litter, i think there is some confusion with "blaze" there was obviously more than one good dog out of this line with the name "blaze" i think most people are more familiar with m.b.'s (owner of bow) brother in law's "blaze" which was a rangy black and tan dog !! who used to tie his hare in knot's !! A very "boxy" type and very effective !!!!!!! THERE WERE 7 PUPS IN MERLINS LITTER, 3 DOGS, 4 BITCHES. BOTH MERLIN(sold at 11 months to the Finneys) & SWAN(sold to George of Leicester) WHO WERE ROUGH COATED & A SMOOTH RED DOG THAT WAS SOLD TO SMOG OF LEICESTER. THIS WAS THE 1st LITTER FROM FLY TO TOBY (THE HOOVER).THE CONFUSION USUALLY HAPPENS AS YEARS AGO PEOPLE WERENT AS CONCERNED WITH THE LINEAGE & BREEDING OF DOGS AS THEY ARE TODAY. MANY SIMPLY MATED WHAT THEY SAW AS A GOOD DOG TO ANOTHER GOOD DOG 1 Quote Link to post
gonzalez 24 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) i'm sure that Gary told me that Merlin. Swan, and Rebel were all out of the same litter, i think there is some confusion with "blaze" there was obviously more than one good dog out of this line with the name "blaze" i think most people are more familiar with m.b.'s (owner of bow) brother in law's "blaze" which was a rangy black and tan dog !! who used to tie his hare in knot's !! A very "boxy" type and very effective !!!!!!! THERE WERE 7 PUPS IN MERLINS LITTER, 3 DOGS, 4 BITCHES. BOTH MERLIN(sold at 11 months to the Finneys) & SWAN(sold to George of Leicester) WHO WERE ROUGH COATED & A SMOOTH RED DOG THAT WAS SOLD TO SMOG OF LEICESTER. THIS WAS THE 1st LITTER FROM FLY TO TOBY (THE HOOVER).THE CONFUSION USUALLY HAPPENS AS YEARS AGO PEOPLE WERENT AS CONCERNED WITH THE LINEAGE & BREEDING OF DOGS AS THEY ARE TODAY. MANY SIMPLY MATED WHAT THEY SAW AS A GOOD DOG TO ANOTHER GOOD DOG optimus info is spot on, george had swan, he and gaz bred swan with eve, and george had a pup which was blaze. long time ago. rebel was paul sutton`s rough brindle dog , nothing to do with merlins litter.... rebel was litter brother to fred`s bess, fred bred duke with bess a couple of times and produced two top class bitches, susie, kelly. gaz used merlin and rebel across eve a good few times, i had a half decent bitch called spider out of rebel and eve, after she got run over she was finished running and gaz bred with her. i had a fly x hoover bitch called taz, on a good day she could run a hare into the ground, but sometimes lost loads of ground on bends mid field, and made it hard work for herself Edited March 3, 2011 by gonzalez Quote Link to post
ian96 12 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 SEAGULLS FATHER FRED be like looking at your pup in a =year or so in my opinion the best stud dog ever this dog could graft mac turned down so much money for this dog a superb black dirt dog this dog as we know was put to eve producing three cracking bitches millie seagull and bow mb bow was put to dels dog producing three match dogs did you ever see blaze run ian think he was the brother to micky drews joe? had full sister to joe tiny good on the brown dirt only 23 at the shoulder did you get her off russell ? blaze was a powerful smooth red dog, killed alot of hares the late gary back in 88 is that about right gonzales russ bred "joe" out of lily x merlin and kept "angel" for himself out of that litter, not gary, did you get tiny off russ when a pup ? no not as a pup gary obtained it of russ and i bought it at 10 month old approx i sold it to md good little one Quote Link to post
ian96 12 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i'm sure that Gary told me that Merlin. Swan, and Rebel were all out of the same litter, i think there is some confusion with "blaze" there was obviously more than one good dog out of this line with the name "blaze" i think most people are more familiar with m.b.'s (owner of bow) brother in law's "blaze" which was a rangy black and tan dog !! who used to tie his hare in knot's !! A very "boxy" type and very effective !!!!!!! mrlin and rebel half brothers they matched each other Quote Link to post
carp777 191 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i'm sure that Gary told me that Merlin. Swan, and Rebel were all out of the same litter, i think there is some confusion with "blaze" there was obviously more than one good dog out of this line with the name "blaze" i think most people are more familiar with m.b.'s (owner of bow) brother in law's "blaze" which was a rangy black and tan dog !! who used to tie his hare in knot's !! A very "boxy" type and very effective !!!!!!! THERE WERE 7 PUPS IN MERLINS LITTER, 3 DOGS, 4 BITCHES. BOTH MERLIN(sold at 11 months to the Finneys) & SWAN(sold to George of Leicester) WHO WERE ROUGH COATED & A SMOOTH RED DOG THAT WAS SOLD TO SMOG OF LEICESTER. THIS WAS THE 1st LITTER FROM FLY TO TOBY (THE HOOVER).THE CONFUSION USUALLY HAPPENS AS YEARS AGO PEOPLE WERENT AS CONCERNED WITH THE LINEAGE & BREEDING OF DOGS AS THEY ARE TODAY. MANY SIMPLY MATED WHAT THEY SAW AS A GOOD DOG TO ANOTHER GOOD DOG optimus info is spot on, george had swan, he and gaz bred swan with eve, and george had a pup which was blaze. long time ago. rebel was paul sutton`s rough brindle dog , nothing to do with merlins litter.... rebel was litter brother to fred`s bess, fred bred duke with bess a couple of times and produced two top class bitches, susie, kelly. gaz used merlin and rebel across eve a good few times, i had a half decent bitch called spider out of rebel and eve, after she got run over she was finished running and gaz bred with her. i had a fly x hoover bitch called taz, on a good day she could run a hare into the ground, but sometimes lost loads of ground on bends mid field, and made it hard work for herself i'll stand corrected then lad's !!!! twas a long time ago!! if only i'd paid more attention, but i don't think anybody could have ever imagined the impact that these dog's would have on the coursing scene even now 30 odd year's later !!!! i can remember gaz saying bill finney was at paul sutton's house nearly every sunday trying to buy rebel !!!! i first met gary when my mate bought a first x saluki greyhound from him, this litter produced a very good bitch called maisie owned by mick the marathon runner from burton on trent !! can you lad's remember this litter of first x and maisie?? Quote Link to post
gonzalez 24 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i'm sure that Gary told me that Merlin. Swan, and Rebel were all out of the same litter, i think there is some confusion with "blaze" there was obviously more than one good dog out of this line with the name "blaze" i think most people are more familiar with m.b.'s (owner of bow) brother in law's "blaze" which was a rangy black and tan dog !! who used to tie his hare in knot's !! A very "boxy" type and very effective !!!!!!! THERE WERE 7 PUPS IN MERLINS LITTER, 3 DOGS, 4 BITCHES. BOTH MERLIN(sold at 11 months to the Finneys) & SWAN(sold to George of Leicester) WHO WERE ROUGH COATED & A SMOOTH RED DOG THAT WAS SOLD TO SMOG OF LEICESTER. THIS WAS THE 1st LITTER FROM FLY TO TOBY (THE HOOVER).THE CONFUSION USUALLY HAPPENS AS YEARS AGO PEOPLE WERENT AS CONCERNED WITH THE LINEAGE & BREEDING OF DOGS AS THEY ARE TODAY. MANY SIMPLY MATED WHAT THEY SAW AS A GOOD DOG TO ANOTHER GOOD DOG optimus info is spot on, george had swan, he and gaz bred swan with eve, and george had a pup which was blaze. long time ago. rebel was paul sutton`s rough brindle dog , nothing to do with merlins litter.... rebel was litter brother to fred`s bess, fred bred duke with bess a couple of times and produced two top class bitches, susie, kelly. gaz used merlin and rebel across eve a good few times, i had a half decent bitch called spider out of rebel and eve, after she got run over she was finished running and gaz bred with her. i had a fly x hoover bitch called taz, on a good day she could run a hare into the ground, but sometimes lost loads of ground on bends mid field, and made it hard work for herself i'll stand corrected then lad's !!!! twas a long time ago!! if only i'd paid more attention, but i don't think anybody could have ever imagined the impact that these dog's would have on the coursing scene even now 30 odd year's later !!!! i can remember gaz saying bill finney was at paul sutton's house nearly every sunday trying to buy rebel !!!! i first met gary when my mate bought a first x saluki greyhound from him, this litter produced a very good bitch called maisie owned by mick the marathon runner from burton on trent !! can you lad's remember this litter of first x and maisie?? saw rebel run a few times , and fly, but not merlin don`t remember maisie bitches litter or mick the marathon runner, lol met gaz at the cherio cafe, when all the lads ran the timberland Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 i'm sure that Gary told me that Merlin. Swan, and Rebel were all out of the same litter, i think there is some confusion with "blaze" there was obviously more than one good dog out of this line with the name "blaze" i think most people are more familiar with m.b.'s (owner of bow) brother in law's "blaze" which was a rangy black and tan dog !! who used to tie his hare in knot's !! A very "boxy" type and very effective !!!!!!! THERE WERE 7 PUPS IN MERLINS LITTER, 3 DOGS, 4 BITCHES. BOTH MERLIN(sold at 11 months to the Finneys) & SWAN(sold to George of Leicester) WHO WERE ROUGH COATED & A SMOOTH RED DOG THAT WAS SOLD TO SMOG OF LEICESTER. THIS WAS THE 1st LITTER FROM FLY TO TOBY (THE HOOVER).THE CONFUSION USUALLY HAPPENS AS YEARS AGO PEOPLE WERENT AS CONCERNED WITH THE LINEAGE & BREEDING OF DOGS AS THEY ARE TODAY. MANY SIMPLY MATED WHAT THEY SAW AS A GOOD DOG TO ANOTHER GOOD DOG optimus info is spot on, george had swan, he and gaz bred swan with eve, and george had a pup which was blaze. long time ago. rebel was paul sutton`s rough brindle dog , nothing to do with merlins litter.... rebel was litter brother to fred`s bess, fred bred duke with bess a couple of times and produced two top class bitches, susie, kelly. gaz used merlin and rebel across eve a good few times, i had a half decent bitch called spider out of rebel and eve, after she got run over she was finished running and gaz bred with her. i had a fly x hoover bitch called taz, on a good day she could run a hare into the ground, but sometimes lost loads of ground on bends mid field, and made it hard work for herself YOUR BITCH TAZ GONZALEZ, WAS SHE A FAWN BITCH FROM FLY X THE HOOVERS SECOND LITTER MATE?? Quote Link to post
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