What do you use

[Buster321c 1,010]

22 has more thump , but i 177 has more range . At the end of the day its shot placement that counts . Your gun will always outshot you , so its ability that really needs looking at , not calibre .

[aaronpigeonplucker 32]

my s400 is .177 and i have shot 4 rabbits, 6 pigeons and 4 squizzers with it so far. not one single wound shot. the trajectory of a .177 pellet is very flat but with scope reticles getting better this is soon becomeing not a problem for the .22. i like .177 but everyone has there prefferences. if you want the best of both worlds go for a .20 but there is limited pellet choice in this range. the old saying ".177 for feather and .22 for fur" is tosh. this saying most probably originated in the 50's when all air rifles were spring guns and putting out about 7fibs the .22's greater hitting area would have bben seen as some what of an advantage over the .177 as in those days the chest area was where they aimed for on rabbits and not the head. but the .22 has a loopy trajectory and because the "feather" in those days would be birds like starlings and sparrows the .177 flatter trajectory would be more effective against birds. nowadays a modern airgun is more than accurate enough to kill any quarry speices nomatter what the calibre

[zini 1,939]

Edgar,

 

Thanks for your reply buddy ,

 

Your points are very true buddy and i agree with you 100%

 

Please don’t think Im a NOOB to shooting though mate as I’ve done a bit of shooting in the past buddy.

 

All I said is

 

You will be able to kill humanly with a full power (11.5 FP) .177 to 55 yards if your shooting is up to it pal, and you can put a pellet in the kill area”.

 

This is a true fact as you admitted yourself. It can defo be done.

 

If you watch my 8 minute trailer that I am about to post you will see me doing it myself on a lased 52 metre (56.8 yards) jackdaw buddy.

 

Regarding me saying your gun isnt up to it or you cant shoot. NO your wrong.

 

I wouldnt say that pal even though i was already shooting vermin 6 years before you were born, plus i dont even know you pal, so that would be stupid and arrogant of me and im not like that.

 

In my clip i use a laser range finder to tell me the exact range to the quarry at distance.

 

The rest i know myself due to lots of range time and working on my shooting.

 

Regards and no hard feeling buddy

 

Si

Edited February 10, 2010 by zini

[festa 206]

well said si... edgar my friend one thing about zini he is true to his word he can shoot very well mate ive been out with him when he does and they say the camera never lies just go watch his trailer or even better buy 1 of his dvd's he's hit and killed some cracking long distance quarry , and the amount of people on here that have taken him up on his advice and by doing so have improved there own shooting you cant knock the bloke top shot,,top man ..

 

 

atb gary

[zini 1,939]

Thanks Gary for them kind comments buddy.

 

Si

[venomviper 129]

very well said si

and to be honest even i have learnt as well as my 9 year old son who after watching zini's dvd's has took alot in and is now shooting a theoben evo 177 and taking the bullseye everytime near enough. and zini is very safe on every shot as you can see from the dvd's he makes if he aint sure he wont take like alot of us on here and i have been a shooter for 26 years now and still learning something new every day. and like gary said top bloke and top shot.

 

shay

[zini 1,939]

Thank you Shay,

 

Very kind of you pal

 

Si

[stealthy1 3,964]

.22 for me, because I like the sound a Man sized pellet makes when it happy slaps a bunnie

[zini 1,939]

Happy for the pellet, but not so happy for the bunny

[R0G3R 11]

I went to a field yesterday. Shot 3 woody's that you see the feathers all over the place but they fly away. That was at 25m. I am using a Gamo Hunter 440 with VT-1 trigger, 667N GasRam and a Nikko Stirling 4-12x42 scope. I have cronied the gun with AA Fields 8.4gr 4.52 pellets at 780fps. Is it my shooting ability that sucks or does the gun have too little power?

 

With JSB Exacts 4.52mm 10.5gr pellets it runs a 690fps. I am very dissapointed in my shooting yesterday and I am starting to think about buying a new gun (another...)

 

Please help,

Roger!

[zini 1,939]

It’s definitely not the rifle Rog.

 

If you hit the birds and there were feathers all over the place you obviously hit the woodies in the wrong area.

 

When a woody is facing you, you need to shoot the head, neck or heart for a instant kill.

 

When a woody is facing away from you, you need to hit the back of the head or between the top of the shoulder blades.

 

If you miss and hit anywhere else you will most certainly wound the bird causing it distress.

 

Look at this link that I’ve just put up to help explain what I have just written

 

 

Zini

Edited February 11, 2010 by zini

[Edgar 1]

Fair enough Zini, no I do not think you are a noob as you put it. I know you use a laser range finder, I don't but 35 yards is my maximum range with my .22 springer, 25 if I'm using the open sights. They are no doubt useful for those long range shots as the quarry is less likely to be spooked so speed is not so important. I wouldn't trust myself to calculate the wind speed because at long range it is going to make a big difference. But the difference is if you have put in the practice and know your gun well as you obviously do then you are less likely to wound than someone who hasn't practiced shooting at half that distance. I liked the 6 years before I was born comment No no hard feelings.

[zini 1,939]

No problems Edgar,

 

You should know that im a old fa*t

 

No hard feelings

 

Si

[Phantom 631]

No problems Edgar,

 

You should know that im a old fa*t

 

No hard feelings

 

Si

 

If your an old fart, whats that make Davy?

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More to the point whats it make me?

Phantom

 

[zini 1,939]

An very old older fa*t LOL

 

You will get me in trouble Mr Phantom

 

Si