yellow belly 0 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 so i was trawling threw the deer stalking forum, and had a little moment of insparation...not often i have these im the first to admit, BUT i think i could be onto a winner! .....use a high seat! ... its good right? too high for them too sent you. above their usual visual checks when there alert. that just leaves...sound. well 2 outa three im happy with that. but what i want to know is...has anyone else tried this approach to rabbit shooting? im the first to admit im more likley to use this method in better (A LOT warmer!) weather. And finaly does anyone have plans for one of these before i make my attempt at making one myself, cheers guys!! Quote Link to post
silentshot1 206 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 John Darling makes a brief reference to a high seat for rabbiting in a video but I haven't actually seen one. Would love to see your results! Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 hi ya buddy yeah i agree it would be nice to see how you get on matey and 2 out of 3 aint bad for a first time in a high seat i have heard people doing it but it's very rare for rabbits but hey if it's working then good on ya buddy it all goes to a nice big pot for a sunday dinner matey venomviper Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 There was a recent post on the ferreting section where a guy was saying that he used a high seat. He was also saying that he was getting frustrated shooting the odd bunny when the ferreters were doing well. Have a look and ask him anyway. It was under something like ferreting season in U.K? Quote Link to post
8shot 192 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 i was walking round some woods on one of my permissions and found a high seat thingy so i sat up there for awhile and yes the rabbits were comming out and some were just 15/20yards away they didnt expect a thing but bare in mind i was sat nearly on top of a bury Quote Link to post
masmiffy 82 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 It does work for sure. Had 2 warrens in a meadow on my permission in range of a tree. It had a great place to get to only about 10 feet up. Sat there many a summer evening and potted a few. Quote Link to post
yellow belly 0 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 cheers guys. just having to trawl through the internet find some plans/images to work off. i'll keep you informed! masmiffy and 8shot... thanks for that, definatly an insentive to give this ago! Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) The Germans use high seats all the time to shoot deer and boar. Ive been sat up there before and seen fox taken and hare with larger calibre rifles. I know German hunters that have shot bunnies from them with .22 rimfire as well but not normally. There is nothing different from sitting in a high seat to sitting on the ground static hunting, apart from the elevation, and as we know static hunting works a treat. Im sure if the seat is in the right location, I.E near a warren you will bag up. Just remember that you cant aim smack on the cross hair though or you will miss or wound. Si Edited February 10, 2010 by zini Quote Link to post
JackReid 35 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Just remember that you cant aim smack on the cross hair though or you will miss or wound. Si Hi Si, What diid you mean to that last part? Are you mentioning the pellet trajectory or something? I have used hay bails and other elevated bits of farm area to get in a bit of an elevated suprise area and like the others said, if the warren is a busy one your onto a winner and its good fun! Jack Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 just bear in mind that rabbit are sensitive to movement from above( prey species mostly are). certainly a good idea for rimfire/hmr shooters high seats can be made quite cheaply and are more comfy than the wet ground( if making the seat open make sure the seat itself flips up,this will keep it dry) i would love to hear how you get on. atb michael Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Just remember that you cant aim smack on the cross hair though or you will miss or wound. Si Hi Si, What diid you mean to that last part? Are you mentioning the pellet trajectory or something? I have used hay bails and other elevated bits of farm area to get in a bit of an elevated suprise area and like the others said, if the warren is a busy one your onto a winner and its good fun! Jack Yes Jack When your zero is set from standing, kneeling etc at a target thats almost level, when you aim upwards ie: a squizzer in a tree you need to compensate for the POI shift. Same thing when aiming down hill your POI shifts slightly Phantom Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) Hi Jack, A lot of people get confused with the subject of shooting up a steep incline or down a steep decline with shooting up hill over distance. Here is the answer covered in 3 parts: Shooting up a very steep incline “IE almost vertical”. When you zero your rifle your barrel is almost parallel to the ground, so as you zero the rifle gravity effects the under side of the pellet pulling it down towards the floor in a curved arc causing a trajectory. If you are shooting up a VERY STEEP INCLINE then the gravity is affecting the base of the pellet and pulling it down to the floor in a different way to as normal. Because shooting upwards or down wards doesn’t have as much gravity effect as shooting horizontal, the pellet which as been zeroed for horizontal shooting fly’s high, as the gravity isn’t pulling it down so much. In this case you need to shoot lower than the cross hairs so that you POI is on the target area. Shooting down a very steep decline This is as above and you need to aim low. Shooting up a hill over long distance When shooting up a hill but over distance which will give you a not so steep angle to your target you need to aim slightly high. This is to counter something called SLANT RANGE. Slant range explained. If you were to tape out a target at 50 metres on the ground and then shoot at it in no wind after you zero at 50 metres you would hit the target every time if you’re a good shot. Now imagine that at 50 metres someone puts up a scaffolding 40 metres high and sits the target on the top of it. Due to maths and trigonometry the target is now further away than 50 metres and is probable about 60 metres away so further than your zero. To counter the extra range to your target and the extra gravity pull downwards you need to aim high. I hope this explains my earlier comment pal. Si Edited February 10, 2010 by zini 1 Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) That it does. Just nicely Si Phantom Edited February 10, 2010 by Phantom Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Cheers Tony Si Quote Link to post
Edgar 1 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 You can buy metal high seats and I would think this would be best, because although it's easy enough to build a wooden high seat once you have set them up its a lot of hassle to move them whereas the metal ones are fairly easy to move.I think you will want to move it because as with any hide after a few sessions in it wild things start to realise it poses a threat to them and will stay out of the way. If you can move your high seat it's not a problem. Good luck Quote Link to post
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