Spare a quid or 2

[Kay 3,709]

I wasnt going to comment on this thread but i do find this comment rather hypocritical in view of the fact '' lurcher link '' that i know is your baby are to benefit from HALF the money that was raised from the sales of the calendar & the fact that such a lot of these working dog lads gave items to hold an auction to fund the printing

 

The working lads & lasses on here deserve a pat on the back for that well done lads your hard work & generocity is payed back with this comment

 

I'm very conscious of the fact some of the "working dog folk" look down on us rescue peeps as poor relations and think we're worth taking the piss out of -

[Kay 3,709]

You have seriously f****d me off big time with your comments

[6pack 60]

You have seriously f****d me off big time with your comments

 

I don't understand which bit has you angry Kay?

[Kay 3,709]

I think (having read through all of this) it's important to realise that:

 

a) Lisa of Greyhound Gap did not put this post on THL. someone else copied a mass email she'd sent out to GG members and put it on, obviously thinking it would help raise a couple of quid towards the vet bills.

 

 

b ) what Lisa has said on Gap is:

We were going to hold a Valentines Photo Competition but decided to hold it with all proceeds going to help Daisie Mae.

 

So no committee members or Trustees of Gap have asked any of THL folk for a donation for Daisy Mae's treatment, it's just a well intentioned person who thought they might like to help a dog in need. Whether Lisa is pro or anti hunting has absolutely no bearing on the pup's treatment.

 

Some of the things that have been said about Gap's fund raising and finances on THL are well out of order though People need to understand how a charity works and what they are allowed and aren't allowed to do with specified donations before they start casting slurs

 

I've been a member of THL and various other similar sites for many years and I've seen all this kick off before just because someone decides to stick a knife in and have a go at someone. However, I believe the saying "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" should be remembered in this instance!

 

I'm very conscious of the fact some of the "working dog folk" look down on us rescue peeps as poor relations and think we're worth taking the piss out of - maybe what you don't realise is that a lot of us pick up the pieces after some of the "lads" f**k up and we take their dogs in- some in states you wouldn't believe, and try to nurse them back to health and find them new homes. We don't do this for money or "glory" or even so someone will say "thank you" - we do it for the dogs.

 

I've owned Lurchers for thirty years now, worked them and rescued them throughout that period and I reckon I know a little bit about them - mainly from many friends who've let me learn from them and their dogs. Some of these people are Big Names in the Lurcher world but they still help us raise funds to help out dogs which need us, rather than think of us as not worth bothering with. These are people I'm honoured to call my friends and I would pull out all the stops to help them should they need it. However, I would do the same to help a pup who's seriously ill............maybe I'm a mug, maybe I spend too much time worrying about how I can fit another pts case dog in my rescue, how we can afford to pay for an operation...........but I certainly wouldn't be any other way

[chartpolski 23,263]

I had a deer/grey pup get Parvo Virus in the early '80s; after three days of intensive treatment, and a huge vet bill,(paid by me, no insurance back then), it died anyway. My concern here is that the charity is commiting a huge sum of it's limited resources to a 10 week old pup, that even if it recovers, will still need to be found a home. What about all the otherwise healthy dogs they have, would the money not be better spent on them ? Are hearts over ruling heads here ?

 

Cheers.

[Tallyho 181]

I had a deer/grey pup get Parvo Virus in the early '80s; after three days of intensive treatment, and a huge vet bill,(paid by me, no insurance back then), it died anyway. My concern here is that the charity is commiting a huge sum of it's limited resources to a 10 week old pup, that even if it recovers, will still need to be found a home. What about all the otherwise healthy dogs they have, would the money not be better spent on them ? Are hearts over ruling heads here ?

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

 

Totally agree !! surly it would be cheaper to have the pup put to sleep and spend what ever money they have on the other healthy dogs.

[Foxgun Tom 75]

The latter quote has fecked me of as well

 

"I'm very conscious of the fact some of the "working dog folk" look down on us rescue peeps as poor relations and think we're worth taking the piss out of -"

 

I donated a couple of items to two very good cause's in an auction run by Kay and others on the HL I travelled at my own expense to drop items of personally even visited Englandshire I am certainly not one of the "Working Dog Folk" who looks down on rescue peeps (most do a terrific job ) and neither are the people who who successfully bidded for the items! and I certainly don't think any charity is worth taking the piss out off I only question the morality and practice's of this one after I seen the appeal I'll be more selective of my charities next time but I'll always help BADA-UK and Kay if you decide to do a similar fundraiser for a different group of charities next year I'd still like to help out

 

Tom

 

to make sure both charities benefitted

I wasnt going to comment on this thread but i do find this comment rather hypocritical in view of the fact '' lurcher link '' that i know is your baby are to benefit from HALF the money that was raised from the sales of the calendar & the fact that such a lot of these working dog lads gave items to hold an auction to fund the printing

 

The working lads & lasses on here deserve a pat on the back for that well done lads your hard work & generocity is payed back with this comment

 

I'm very conscious of the fact some of the "working dog folk" look down on us rescue peeps as poor relations and think we're worth taking the piss out of -

[6pack 60]

The latter quote has fecked me of as well

 

"I'm very conscious of the fact some of the "working dog folk" look down on us rescue peeps as poor relations and think we're worth taking the piss out of -"

 

I donated a couple of items to two very good cause's in an auction run by Kay and others on the HL I travelled at my own expense to drop items of personally even visited Englandshire I am certainly not one of the "Working Dog Folk" who looks down on rescue peeps (most do a terrific job ) and neither are the people who who successfully bidded for the items! and I certainly don't think any charity is worth taking the piss out off I only question the morality and practice's of this one after I seen the appeal I'll be more selective of my charities next time but I'll always help BADA-UK and Kay if you decide to do a similar fundraiser for a different group of charities next year I'd still like to help out

 

Tom

 

to make sure both charities benefitted

I wasnt going to comment on this thread but i do find this comment rather hypocritical in view of the fact '' lurcher link '' that i know is your baby are to benefit from HALF the money that was raised from the sales of the calendar & the fact that such a lot of these working dog lads gave items to hold an auction to fund the printing

 

The working lads & lasses on here deserve a pat on the back for that well done lads your hard work & generocity is payed back with this comment

 

I'm very conscious of the fact some of the "working dog folk" look down on us rescue peeps as poor relations and think we're worth taking the piss out of -

 

I think the word being missed here is SOME.

No one can argue that there are SOME working type that give others a bad name and help give a negative image of the whole working community?

[Annmarie09 5]

Woah, I am quite shocked by how excited some folk have got over this thread! Gap have chosen to treat this pup, I have my own opinions on that same as everyone else does one way or another, but we aren't there and we don't know the exact circumstances, or what advice their vet has given so how can any of us judge?

 

One thing I do know is that Gap do great work and that they cannot use the building fund for vet fees, so there's no point in keeping harping on about that. It is nothing like your own personal bank account. If people have stated on donations that the money is for the buildings then that is what Gap must use it for.

 

Many charities don't give dogs to working homes, not just Gap, but they are all happy to clean up the mess left by SOME working people after their dogs have outlived their usefulness. For example, the greyhound dumped over a high wall into a derelict factory site here recently, there was no doubt at all it where it was from. Be clear here, I am NOT saying that all working homes are bad, that's like saying all pet homes are bad. There are genuine dog lovers who know their stuff in both. But there are also idiots in both who treat dogs like a toy they can buy one day and chuck in the bin the next.

 

If you don't want to donate fair enough, give your money to cancer research or whatever, but there's no need to criticise an excellent charity.

Edited February 8, 2010 by Annmarie09

[Scallywag 78]

People please don't be offended. Us Lurcher Link people are very appreciative of the support from THL, not just the calendar either but other kinds of support and collaboration. We've made sure people who use the LL forum know about the donation from the THL calendar to LL.

Things seem to be getting heated very quickly tonight and not just on this forum! Lots of LL members are members here too and value the relationship between the two.

[lurcherlass 5]

Kay - what exactly are you pissed off about? It's a fact that some working dog people will have nowt to do with rescue - I didn't say ALL but it is true that some are like that.

 

It's also true that some so-called working lads aren't even welcome on sites such as THL because of the shite way they treat their dogs, we all know they exist and we could all do without them BUT there are some fantastic people who will go out of their way to help us and I am forever indebted to them

 

Don't be putting words into my mouth, I'm NOT slagging THL off, I have many friends on here. Yes the lasses on here have done a calendar from which we have benefited from the sales (I've bought 6 ! ) and I've told them how grateful we are - but that doesn't mean I'm going to sit down and shut up if someone starts trying to slag us off.

 

FGT I've known you for many years and I'm not sure why you've decided I'm having a go at you. I'm not. I've valued your support in fund raising from the time we met on Moochers and at no point have I slagged YOU off.I'm not entirely sure why you're getting irate with me

 

 

All I'm saying is that Lisa has not asked THL folks for money to help this pup and IF the rescue chose to spend ££££ on getting the pup healthy, that's their business.

 

Lurcher Link (yes, MY baby) regularly spends hundreds of pounds on dogs with broken legs, some caused by working accidents, getting them fit and well and then rehoming them - that's what we do. It'd be nice if every dog that came to us was healthy and needed nothing doing to it before it was rehomed - we might make a PROFIT but as it happens, we manage to lurch from one day to the next, paying the vet bills and rehoming over 100 dogs each year.

Edited February 9, 2010 by lurcherlass

[Foxgun Tom 75]

First of all any post on this forum is and the poster is looking for some affirmation or reply to their post I don't agree with the post that starts this thread simple! and I've stated my reason's why!

 

Lurcher Lass!!

You and your dog rescue are to be commended in the fact! that you have done your utmost for many years to rehabilitate and re-home probably thousands of dogs over the years and long may it continue I can't see anyone better at the helm of that particular ship and thank you for the personal comment "I've valued your support in fund raising from the time we met on Moochers" its very kind.

 

Where we do differ is on the comment "I'm very conscious of the fact some of the "working dog folk" look down on us rescue peeps as poor relations and think we're worth taking the piss out of -"

 

I suggest that the dogs that do come in maltreated, neglected abandoned or injured to you are not the result of the true working dog enthusiast but from idiots who have no respect for their charge's and the same people should'nt have the right to keep a hamster never mind a dog . These type of people don't deserve the title of "working dog folk"

 

I also know of no true working dog person who would look down on people like you and your organisation or one that they would see the merit in taking the piss! You also mention

 

"so-called working lads aren't even welcome on sites such as THL because of the shite way they treat their dogs" That's where we agree and that's where a problem lies "so-called working lads"

 

 

Tom

 

Kay - what exactly are you pissed off about? It's a fact that some working dog people will have nowt to do with rescue - I didn't say ALL but is true that some are like that.

 

It's also true that some so-called working lads aren't even welcome on sites such as THL because of the shite way they treat their dogs, we all know they exist and we could all do without them BUT there are some fantastic people who will go out of their way to help us and I am forever indebted to them

 

Don't be putting words into my mouth, I'm NOT slagging THL off, I have many friends on here. Yes the lasses on here have done a calendar from which we have benefited from the sales (I've bought 6 ! ) and I've told them how grateful we are - but that doesn't mean I'm going to sit down and shut up if someone starts trying to slag us off.

 

FGT I've known you for many years and I'm not sure why you've decided I'm having a go at you. I'm not. I've valued your support in fund raising from the time we met on Moochers and at no point have I slagged YOU off.I'm not entirely sure why you're getting irate with me

 

 

All I'm saying is that Lisa has not asked THL folks for money to help this pup and IF the rescue chose to spend ££££ on getting the pup healthy, that's their business.

 

Lurcher Link (yes, MY baby) regularly spends hundreds of pounds on dogs with broken legs, some caused by working accidents, getting them fit and well and then rehoming them - that's what we do. It'd be nice if every dog that came to us was healthy and needed nothing doing to it before it was rehomed - we might make a PROFIT but as it happens, we manage to lurch from one day to the next, paying the vet bills and rehoming over 100 dogs each year.

Edited February 9, 2010 by Foxgun Tom

[FightTheBan 1,147]

What a f#cking joke.

At the age of 15 i had a £2000 vet bill for my working springer which i paid in full on my own, i didnt ask for any donations.

Never again, if the cost of treatment outweighs the cost of a new pup...PTS. End of.

If they can pay it themselves fair doos.

Their plea sounds like an RSPCA RSPB pledge to tug at the heart strings. Shamefull.

FTB

[lurcherlass 5]

I suggest that the dogs that do come in maltreated, neglected abandoned or injured to you are not the result of the true working dog enthusiast but from idiots who have no respect for their charge's and the same people should'nt have the right to keep a hamster never mind a dog . These type of people don't deserve the title of "working dog folk"

 

Absolutely Tom- they don't but sadly that's what they call themselves and everyone suffers as a result because Joe Public's impression of a working dog owner is someone who treats their dog badly and abandons it when it's no longer needed or is a viable concern

 

Those are the type of "working dog owners" who do laugh at us for picking up the pieces of their mess and spending money on sorting it.Maybe we are mugs, but at the end of the day it's all about finding somewhere for the dogs to spend the rest of their lives in comfort. Sometimes all it takes is some decent food and some tlc, but sometimes it's expensive vet treatment that's needed and we try to do whatever we can in order to make a difference.

 

I've also taken dogs in from really nice, decent working homes who've not been able to afford treatment for a dog's injury and don't want to see the dog pts. OK, it may take a few hundred quid which some folks might think is "wasted" but no-one forces people to donate to our cause and the end result is a dog in a home, living out the rest of its days happily.

 

We have also taken some in who've needed one of their legs amputating, which I know a lot of folk don't agree with - but you should see them flying along when we have a tripod race at our fundraising days They honestly don't care they're missing a limb.

 

We also take in neglected / abused dogs from "pet" homes of course, I'm not saying all the bad cases are from working owners, just trying to show that we work WITH you chaps I am not The Enemy, granted I don't really get the chance to work my own dogs nowadays because I don't have the time. I have 30 odd dogs here to look after and there's normally just me and a volunteer or two if I'm lucky or one of my kids who helps out. But I started off with just the one Lurcher, going out rabbiting etc and then took a stray in and it all snowballed over time It's now my way of life, my unpaid job, Although to be totally honest, it makes no difference to me whether I get slated or approved of as long as I can carry on taking in dogs who need help and get them rehomed again.

[chartpolski 23,263]

Lurcherlass, to me, it appears you have drawn your rescue centre into a thread that has nothing to do with it !! No one has said anything bad about your work ! The discussion appears to be about a charity spending a huge amount of money on one pup. The charity has already committed to spending the money and is now casting around for donations. Even charities have to make decissions on how they spend the donations best; and it appears to most on here that they are making a mistake in this case. Yes we feel sorry for thepup, but the greater good must prevail ?

 

Cheers.