silencer modifications

[RiffRaff 5]

being one of the people that cant leave things alone . i thought i would see what was inside my standard air arms silencer. i was sick of people with Weihrauch saying that it was to loud:mad:,, cant argue because it was compaired to theirs. but been a bit short of funds had a poke around the net to see what was inside a Weihrauch an what do yah know there aint much more in the Weihrauch compaired to the standard air arms. so a trip to one of those wonderfull pound shop type places for some hair rollers an some scouring pads.an a rake about in a box of washers that have been in the shed for ever. i came up with the bits to make the internals that are in a Weihrauch silencer but to fit in the tube from my air arms. i thought about it clipping the bits i was putting in but hey if it works it works. if not go back to the other bits an tell them to get stuffed so to speak. an get a Weihrauch silencer for the S400.well would you belive it it works was well happy. it dont clip the washers when you fire it. i got a mate to shoot it while i stood 35 yards in front of the gun an way to the left(not advised but i trust the guy) with the air arms bits you could hear the crack from the muzzle. but jeeze when i swapped the internals over there was no crack from the muzzle just a phffffuttt an the the pellet wizzing past. all in all i reckon it was the best £3:50 i have spent this week end

 

photo of air arms bits

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/RiffRaff-KuH/hw90/bitsNbobs/air-arms-internals.jpg

 

 

photo of new bits

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f124/RiffRaff-KuH/hw90/bitsNbobs/new-internals.jpg

 

shoot safe

 

Niel

[zini 1,939]

Hi Neil,

 

Great post pal.

 

I would be very interested if you could please do some video footage of the difference between the old and new customised silencers in regards to noise etc.

 

Zini

[Phantom 631]

Oy tw@t noticed you didn't ask me to fire it for yah while you stood downrange dont yah trust me

 

No, neither would I really (it would be just yay toooo tempting)

 

Obviously as you aint got a hole in your forehead, it wasn't Rodders either

 

Si,

Its a bit awkward trying to get the difference in sound across on video

Have a look on you tube for silencer reviews there's a guy there who tried to do it. I didn't notice any difference in his comparisons

 

Phantom

[RiffRaff 5]

Oy tw@t noticed you didn't ask me to fire it for yah while you stood downrange dont yah trust me

 

No, neither would I really (it would be just yay toooo tempting)

 

Obviously as you aint got a hole in your forehead, it wasn't Rodders either

 

Si,

Its a bit awkward trying to get the difference in sound across on video

Have a look on you tube for silencer reviews there's a guy there who tried to do it. I didn't notice any difference in his comparisons

 

Phantom

they guy an the net only fires em with out pellets tony. but next time you are going out will pop up to yours with all the bits an see what you think. as you say dont think you will get much of an idea from video

 

Si

i only have an old video camera. but reckon i could sort summat out even if i have to use me N95 fone im sure Tony would lend a hand even if its just to shoot with me stood down range(remider to self renew life insurance)

 

 

shoot safe

Niel

[zini 1,939]

Cheers buddy

[sibaldib 6]

Interesting post, as I fired my AA S400 today after using my HW100 for a couple of days. I fired it immediately after checking zero on the HW100 and the difference in noise was amazing.

 

I definitely would like to quieten the S400 down a bit, but don't want to spend £50. This could be worth investigating.

 

Chers

 

Sib

[RiffRaff 5]

Interesting post, as I fired my AA S400 today after using my HW100 for a couple of days. I fired it immediately after checking zero on the HW100 and the difference in noise was amazing.

 

I definitely would like to quieten the S400 down a bit, but don't want to spend £50. This could be worth investigating.

 

Chers

 

Sib

 

sib

 

if you want i will measure the the size of all three bits i put in my air arms tube. then you can just cut them to size. the washers i used had a 8mm hole in but going to a fixings stockist in the week to see if i can get some with a 6mm hole in an see if that makes any differance you never know i only shoot .177 so will have a bit of clearance

 

shoot safe

Niel

Edited February 8, 2010 by RiffRaff

[zini 1,939]

Hi RiffRaff,

 

Your post got me thinking today about my SAK silencer that i use on my R10.

 

I took in apart to find only 1 piece inside it, so thought that i would try abit of your idea to see if i can improve on it any.

 

I used some kitchen cleaner and cut it to size, then rapped it in celetape to hold it firmly in place before putting the outer cover back on.

 

When i fired it WOW the difference was amazing pal, so its staying on from now on.

 

Cheers Budddy for the idea

 

Si

Edited February 8, 2010 by zini

[RiffRaff 5]

Hi RiffRaff,

 

Your post got me thinking today about my SAK silencer that i use on my R10.

 

I took in apart to find only 1 piece inside it, so thought that i would try abit of your idea to see if i can improve on it any.

 

I used some kitchen cleaner and cut it to size, then rapped it in celetape to hold it firmly in place before putting the outer cover back on.

 

When i fired it WOW the difference was amazing pal, so its staying on from now on.

 

Cheers Budddy for the idea

 

Si

 

 

Si

glad it helped just goes to show the that the simplest things can make a huge differance :D,, the other thing im thinking of trying. the ally mesh that you get for using with car filler wrapped round the the springs in the old AA bits an see what it does,, homebrew developement in full swing now got 4 mates with AA silencers that need doing now such is life,, now were did i put my hair curlers :whistling:

 

Niel

[beggsybluestaff 1]

who knows whats inside a hw mod id look but not sure how to take apart

[Phantom 631]

Hey Niel,

 

I still cant get my AA silencer open

 

Fancy doing it for me?

 

Phantom

[RiffRaff 5]

who knows whats inside a hw mod id look but not sure how to take apart

 

 

7mm allen key from the front end will open it,, then just tap the parts out. but if you look at the photo of new bits in my post. you will see the bits concerned. only differance between the bits i put in and the HW mod is HW use some kind of thick felt type stuff an i couldnt find aything similar in the house

 

shoot safe

 

Niel

Edited February 8, 2010 by RiffRaff

[zini 1,939]

All i can think of is that the muzzle blast sound that gets sent into the silencer sort of gets lost in the fibres of the kitchen cleaning pad and dulls the sound that comes out the end.

 

I would go as far to say that my SAK now is half better than it was before the green stuff.

 

Si

Edited February 8, 2010 by zini

[sibaldib 6]

 

if you want i will measure the the size of all three bits i put in my air arms tube. then you can just cut them to size. the washers i used had a 8mm hole in but going to a fixings stockist in the week to see if i can get some with a 6mm hole in an see if that makes any differance you never know i only shoot .177 so will have a bit of clearance

 

shoot safe

Niel

Cheers Niel - I'd appreciate that. Then I can have a play around

 

Sib

[maty j 6]

HW have very small holes In the washers too so the pellet can only just get through. TBH, I think most of the top silencers are based on that design. I know the logun QGS Is allthough the baffles are more substantual being made of ali. My Twink silencer Is the smae design and again has metal baffles rather than the cheap hair curlers that can break.