hogs head 19 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 yea the brother had one he went to work one day dog got out over a 8 foot run out on to the street killed two dogs brother got phone call about him he rang me to get him went up the road he,r he his coming down the road got hit with a car got up gave him self a shake not a bother out of him then stared going at people got him went home got the 12bore and he did not get up after that they are shit only thing they are good for is shitting and bitting people fooking shoot the c**ts a danger to children [/quote Wow, that is a very honest post and to me, it says it all. The ones I have seen locally are aggressive and usually towing a chav behind them, and the dog usually looks heavier than the chav. Scary prospect. Earlier in the posts, I think Genuine's posts, there are descriptions of their type/behaviour. I know these type of descriptions are general and usually lifted from internet sites, but even reading them and assuming they are reasonably honest descriptions, it makes me feel that they would be a liability to own or be around. WHAT HAVE BULLS DONE TO KIDS AND GROWN UPS IN THE LAST FEW YEAR YET THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BULL X GREYHOUNDS A BOUT wake up and smell the coffee i think your full of s..t :wankerzo4: Quote Link to post
Wxm 1,638 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 if a few people are interested in trying this cross why dont ya's go for it. you'll need 5 or 6 people, each have a pup and see how you go from there. all chip in for a bitch - stud - and up keep of the pups until ready to go. then let everyone know how you get on. best of luck Quote Link to post
Endgame 68 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 yea the brother had one he went to work one day dog got out over a 8 foot run out on to the street killed two dogs brother got phone call about him he rang me to get him went up the road he,r he his coming down the road got hit with a car got up gave him self a shake not a bother out of him then stared going at people got him went home got the 12bore and he did not get up after that they are shit only thing they are good for is shitting and bitting people fooking shoot the c**ts a danger to children IVE WORKED IN KENNELS & BEEN AROUND ALL TYPES OF DOGS,SO CALLED DEVIL DOGS,THE LOT. BUT WHEN I LOOK IN AN AKITAS EYES I REALLY CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND WHATS GOING ON BEHIND THOSE EYES??? I APPRECIATE THAT MUCH HAS 2 DO WITH THE OWNER SO [NO TEXT TALK] BREEDING THIS CROSS IS GONNA HAVE 2 VET POTENTIAL OWNERS VERY CAREFULLY. I SEEN ONE ATTACK A GREYHOUND LAST YEAR,I HAD 2 THROTTLE IT WITH A CHAIN LEASH & THE OWNERS HELP,IM 17 STONE & THE STRENGTH OF THIS THING WAS INCREDIBLE. AS PUPS THEY LOOK LIKE WEE TEDDY BEARS, BUT FULL GROWN THEY ARE A BEAST/ THE GREYHOUND HAD 2 BE PUT DOWN BY THE WAY. [/quote Wow, that is a very honest post and to me, it says it all. The ones I have seen locally are aggressive and usually towing a chav behind them, and the dog usually looks heavier than the chav. Scary prospect. Earlier in the posts, I think Genuine's posts, there are descriptions of their type/behaviour. I know these type of descriptions are general and usually lifted from internet sites, but even reading them and assuming they are reasonably honest descriptions, it makes me feel that they would be a liability to own or be around. Quote Link to post
littlefish 586 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 yea the brother had one he went to work one day dog got out over a 8 foot run out on to the street killed two dogs brother got phone call about him he rang me to get him went up the road he,r he his coming down the road got hit with a car got up gave him self a shake not a bother out of him then stared going at people got him went home got the 12bore and he did not get up after that they are shit only thing they are good for is shitting and bitting people fooking shoot the c**ts a danger to children IVE WORKED IN KENNELS & BEEN AROUND ALL TYPES OF DOGS,SO CALLED DEVIL DOGS,THE LOT. BUT WHEN I LOOK IN AN AKITAS EYES I REALLY CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND WHATS GOING ON BEHIND THOSE EYES??? I APPRECIATE THAT MUCH HAS 2 DO WITH THE OWNER SO [NO TEXT TALK] BREEDING THIS CROSS IS GONNA HAVE 2 VET POTENTIAL OWNERS VERY CAREFULLY. I SEEN ONE ATTACK A GREYHOUND LAST YEAR,I HAD 2 THROTTLE IT WITH A CHAIN LEASH & THE OWNERS HELP,IM 17 STONE & THE STRENGTH OF THIS THING WAS INCREDIBLE. AS PUPS THEY LOOK LIKE WEE TEDDY BEARS, BUT FULL GROWN THEY ARE A BEAST/ THE GREYHOUND HAD 2 BE PUT DOWN BY THE WAY. [/quote Wow, that is a very honest post and to me, it says it all. The ones I have seen locally are aggressive and usually towing a chav behind them, and the dog usually looks heavier than the chav. Scary prospect. Earlier in the posts, I think Genuine's posts, there are descriptions of their type/behaviour. I know these type of descriptions are general and usually lifted from internet sites, but even reading them and assuming they are reasonably honest descriptions, it makes me feel that they would be a liability to own or be around. I will put my hand up, as the owner of smaller dogs (and in my own interests), I cross the road sharpish when I see one out in public. Quote Link to post
Coyotehunter 689 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Genuine , Just a couple of Questions, why did you ask for peoples opinions and then shoot them down when you didn't like what they were saying? it seems to me that you have already made your mind up on this cross, so why bother getting in to arguments about it, if you hadn't made your mind up you wouldn't be so dissmisive of anyone that has anything derogatory to say about them. Anyway my brother has bred Akitas and its true what few lads have stated already they're not the stablist of dogs temperament wise, his bitch was great but a dog pup out of the same bitch was nick named crocodile !!! for obvious reasons and is now hunting bears up in heaven even though you probably don't want to read it, and this is about pure Akitas not cross breds so maybe not as relevent but i'd have thought relevent enough, here is a list of "problems" Akitas are prone to; Cheers and good luck with your Endevours , you'll need it Acquired Myathenia Gravis Note: Akita Dog at Highest Relative RiskAcquired MG is an autoimmune disease in which the body's immune system mistakenly attacks and destroys special proteins (acetylcholine receptors) located on the muscle surface where the nerve attaches to the muscle. Muscle weakness is the distinctive feature of MG. The muscles affected are voluntary or striated muscles and different muscle groups can affect different dogs, making clinical signs different as well and diagnosis of MG can be difficult. A common sign is regurgitation. Excessive salivation as well as multiple attempts at swallowing food may be another signal. A high-pitch bark or no bark may also be another sign as well as the dog appearing to sleep with his eyes open as the eyelid muscles may be too weak. A very severe form of MG has also been described in which there is a rapid onset of muscle weakness involving esophagus and respiratory muscles. Treatment requires intensive care including ventilatory support. Additional information: Akita Club of America Bloat or Gastric Torsion (Gastric Dilatation Volvulus (GDV)) This condition is caused by a twisting of the stomach and thus trapping the stomach contents and gases resulting in a rapid swelling of the abdomen accompanied by pain and eventual death if untreated. It is a true emergency, requiring immediate veterinary action. This condition is most often found in large deep chested breeds. Anyone owning a deep chested breed, susceptible to Bloat should be prepared to handle the emergency procedures necessary, including having readily available the name and phone number of emergency clinics and/or who to call after hours.Symptoms can be subtle. You should learn to recognize them: Continuous pacing and/or lying down in odd places Salivating, panting, whining Unable to get comfortable Acting agitated Unproductive vomiting or retching (may produce frothy foamy vomit in small quantities) Excessive drooling, usually accompanied by retching noises Swelling in abdominal area (may or may not be noticeable) If ANY combination of these symptoms are noticed, CALL YOUR VET and get the dog there as fast as possible. Bloat is LIFE-THREATENING. For more information on what you can do in the case of a Bloat emergency, see First Aid for Bloatin the Health & Nutrition section of Canada's Guide to Dogs. Eye Problems Cataracts — Like humans, dogs can get cataracts. If the dog is in good health, cataracts can be surgically removed usually with good results.Entropion — Conformational defect where eyelid margin inverts, or rolls inward, toward the eye causing eyelashes and hair to rub against the cornea resulting in ocular irritation. Glaucoma — Glaucoma is a leading cause of blindness in dogs and is the result of increased fluid pressure within the eye. If the pressure can not be reduced, there will be permanent damage to the retina and optic nerve resulting in visual impairment. Complete blindness can occur within 24 hours or can occur slowly over weeks or months and is usually very painful. Glaucoma is an emergency. Treatment must be started as soon as possible if your dog's sight is to be saved. Irreversible damage to the retina and optic nerve occur within a few hours of significant elevation of the intraocular pressure. Microphthalmia — Affected dogs have prominent third eyelids and small eyes which appear recessed in the eye socket. This is often associated with other eye abnormalities, including defects of the cornea, anterior chamber, lens and/or retina. Microphthalmia is also seen with coloboma - a cleft in a portion of the eye, particularly the iris. Microphthalmia with cataracts is seen in the Akita breed. Puppies with microphthalmia with cataracts usually have some visual impairment. The cataracts are unpredictable and may be progressive resulting in a worsening of vision, or they may mature and be reabsorbed, resulting in improved vision. The condition is apparent in puppies once they open their eyes. The affected eyes will appear smaller than normal and recessed, the third eyelid will be more prominent as well. Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA) — PRA is a family of diseases involving the gradual deterioration of the retina. In the early stages of the disease, an affected dog becomes nightblind and cannot see well in dim lighting. As the disease progresses, daytime vision also fails. Provided that the affected dog's environment remains constant, an affected dog can adapt quite well to this handicap. As the affected dog's vision fails, the pupils become increasingly dilated, causing a "shine" to his eyes. The lens of the eyes may also become cloudy, or opaque, resulting in a cataract. It should be noted that while some breeds are affected early in life, others can develop PRA much later. Retinal Dysplasia — This is an abnormality in the development of the retina. There may be no visual defect in affected dogs, therefore, will only be found when the eye is examined. It is a condition that is thought to be inherited in a number of breeds. The condition may also be acquired as an injury or due to viral infections, toxins and nutritional disorders. All breeding dogs should be examined annually by a certified veterinary ophthalmologist. Most responsible breeders will register with the Canine Eye Registration Foundation (CERF) and receive a CERF number for their dog. If you are adopting a puppy, ensure that the breeder provides you with copies of certifications for both the sire and dam. In addition, you should ask to see a copy of the paperwork that was forwarded to CERF because the form may report on other issues that may not deny the dog a CERF number but could be of interest to you. Hip Dysplasia Hip DysplasiaCanine Hip Dysplasia afflicts millions of dogs each year and can result in debilitating orthopaedic disease of the hip. It is caused when the femoral head does not fit properly in the hip socket, causing instability of the joint. Over time, this malformation can cause degenerative joint disease which causes increased pain and immobility. Through selective breeding strategies, veterinarians and breeders are attempting to eliminate Canine Hip Dysplasia. All breeding dogs should be x-rayed and certified clear by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) and/or by the University of Pennsylvania Hip Improvement Program (PennHIP). Unique Juvenile-Onset Polyarthritis Syndrome of Akita Dogs As the name implies, this disease affects young Akitas. Reported cases have occurred in dogs less than eight months of age, and some as young as two months. Clinical signs include cyclic episodes of pain along with varying degrees of reluctance to stand or walk. Sometimes one joint is affected more severely than others, but typically multiple joints are affected simultaneously — polyarthritis meaning arthritis of many joints. During episodes of joint pain, the dogs have a fever and decreased appetite. Because these episodes are cyclic, the pain and fever returns despite antibiotics or other standard treatments.In addition, affected dogs may sometimes show evidence of Meningitis, causing excruciating neck and back pain, as well as Liver and Lung diseases. The cause of Juvenile Onset Polyarthritis of Akitas remains unknown. It is believed to be a heritable disease but the mode of inheritance is unknown. There has also been speculation that development of clinical signs is related to vaccinations; however, no proof of this is available. Additional Information: A Unique Juvenile-Onset Polyarthritis Syndrome Of Akita Dogs By Dr. Leah Cohn Uveo-Dermatological Syndrome (VKH) VKH is an autoimmune related disease with heritable implications. The onset of VKH can be slow or sudden, dramatic or barely noticeable. Three phases of signs exist: Meningoencephalitic Phase, Dermatological Phase, and Opthalmic Phase. All appear to differ from dog to dog.In the Meningoencephalitic phase, the stage in humans is characterized by fever, malaise, headache, nausea and vomiting, it is not clear whether this phase actually exists in dogs. The Dermatological phase can include blisters on the affected dogs nose. The sores may also be seen in other areas such as the eyelids, pads of the feet, scrotum and anus. After some time, the affected area may begin to depigment and there is often hair loss of loss of colour in the hair. Some Akitas have also been known to have their toenails fall off, but this is not common. During the Ophthalmic phase, the dog may become blind as the pressure in the eyes build up and causes the retina to detach. Additional Information: <a href="http://www.akita-friends.com/special/vkh.htm" target="_blank">VKH Forum - Definition and Treatment von Willebrand's Disease (vWD) vWD is a blood disorder, a deficiency in clotting factor VIII antigen. This substance is called "Von Willebrand's factor." Dogs affected by the disease do not effectively utilize their platelets for blood clotting and therefore are more likely to have excessive bleeding episodes upon injury. This is similar to hemophilia in humans.vWD is a common inherited disorder. Certain breeds, have a higher than normal incidence of this disorder. The main symptom of vWd is excessive bleeding, generally occuring after an injury or surgery. Dog's with Von Willebrand's disease may also develop nosebleeds or bleeding from the gums; bleeding in the stomach or intestine may also occur; and some dogs may have blood in their urine. Symptoms similar to those of arthritis may also occur if bleeding is into the joints. Quote Link to post
Wolly 4 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Im Not Getting Into This BUT ill have my say lol you canny knock it till you've tryed it what about pit bulls there at the top off the list for kiddy killing and biting ?? akita's aint nothing like a pitbull and not as agressive BUT YOU ALL HAVE BULL X'S you get your bad you get your good not every dog it bad and not every dog is good think off the first person who bred the bull x abet they all were haveing a row the same like you lot are think about it there worse out there in your kennels !!!! Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Im Not Getting Into This BUT ill have my say lol you canny knock it till you've tryed it what about pit bulls there at the top off the list for kiddy killing and biting ?? akita's aint nothing like a pitbull and not as agressive BUT YOU ALL HAVE BULL X'S you get your bad you get your good not every dog it bad and not every dog is good think off the first person who bred the bull x abet they all were haveing a row the same like you lot are think about it there worse out there in your kennels !!!! shut up you little puff Quote Link to post
Wolly 4 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 your one off them with your meat head bull x's LOL Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Heard it all now akita bits kids attacks people kills dogs but never heard off one on the news that as killed a child killed peoples dogs on lends while there in the park.If some one as prove off this put it up (you tube).But how many off you have heard off a pit bull terrier killing a child killing dogs getting shot by police l have a lot off times and yea can go on you tube and see this but its ok for yea all till put a pit over a greyhound and make your bull crosses???It just does not make sence to me.Some one put up a lot off proplems the akitas have but all breeds have proplems. just want till ask one question?? (wheaten)> (kerryblue)> (G,S)> (pitbull)> (staff)> What do this dogs have the akita does not????? (coat.feet,fighting.speed,size,lungs) Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 The reason bull breeds are in the news is because they make a better shock factor than other breeds.... fact....atb stabba Quote Link to post
COSH 14 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Try telling the Scandinavians or Russians that the spitz types are no good off the lead!! They would think you were mentally retarded! They are THE most popular hunting dogs over there! And from what ive seen, the Laika breeds are the best hunting dogs out of them all. Also the Scandanavian elk hounds are a decent hunting dog. Most of the spitz/husky types have a primitive hunting instinct and style, and also the primitive fear of strange dogs. Some are worse than others in this respect, but the fact that these dogs are being kept in PET homes will not do them any favours whatsoever and its not suprising at all to hear of dog killers etc, as they are naturally dogs of wide open spaces, who like to have the freedom to hunt out. Ive hunted in most countries and with most types of dogs over the years, and belive me when I say that the husky and spitz types can hunt! Though I have no experience of the Akita as a working breed, though they do have an avid following worldwide. In my mind, the husky and spitz breeds would possibly make a good longdog cross if you hunted game over large areas, wooded country, hill ground etc, id think they would be wasted on a slip lead all their lives, as they live for the hunt. Quote Link to post
Wolly 4 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 nar mate its because they're known as fighting dogs and attacking people on a regular basis !!! Quote Link to post
theferreter 311 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 this breed def not for me Quote Link to post
dpb82uk 138 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Read this and tell me what you lot think! Training: A confident and consistent approach is required to train a Japanese Akita. Repetitive drills or overly harsh training hinder the process. Japanese Akitas are easily housetrained. They must be socialized young if they are to live with other pets. Activity: Japanese Akitas have considerable stamina and should be physically and mentally stimulated as much as possible. They should be walked on a leash or provided an enclosed area for activity. Japanese Akitas enjoy active playtime with family. They can adapt when not exercised for a time, but may be less quiet and obedient. Japanese Akitas can tolerate apartment life provided they receive sufficient exercise. Character: Japanese Akitas have a strong hunting instinct and are calm, spontaneous, and intelligent, making good watchdogs. They are quiet and dignified, with great power and attentiveness. Japanese Akitas are noble and kind, making excellent companions. They are generally obedient. Barking is infrequent; however they tend to make a mess when drinking! Size: The Japanese Akita has a shoulder height of 61-71 cm (24-28 in) and weighs 35-50 kg (75-120 lbs). Japanese Akitas have small, triangular shaped eyes, flat skulls, and a level back. Their ears are small, angled, and erect. The Japanese Akita has a large, full, curly, tail which dips above or below the back. Japanese Akitas have webbed feet which make them effective swimmers. Country of Origin: The Japanese Akita (also known as ‘Akita Inu’ or just ‘Akita’) is the largest and best known Japanese breed. The Japanese Akita was bred as a fighting dog in medieval times, and redeveloped in the 1800’s as part of an effort to restore several ancient Japanese breeds. In 1918, the Akita Inu Hozankai Society of Japan was created to preserve the breed, which was subsequently designated a natural Japanese monument in 1931. In 1937, Helen Keller’s guide dog became the first Japanese Akita to arrive in the United States. The Japanese Akita grew in popularity in America after World War II, when many soldiers returned home from Japan with them. Today, they are popular American pets and serve as guard and police dogs in Japan. The world’s most famous Japanese Akita, Hachiko, greeted his owner at a train station after work every day. After his owner’s death, Hachiko continued to faithfully visit the train station every day to wait for his owner, until he died nine years later. Today a statue of Hachiko stands at the train station and an annual ceremony is held in his honor. A little more..... The Akita is the National Dog of Japan and is immensely powerful and dignified dog. Akita's are extremely intelligent, energetic, alert, courageous and very territorial. They are faithful, affectionate, and love human attention making them excellent companions and watchdogs. They are good with children within the family but will be wary of other children. The Akita was never bred to live or work in groups like many hound and sporting breeds. Therefore the individual Akita is happy being an only dog or one of two dogs in a household, but can be very aggressive towards animals not part of his family group, particularly strange dogs. They have a natural hunting instinct so would not get along with non canine animals. This breed is not for everyone, and definitely not recommended for a first time dog owner. Akita's are large, powerful, independent and dominant dogs. Therefore they require a firm owner who can give them the time for necessary training. Akita's must be trained from early puppy-hood so they know who is the boss, otherwise they will become the dominant one of the household. Early socialisation is also required to prevent aggressive and unpredictable behaviour. They do not react well to harsh training instead they need firm, loving, and consistent discipline. This breed sheds a lot, if you don't like dog hair this is not the breed for you. The soft undercoat gets matted if it is not cared for properly. This breed needs to be thoroughly brushed at least two-three times a week. This breed needs a lot of daily exercise. They should be kept on their lead due to their natural hunting instincts its not the breed id wunt in a lurcher and im shur ill fined moor resons i dont like this breed They must be socialized young if they are to live with other pets. They should be walked on a leash or provided an enclosed area for activity. They can adapt when not exercised for a time, but may be less quiet and obedient. The Japanese Akita has a shoulder height of 61-71 cm (24-28 in) and weighs 35-50 kg (75-120 lbs). The Japanese Akita was bred as a fighting dog The Japanese Akita is immensely powerful and dignified dog They are good with children within the family but will be wary of other children. The Akita was never bred to live or work in groups like many hound and sporting breeds. Therefore the individual Akita is happy being an only dog or one of two dogs in a household, but can be very aggressive towards animals not part of his family group, particularly strange dogs. They have a natural hunting instinct so would not get along with non canine animals. Early socialisation is also required to prevent aggressive and unpredictable behaviour.Akita's are large, powerful, independent and dominant dogs its not the breed id wunt in a lurcher and im shur ill fined moor resons i dont like this breed Quote Link to post
dpb82uk 138 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) nar mate its because they're known as fighting dogs and attacking people on a regular basis !!! The Japanese Akita was bred as a fighting dog IT is immensely powerful AND can be very aggressive towards animals not part of his family group, particularly strange dogs ITS JUST THERS NOT AS MENY OF THEM ABOUT Edited February 5, 2010 by dpb82uk Quote Link to post
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