whin 463 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 ye you are very [bANNED TEXT] there ,and well i like my saluks but a good colli type will do most better than most if bred [bANNED TEXT] i was lucky to get my line but i had saw parents work and thought handy dogs them or should i say very gd dogs in any bodys standard so life goes on mate Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 this is a cross that i really like. my lamping partner owns a first cross bitch, kicking on a bit now but a cracking little bitch. here she is, Jet.[not the best pics as there of an old mobile]. That bitch is a fine example of a first cross collie greyhound, very compact and racey, the trouble with first crosses, is people use the wrong types of collies, hence there is alot of wastage in the litters, a nice fell/ hill type collie should be used, that way you get a better chance of getting a dog which isn,t to heavy, and has a nice racey shape to it,a dog off this offspring would hopefully throw 22/24 tops, i,m not a fan of the big heavy 25 inch types, they sometimes lack early pace , and have very little agility, and they are very square in the shoulders, i prefer a line bred collie greyhound, but thats my own personal preference. regards collie john. Quote Link to post
Taffybull 48 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 cheers collie john. i to agree mate with what you said, i also think it makes a difrence in whitch way round you breed them dam collie sire grey is how my pals bitch is bred, shes touching 23 and a very quick bitch off the mark. this is the type that id go for, no doubt when the time is right, il put my hand to a halfx pup one day in the near future. atb taff Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 the 1s i have seen ant got enuf bottle for me thats why a like the beddlington crosses love to see a dog hit cover flat out and catch just my vew any one agree or disagree? your idea of a dog,is fantasy, hitting hedges, and hard cover, is very expensive, and your dog is layed up injured, more than he is working,to me a first x is good for the lamp, I run a 3/4 bred more for a bit faster game, Quote Link to post
all.rounder 3 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) here is my bitch.first cross collie x greyhound.shes has dun well on the lamp this session.killed her first long ear at 10months.on the lamp. lamping is all i use her for.but hope to get some day work dun with her next session. :thumbs:shes 24inch Edited February 4, 2010 by all.rounder Quote Link to post
Top Lamper 2k10 169 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 my mate has a first cross never seen it run yet but he saids its a brilliant dog though atb Top Lamper Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 mate of mine on here has one shes 12 ,used to be a demon on all quarry ,brains to burn Quote Link to post
harvey 14 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 this is my first cross 1 Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 cheers collie john. i to agree mate with what you said, i also think it makes a difrence in whitch way round you breed them dam collie sire grey is how my pals bitch is bred, shes touching 23 and a very quick bitch off the mark. this is the type that id go for, no doubt when the time is right, il put my hand to a halfx pup one day in the near future. atb taff Taff, i also agree with you about using a collie Dam, and a greyhound Sire, thats how my old mate Typp Ratcher used to do it, if i were to breed a litter of first crosses thats the way i,d go. regards collie john. Quote Link to post
minzy 16 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) thanks u guy heres my first cross 23tts sorry bout the pic its bit small Edited February 4, 2010 by minzy Quote Link to post
adamb20 22 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 had some real good collie type lurchers and well i was lucky to get the pick of litters to go for biggest and strongest they turned out very good dogs by anybodys standard,but saw alot that i wouldnt have ,ive no complainsts with the old line i keep of collie crosses and are game as they come to much so at times but ,i never bred them to be litle show dogs or obeidence winners ,they were bred to riun on land the saluki usaly is the master ,i cant see there is atime i will not have a collie type and meeting keano with ace mnow that he is an adult and some other guys with the good ole collie types they maybe thrive rather than guys like me tioling to decide to what to breed into them as good collie types are rarer now that the bull crosses etc are popular I agree on that whin in mho i think hancock was partcialy to blame for the quality in some collie hybreds.My first lurcher in the 70s was a mixture of collie/grey + beddy/grey bred by a chap called hargraves in lincs .atb dell thats what i have mate, she only 21n half but game as they come. how big was yours? Quote Link to post
adamb20 22 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 this is my first cross she hasnt half thrown racey for a first cross mate. my pup is the spitting dabs of her like Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 had some real good collie type lurchers and well i was lucky to get the pick of litters to go for biggest and strongest they turned out very good dogs by anybodys standard,but saw alot that i wouldnt have ,ive no complainsts with the old line i keep of collie crosses and are game as they come to much so at times but ,i never bred them to be litle show dogs or obeidence winners ,they were bred to riun on land the saluki usaly is the master ,i cant see there is atime i will not have a collie type and meeting keano with ace mnow that he is an adult and some other guys with the good ole collie types they maybe thrive rather than guys like me tioling to decide to what to breed into them as good collie types are rarer now that the bull crosses etc are popular I agree on that whin in mho i think hancock was partcialy to blame for the quality in some collie hybreds.My first lurcher in the 70s was a mixture of collie/grey + beddy/grey bred by a chap called hargraves in lincs .atb dell thats what i have mate, she only 21n half but game as they come. how big was yours? I had a dog of this breeding that was 24tts and a bitch i had was 23tts .I wish i had a scanner as i have hundreds of photos of them .I bred pups out of them and kept the line going and out crossing to a saluki/grey in 1990 and producing one of the best allround dogs i have owned.Its a cross i would definately have again and i believe that both the beddy and collie hybreds put together can produce some cracking lurchers.atb dell Quote Link to post
adamb20 22 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 had some real good collie type lurchers and well i was lucky to get the pick of litters to go for biggest and strongest they turned out very good dogs by anybodys standard,but saw alot that i wouldnt have ,ive no complainsts with the old line i keep of collie crosses and are game as they come to much so at times but ,i never bred them to be litle show dogs or obeidence winners ,they were bred to riun on land the saluki usaly is the master ,i cant see there is atime i will not have a collie type and meeting keano with ace mnow that he is an adult and some other guys with the good ole collie types they maybe thrive rather than guys like me tioling to decide to what to breed into them as good collie types are rarer now that the bull crosses etc are popular I agree on that whin in mho i think hancock was partcialy to blame for the quality in some collie hybreds.My first lurcher in the 70s was a mixture of collie/grey + beddy/grey bred by a chap called hargraves in lincs .atb dell thats what i have mate, she only 21n half but game as they come. how big was yours? I had a dog of this breeding that was 24tts and a bitch i had was 23t ts .I wish i had a scanner as i have hundreds of photos of them .I bred pups out of them and kept the line going and out crossing to a saluki/grey in 1990 and producing one of the best allround dogs i have owned.Its a cross i would definately have again and i believe that both the beddy and collie hybreds put together can produce some cracking lurchers.atb dell yeah i think ill breed her to a saluki greyhound later when she about 5. Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 had some real good collie type lurchers and well i was lucky to get the pick of litters to go for biggest and strongest they turned out very good dogs by anybodys standard,but saw alot that i wouldnt have ,ive no complainsts with the old line i keep of collie crosses and are game as they come to much so at times but ,i never bred them to be litle show dogs or obeidence winners ,they were bred to riun on land the saluki usaly is the master ,i cant see there is atime i will not have a collie type and meeting keano with ace mnow that he is an adult and some other guys with the good ole collie types they maybe thrive rather than guys like me tioling to decide to what to breed into them as good collie types are rarer now that the bull crosses etc are popular I agree on that whin in mho i think hancock was partcialy to blame for the quality in some collie hybreds.My first lurcher in the 70s was a mixture of collie/grey + beddy/grey bred by a chap called hargraves in lincs .atb dell thats what i have mate, she only 21n half but game as they come. how big was yours? I had a dog of this breeding that was 24tts and a bitch i had was 23t ts .I wish i had a scanner as i have hundreds of photos of them .I bred pups out of them and kept the line going and out crossing to a saluki/grey in 1990 and producing one of the best allround dogs i have owned.Its a cross i would definately have again and i believe that both the beddy and collie hybreds put together can produce some cracking lurchers.atb dell yeah i think ill breed her to a saluki greyhound later when she about 5. A good fast type saluki and you wont go far wrong i wouldent be tempted to put a greyhound or a whippet over her [bANNED TEXT] the time comes. Quote Link to post
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