DAYTIME HARE COURSING

[tanit1 3]

its in the blood and its here to stay. atb happy hunting to those that matter. all antis

Edited February 5, 2010 by tanit1

[inan 841]

The ban was brought in under the guise of animal welfare ,but it was effectively class war,which you seem to be doing your bit to keep alive Joe.

The Ban has actually made little difference to fox hunts ,and they have increased their membership.If you dont think the ban has affected coursing men ,all I can say is you don't do much of it.

Recently two people were in court for attending a coursing meet one is a well known tv personality and a QC, the other is a Knight of the Realm.

You talk divisively Joe, and we know what happens when forces are divided, they get conquered

The "Red Coat" image was what inflamed the lefties to start with .

If the fox hunts were banned ,but all dog work was retained, would you march for them ?

From the tone of your post, I would say NOT A CHANCE.

 

I think you have misunderstood my first post so read it properly A question for you inan: Do you think the red coats will march for coursing/lurcher work if the ban gets relaxed for fox hunting with hounds?

 

I think I did misconstrue your post,well ,part of it, but, not your hobby horse "the toffs, in their red coats ,[actually hunting pink] .

Why divide us into groups Joe?

The C/A has pledged to defend ALL field sports, I cannot speak for others.

I belong to the C/A as, for all its perceived faults ,"it's the only game in town".

You seem to have issues with Fox hunts, and those that go on them.

Ive never hunted to hounds ,or been a foot follower ,but I support the right of others to do it.

If things were reversed would you march for them Joe?

To be honest ,I doubt you would do anything for any group,I may well be wrong, but, you seem to take the expression "keep a low profile ", to its ultimate .

Iv'e never seen a post by you talking about a day out doing ANY kind of dog work.

I ve never read anything by you that wasn't negative.

I quite understand the need for caution when talking about one's exploits but you post nothing.

Don't think I would rely on you at the barricades Joe.

As I say I may well be wrong ,but that's how you come across to me.

Not meant to be a put down just how it appears to me.

[Guest joe ox]

I think I did misconstrue your post,well ,part of it, but, not your hobby horse "the toffs, in their red coats ,[actually hunting pink] .

Why divide us into groups Joe?

The C/A has pledged to defend ALL field sports, I cannot speak for others.

I belong to the C/A as, for all its perceived faults ,"it's the only game in town".

You seem to have issues with Fox hunts, and those that go on them.

Ive never hunted to hounds ,or been a foot follower ,but I support the right of others to do it.

If things were reversed would you march for them Joe?

To be honest ,I doubt you would do anything for any group,I may well be wrong, but, you seem to take the expression "keep a low profile ", to its ultimate .

Iv'e never seen a post by you talking about a day out doing ANY kind of dog work.

I ve never read anything by you that wasn't negative.

I quite understand the need for caution when talking about one's exploits but you post nothing.

Don't think I would rely on you at the barricades Joe.

As I say I may well be wrong ,but that's how you come across to me.

Not meant to be a put down just how it appears to me.

 

It doesnt seem that long ago I had a go at you for dividing us into groups ie poachers and those with permision, or was it because you were blaming poachers for this ban like what the red coats and the coursing clubs did to some degree in the fight to try and stop the ban or maybe both?

As for me dividing us into groups thats not true all Iam doing is being a realist and saying it as it is or are you naive enough to think any other?

Yes I play my cards close to my chest which is how I prefer it and how its gona stay

I have as much faith in the CA as I do the red coats

Edited February 5, 2010 by joe ox

[Guest 2GOOD]

I think I did misconstrue your post,well ,part of it, but, not your hobby horse "the toffs, in their red coats ,[actually hunting pink] .

Why divide us into groups Joe?

The C/A has pledged to defend ALL field sports, I cannot speak for others.

I belong to the C/A as, for all its perceived faults ,"it's the only game in town".

You seem to have issues with Fox hunts, and those that go on them.

Ive never hunted to hounds ,or been a foot follower ,but I support the right of others to do it.

If things were reversed would you march for them Joe?

To be honest ,I doubt you would do anything for any group,I may well be wrong, but, you seem to take the expression "keep a low profile ", to its ultimate .

Iv'e never seen a post by you talking about a day out doing ANY kind of dog work.

I ve never read anything by you that wasn't negative.

I quite understand the need for caution when talking about one's exploits but you post nothing.

Don't think I would rely on you at the barricades Joe.

As I say I may well be wrong ,but that's how you come across to me.

Not meant to be a put down just how it appears to me.

 

It doesnt seem that long ago I had a go at you for dividing us into groups ie poachers and those with permision, or was it because you were blaming poachers for this ban like what the red coats and the coursing clubs did to some degree in the fight to try and stop the ban or maybe both?

As for me dividing us into groups thats not true all Iam doing is being a realist and saying it as it is or are you naive enough to think any other?

Yes I play my cards close to my chest which is how I prefer it and how its gona stay

I have as much faith in the CA as I do the red coats

[boyo 1,398]

the hunting ban hit everyone that hunts with dogs except perhaps the ratters .ive been on every march including the imfamous battering in london been done also for motorway blockades and was a member of the real countryside alliance and on everyone i went on everyone stuck together whether lurcher terrier or foxhunters and believe me the foxhunters were in the thick end of it everytime it came on top and quite a few still carry the scars to testify. the point ime making is we must stick together and cut out all this shit them and us . and no ive never been on a hunt but run lurchers and another point ive got quite a few travelling mates but dont know one that did anything to try and stop the ban in any way and can all of you posting on this subject honestly say you did all you could to stop the ban coming into force or as one of my mates said to me when asked did he need a seat on the bus going to the march he replied f**k off ime going ferreting that day .

[DIGZY 4]

The Sport of Kings will never die out. The flame burns too brightly, too deeply, in too many people for it to be extinguished. What is happening however, is the chavs and silly lads are being forced out of the game one way or the other. That can only be of benefit to everyone in the fieldsports community.

I was told of a hare drive the other day, 600+ they shot. Now i have nothing against someone shooting a hare or two, i have shot a couple when i was younger and they were never wasted. But i do think 600+ hares is unmoral, but sadly, legal.

Some five years ago the hand-wringers amongst us were sounding the death knell for the saluki hybrids, and thankfully, they were wrong. There are still good dogs out there and still good lads to run those good dogs... JD

 

its sad that. all hares will be killed in theses shooting drives strong animals and weak were as if a lurcher was coursing they would take out weaker hares and keeping healthy population its changed days lads for the worst

[inan 841]

I think I did misconstrue your post,well ,part of it, but, not your hobby horse "the toffs, in their red coats ,[actually hunting pink] .

Why divide us into groups Joe?

The C/A has pledged to defend ALL field sports, I cannot speak for others.

I belong to the C/A as, for all its perceived faults ,"it's the only game in town".

You seem to have issues with Fox hunts, and those that go on them.

Ive never hunted to hounds ,or been a foot follower ,but I support the right of others to do it.

If things were reversed would you march for them Joe?

To be honest ,I doubt you would do anything for any group,I may well be wrong, but, you seem to take the expression "keep a low profile ", to its ultimate .

Iv'e never seen a post by you talking about a day out doing ANY kind of dog work.

I ve never read anything by you that wasn't negative.

I quite understand the need for caution when talking about one's exploits but you post nothing.

Don't think I would rely on you at the barricades Joe.

As I say I may well be wrong ,but that's how you come across to me.

Not meant to be a put down just how it appears to me.

 

It doesnt seem that long ago I had a go at you for dividing us into groups ie poachers and those with permision, or was it because you were blaming poachers for this ban like what the red coats and the coursing clubs did to some degree in the fight to try and stop the ban or maybe both?

As for me dividing us into groups thats not true all Iam doing is being a realist and saying it as it is or are you naive enough to think any other?

Yes I play my cards close to my chest which is how I prefer it and how its gona stay

I have as much faith in the CA as I do the red coats

Hope I was not too personal in my last post.

You are entitled to your views.[ very gracious on my part].

 

Ive never blamed poachers for the ban ,but I don't think they have helped things ,especially the 4x4 guy's, and I think the lampers who have permission would agree.

I hope I am not naive, as I said, you have class issues,which, I beleive blinkers you somewhat.

Cynicism is okay ,in it's place ,but the world must look pretty bleak , if that's all you see.

The C/A has some good guys in it at top level,as I passed the Cenotaph on the last big march I saw Sam Butler standing at it's foot, we acknowledged each other,he was a full time rep for them ,representing the" dog section" ,the guy came out to our club on a Sunday in his own time, he was not on the payroll ,just some one who wanted to fight the ban ,"one of the good guys".

I ask you again, who would you stand with?

[gonetoearth 5,144]

The Sport of Kings will never die out. The flame burns too brightly, too deeply, in too many people for it to be extinguished. What is happening however, is the chavs and silly lads are being forced out of the game one way or the other. That can only be of benefit to everyone in the fieldsports community.

I was told of a hare drive the other day, 600+ they shot. Now i have nothing against someone shooting a hare or two, i have shot a couple when i was younger and they were never wasted. But i do think 600+ hares is unmoral, but sadly, legal.

Some five years ago the hand-wringers amongst us were sounding the death knell for the saluki hybrids, and thankfully, they were wrong. There are still good dogs out there and still good lads to run those good dogs... JD

 

its sad that. all hares will be killed in theses shooting drives strong animals and weak were as if a lurcher was coursing they would take out weaker hares and keeping healthy population its changed days lads for the worst

Ive said this before but here goes, 1977 altcar anti,s turned up few of the lads

threw a few in the ditches they were mostly students etc , next couple of years they grew

the police used to escort them down the lane , the bfss what happened to them , started a

fighting fund we all gave .throughout the country hunts were getting hassle at meets , the

hunts chouse in the main to ignore them , they kept coming the waterloo cup , we kept giving

money to the fighting fund what ever happened to that , various mps started jumping on

the band wagon labour was in the shit after years in the wilderness started making promises.

still no real action was taken the Lac's were winning the hearts and minds of the public

were was the counter pr no were to be seen , this war was lost because we sat back and

let them win it, the CA should now be launching a Major pr campaign before the election

a march should go a head before the election , the have millions of are money now is the

time to use it ,

Edited February 5, 2010 by gonetoearth

[Guest joe ox]

Inan, its not class issues I have its trust issues. The answer to your question is I will stand with anyone I trust or respect

[conor.k 2]

i dont beleive of a ban iv always and i will always hunt hairs. so fook it thats wat i say never give up

[inan 841]

the hunting ban hit everyone that hunts with dogs except perhaps the ratters .ive been on every march including the imfamous battering in london been done also for motorway blockades and was a member of the real countryside alliance and on everyone i went on everyone stuck together whether lurcher terrier or foxhunters and believe me the foxhunters were in the thick end of it everytime it came on top and quite a few still carry the scars to testify. the point ime making is we must stick together and cut out all this shit them and us . and no ive never been on a hunt but run lurchers and another point ive got quite a few travelling mates but dont know one that did anything to try and stop the ban in any way and can all of you posting on this subject honestly say you did all you could to stop the ban coming into force or as one of my mates said to me when asked did he need a seat on the bus going to the march he replied f**k off ime going ferreting that day .

I think I can say I made every march /demo I could ,losing work/money ,was not a consideration,providing cover for shifts, occasionally was.

[boyo 1,398]

innan i was there with you on a few . good hunting mate

[inan 841]

innan i was there with you on a few . good hunting mate

Yes you were mate ,remember Westminster? That got a bit lively,but we gave as good as we got,I knew it would be hairy ,I did half the 6 to 2 shift ,had a shower and trained up to London,coming through Horse Guards Parade, I saw a squad of mounted Old Bill without ID on their shoulders .I knew the crack then ,as I've been on a few picket lines.

You are one of the Good Guys J,Good Hunting

[gonetoearth 5,144]

innan i was there with you on a few . good hunting mate

Yes you were mate ,remember Westminster? That got a bit lively,but we gave as good as we got,I knew it would be hairy ,I did half the 6 to 2 shift ,had a shower and trained up to London,coming through Horse Guards Parade, I saw a squad of mounted Old Bill without ID on their shoulders .I knew the crack then ,as I've been on a few picket lines.

You are one of the Good Guys J,Good Hunting

remember the lads from the qantocks standing toe to toe with the coppers and

some blond bird getting her head split open, to this day i dont bealeve how the plod

got away with it,

[boyo 1,398]

a picture that will stay with me for ever is i was in the front line going through and in the right hand corner a old guy in his seventies or eighties was stood next to me and they battered the both of us he was on the floor by the side of me blood pouring from his head wounds. his picture was in all the papers next day but that day the country as a whole knew what hunting meant to the people of this country . it made you proud to be there.