Too Fast..possible or not,

[inan 841]

Obviously speed,or a modicum of it is needed in a dogs makeup, but, if it was the be and end all, breeders would have sought out sprint greyhounds ,would they not?

 

 

The problem with this rational is that "sprint greyhounds" have not been selected to catch and kill shit. Only to run in a straight line. So, to answer your question, no breeders would not select them dogs. Not arguin just showin you the flaw in that rational.

Dan ,no greyhounds in the uk are selected to kill,and they only run a couple of bends on a track.

Irish coursing which is still legal is all about pace on the run up.Some of their dogs are huge.

I would not want a coursing greyhound, as one with a good mouth is actually undesirable, what is needed for that discipline is a dog that is fast and agile ,has a modicum of stay[for a greyhound],one that wins the run up ,turns the hare several times to amass points ,it has no relevance to hunting.

Coursing greyhounds that run to kill and use their gob,ie hang off waiting for the other dog to turn the hare for them are the last thing a trainer/ owner wants' as they do not tot up the necessary points.

These faults are just what a lurcher owner requires in a dog.

Years ago, John Bromiley a coursing greyhound trainer, fielded a dog called PeaseDown Erin, it was rejected from the track for fighting.

The dog had a marvellous gob,killing virtualy every hare it ran ,often on the run up,a mate of mine tried to put it across his lurcher bitch ,but Erin wouldn't do the job.

Edited February 4, 2010 by inan

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Dan ,no greyhounds in the uk are selected to kill,and they only run a couple of bends on a track.

 

 

That was my point exactly. As a breeder of dogs that catch and kill shit I would never select for a dog that was not bred for this very same reason but as a breeder of dogs that catch and kill shit, I will however try and keep my dogs as fast as possible at all times while cullin any of them that dont make the grade at the catchin and killin part.

[wee gemm hunter 8]

Obviously speed,or a modicum of it is needed in a dogs makeup, but, if it was the be and end all, breeders would have sought out sprint greyhounds ,would they not?

 

 

The problem with this rational is that "sprint greyhounds" have not been selected to catch and kill shit. Only to run in a straight line. So, to answer your question, no breeders would not select them dogs. Not arguin just showin you the flaw in that rational.

Dan ,no greyhounds in the uk are selected to kill,and they only run a couple of bends on a track.

Irish coursing which is still legal is all about pace on the run up.Some of their dogs are huge.

I would not want a coursing greyhound, as one with a good mouth is actually undesirable, what is needed for that discipline is a dog that is fast and agile ,has a modicum of stay[for a greyhound],one that wins the run up ,turns the hare several times to amass points ,it has no relevance to hunting.

Coursing greyhounds that run to kill and use their gob,ie hang off waiting for the other dog to turn the hare for them are the last thing a trainer/ owner wants' as they do not tot up the necessary points.

These faults are just what a lurcher owner requires in a dog.

Years ago, John Bromiley a coursing greyhound trainer, fielded a dog called PeaseDown Erin, it was rejected from the track for fighting.

The dog had a marvellous gob,killing virtualy every hare it ran ,often on the run up,a mate of mine tried to put it across his lurcher bitch ,but Erin wouldn't do the job.

 

Inan, you've just hit the nail on the head,[hang off waiting for the other dog] As you know the coursing dog is a flying machine, so said dog learned to use its speed, just like going into a bend on the track, it's got to learn to take the bend.

 

Chartpolski you sound like a my kind of guy, agree with everything you say.

[inan 841]

2GOOD get yourself a copy of lucky the dark destroyer ( i am only picking this dog as most people of here will have heard of him ) this is what i call a cleaver dog, he used to stops his hare going were it wanted to go, he slowed it down to his pace, not like a fast dog who keeps on over running his hare and pushing it, a dog only has to be 1 yard quicker than the hare he is running, a hare will only run as fast as the dog behind him/her, you can not teach a dog to run like lucky used to run, or are you saying you can teach any dog to run like lucky?,

The owner of Lucky told me the dog just did it naturally,I have his son here, he ran the same ,but, unfortunately was not as good ,but then few were .

[Endgame 68]

2GOOD get yourself a copy of lucky the dark destroyer ( i am only picking this dog as most people of here will have heard of him ) this is what i call a cleaver dog, he used to stops his hare going were it wanted to go, he slowed it down to his pace, not like a fast dog who keeps on over running his hare and pushing it, a dog only has to be 1 yard quicker than the hare he is running, a hare will only run as fast as the dog behind him/her, you can not teach a dog to run like lucky used to run, or are you saying you can teach any dog to run like lucky?,

The owner of Lucky told me the dog just did it naturally,I have his son here, he ran the same ,but, unfortunately was not as good ,but then few were .

LUCKY WAS TRULY AN EXCEPTIONAL DOG.HAD PLEASURE OF SEEING HIM RUN.

[inan 841]

2GOOD get yourself a copy of lucky the dark destroyer ( i am only picking this dog as most people of here will have heard of him ) this is what i call a cleaver dog, he used to stops his hare going were it wanted to go, he slowed it down to his pace, not like a fast dog who keeps on over running his hare and pushing it, a dog only has to be 1 yard quicker than the hare he is running, a hare will only run as fast as the dog behind him/her, you can not teach a dog to run like lucky used to run, or are you saying you can teach any dog to run like lucky?,

The owner of Lucky told me the dog just did it naturally,I have his son here, he ran the same ,but, unfortunately was not as good ,but then few were .

LUCKY WAS TRULY AN EXCEPTIONAL DOG.HAD PLEASURE OF SEEING HIM RUN.

Me too, I would rate him as good a male dog as I have seen.

[whin 463]

i like seeing a dog with pace but can control it ,freinds got a young dog who can the dog catches were ever we go a clever pup and ran with the head up since apup but does not look like a saluki but cuts corners goes up the gears catches out the lamp , catches in the daylite, speed to me has its good pionts to bring the qaurry from the woodside and tunr it of the woodside ,but ive found with rabbiting lamping you donrt need rakes of pace all the time got a few dogs and some control it well , lamping ,but its through breeding and being out all the time , greyhound saturated dogs are not for me ,for season in season out ,better with good lurcher to good lurcher but pacy ones and throw the odd greyhound in,if need be