Guest 2GOOD Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Another thing one must seriously take into consideration here is this. The truely great fast dogs are not weak or brittle. They are not injury prone at all. They are the best of their kind and they can absolutley fly and take any tumble that a half breed collie lurcher could take. If you think of it, they should be able to. They are damn near perfect in every aspect. If they were not, they would not be the athletes that they are in the first place. Never will you see a straighter legged, more muscled, solid hound that them fast as lightning jack rabbit or hare dogs that them boys run. They float over the ground with the greatest of ease and never get injured. Thats cause they are what we should all be lookin for. Dont settle for a slow dog just cause it wont get injured. That might well be, but the sumbitch aint never gonna catch nothin but a cold either. a fast dog would not last a week in the places i work my dog ,mabe ok for you on them vast plains where they get time to pull up or turn wide ., We run ours in timber ground all the time so I aint buyin that either. dan you dont run dogs in small fields with hedges and walls like we do ,a fast dog does not cut it in these places ,that is all im saying ,other wise i would get a greyhound .or pure whipet . I would have thought the opposite were true; fast dogs for the small fields, plodders for the fens. Cheers. just take a look at our top sprinters in the country ,when running on a indoor track ,they have to bounce of a large padded mat to come to a halt, ,think about it , Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,915 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 If a dog hasn't got the speed to get on terms with it's quarry in small fields; it aint gonna catch it , simple as that. Cheers. Quote Link to post
sounder 9 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Another thing one must seriously take into consideration here is this. The truely great fast dogs are not weak or brittle. They are not injury prone at all. They are the best of their kind and they can absolutley fly and take any tumble that a half breed collie lurcher could take. If you think of it, they should be able to. They are damn near perfect in every aspect. If they were not, they would not be the athletes that they are in the first place. Never will you see a straighter legged, more muscled, solid hound that them fast as lightning jack rabbit or hare dogs that them boys run. They float over the ground with the greatest of ease and never get injured. Thats cause they are what we should all be lookin for. Dont settle for a slow dog just cause it wont get injured. That might well be, but the sumbitch aint never gonna catch nothin but a cold either. a fast dog would not last a week in the places i work my dog ,mabe ok for you on them vast plains where they get time to pull up or turn wide ., We run ours in timber ground all the time so I aint buyin that either. dan you dont run dogs in small fields with hedges and walls like we do ,a fast dog does not cut it in these places ,that is all im saying ,other wise i would get a greyhound .or pure whipet . I would have thought the opposite were true; fast dogs for the small fields, plodders for the fens. Cheers. yes mate fast to cover then slow to stay on the game i have seen dog's pass rabbit to stop then get to the cover there fast enough but they are still on it , dan when you say timber ground do you mean wood's or forest ect , how do you lamp that ??? without losing it's game , Quote Link to post
Guest 2GOOD Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 If a dog hasn't got the speed to get on terms with it's quarry in small fields; it aint gonna catch it , simple as that. Cheers. in the day perhaps ,on the lamp then it has every chance . Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 the real fast dogs ive seen still catch well but just make real hard work out of it till they learn to slow up abit jmho Quote Link to post
Guest 2GOOD Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) the real fast dogs ive seen still catch well but just make real hard work out of it till they learn to slow up abit jmho then they have leared from past expereance ,when they keept missing ,because they were to fast . Edited February 2, 2010 by 2GOOD Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I used to run a few plodders, 1st crosses nothing speedy,but found that most of the catch's on the lamp were made in the hedge ,where the dog would hit the hedge hard ,knowing the rabbit would have to ease up to get into passage through the hedge,,i can live with a plodder as long as they got plenty of bottle,. Quote Link to post
lofti 579 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 i dont think you can have a dog that can be too fast, as it needs to get to its quarry especially after a long slip, the diffrence is the dog slowing up at the right times. so idealy a fast dog that knows when to run slow. lofti. Quote Link to post
natter79 17 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 i've got a young dog at the moment and i would say he can be too fast, his approach is always at full tilt then when on his quarry he hasn't quite learned to slow up a little to compensate for the tight turns this however should come together with experience and work. so yes i beleive they can be too fast BUT only when their inexperience and age play the main part, jmo atb natter Quote Link to post
wee gemm hunter 8 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I've owned fast dogs in the past and they could kill with ease, the faster the better as far as I'm concerned, they learn how to control their running with work ,It's not rocket science the more work they get the better they become. Quote Link to post
Thomsons dogs 37 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 think sometimes a fast type dog bit over keen can over shoot what they chase but who cares as long as they get back to it and do there job Quote Link to post
Guest 2GOOD Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) I've owned fast dogs in the past and they could kill with ease, the faster the better as far as I'm concerned, they learn how to control their running with work ,It's not rocket science the more work they get the better they become. the more work they get ,you have read post 24 , : :they might get better ,but they also slow up ,so they arnt so fast. Edited February 2, 2010 by 2GOOD Quote Link to post
Stuart O Connor 1 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I dont think a dog can be too fast i just think they need to learn how to use there gears which all do and should be fine ! Just my opinion though ! Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 surely dogs can be to fast for big bags and hard nights/days work, if you look at cheetahs and greyhounds loads of speed no stamina one or maybe two runs in a day and thats your lot. what i am saying is think dogs can be to fast. Quote Link to post
wee gemm hunter 8 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I've owned fast dogs in the past and they could kill with ease, the faster the better as far as I'm concerned, they learn how to control their running with work ,It's not rocket science the more work they get the better they become. dogs with to much greyhound in them.dont get better when they are worked hard they go back wards Are you saying that if you run a dog once a week it's going to learn more than a dog thats run 3 or 4 times a week. I'm not talking about 8hr shifts I'm talking talking 2 or 3 chases, all depending on how hard the runs are, would you say the red bitch in my pics is to greyhoundish, got her as an adult,totally hyper surprised she never killed herself, now she is a lot more calmer and would have no problem running all day if I asked her to, and she is fast just learned to control it. Quote Link to post
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