droid 11 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 You lost a v-hob. Never mind mate, it's only a ferret. Soon get another one, eh? Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I agree with you up to a point - i ferreted for years without using a locater and my dad never had one his whole life (not around) and never lost a ferret underground. We were probably lucky, but when a ferret didnt come up we just sat and waited. HOWEVER - they are available now and yer 90% of the time its not needed - everything goes on as normal, but it does mean that i can rest safe in the knowledge that if sopmething DOES happen - i can dg them out. One question tho - anyone noticed a difference in how the ferrets work, with and without collars? atb Jai. i agree with u pal. But im no one to want a locator, takes the fun out the game i think. Ferreting is a waiting game. More oftern than not my ferrets come out they work the holes pretty well and they give you a sure sign nobody is home under ground cos they pop back up right away! Before i think about buyin a collar i would like to see one in use to see the difference. Have you noticed any differnce with the way they work While wearin a collar? FM eeejit :wallbash: :wallbash: Quote Link to post
stubby 175 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 a stupid statement may i add cos what did people do in the days before a locator...people seem to forget a ferret is bread for this kinda stuff a contradiciting statement if you ask me, you say its ok to use ferts like they did 30yrs ago, yet admit to having a snipped hob, surely something they wouldent have done 30yrs ago, yes years ago the ferreted without locators, but ask WHY I would imagine because they did'nt have the money, it was more to put food on the table, than a pastime as it is now, back then money did'nt come easy, christ some people that live off the state get more money than me as a full time worker, so you cant even really use money as an excuse, at the end of the day though, its horses for courses, you have your way and if your happy with it, fine, just dont ask me for a ferret,lol Quote Link to post
ferretmaniac 5 Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 You lost a v-hob. Never mind mate, it's only a ferret. Soon get another one, eh? Nah i didnt loose it pal, the returned no probs! Quote Link to post
ferretmaniac 5 Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 a stupid statement may i add cos what did people do in the days before a locator...people seem to forget a ferret is bread for this kinda stuff a contradiciting statement if you ask me, you say its ok to use ferts like they did 30yrs ago, yet admit to having a snipped hob, surely something they wouldent have done 30yrs ago, yes years ago the ferreted without locators, but ask WHY I would imagine because they did'nt have the money, it was more to put food on the table, than a pastime as it is now, back then money did'nt come easy, christ some people that live off the state get more money than me as a full time worker, so you cant even really use money as an excuse, at the end of the day though, its horses for courses, you have your way and if your happy with it, fine, just dont ask me for a ferret,lol Right ok. How is it contrdicting? I only use the v-hob for working cos i have no other ferret than a jill. It was only vescetomised cos i dont want to bread ferrets! Whats the fact he has been v'ed got anything to do with me working him? After all he is still a ferret with no male function or not and since i havent got any other to work apart from one, then it seems pretty unfair to not work him under the circumstances. I dont want to use a locator i wont use one. Whats the big deal? Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 a stupid statement may i add cos what did people do in the days before a locator...people seem to forget a ferret is bread for this kinda stuff Well said Stubby a contradiciting statement if you ask me, you say its ok to use ferts like they did 30yrs ago, yet admit to having a snipped hob, surely something they wouldent have done 30yrs ago, yes years ago the ferreted without locators, but ask WHY I would imagine because they did'nt have the money, it was more to put food on the table, than a pastime as it is now, back then money did'nt come easy, christ some people that live off the state get more money than me as a full time worker, so you cant even really use money as an excuse, at the end of the day though, its horses for courses, you have your way and if your happy with it, fine, just dont ask me for a ferret,lol Quote Link to post
droid 11 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I only use the v-hob for working cos i have no other ferret than a jill. It was only vescetomised cos i dont want to bread ferrets! Whats the fact he has been v'ed got anything to do with me working him? After all he is still a ferret with no male function or not and since i havent got any other to work apart from one, then it seems pretty unfair to not work him under the circumstances. Good for you mate. Too much thoughtless breeding IMHO. I think what Stubby's trying to say is that if the technology is there you should use it. As much for the ferret's sake as for yours. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Tested it today. Took a jill who had never even seen a collar of any kind before out. Only collared her up (using ferretone) at mouth of first set. She didn't notice a thing, no difference to her working AT ALL. Just thought you'd like an answer. atb Jai. Quote Link to post
stubby 175 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I only use the v-hob for working cos i have no other ferret than a jill. It was only vescetomised cos i dont want to bread ferrets! Whats the fact he has been v'ed got anything to do with me working him? After all he is still a ferret with no male function or not and since i havent got any other to work apart from one, then it seems pretty unfair to not work him under the circumstances. Good for you mate. Too much thoughtless breeding IMHO. I think what Stubby's trying to say is that if the technology is there you should use it. As much for the ferret's sake as for yours. it was more a case of you saying that they didnt use locators years ago, so you dont, and me saying years ago they would'ent have a snipped hob, its not impossible to stop ferts breeding without one, where did I say you couldent use it for ferreting I have snipped and castrated that are used Quote Link to post
ferretmaniac 5 Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Tested it today. Took a jill who had never even seen a collar of any kind before out. Only collared her up (using ferretone) at mouth of first set. She didn't notice a thing, no difference to her working AT ALL. Just thought you'd like an answer. atb Jai. Thats good pal. Im glad u are happy with the collar. Atb with it. Fm Quote Link to post
ferretmaniac 5 Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I only use the v-hob for working cos i have no other ferret than a jill. It was only vescetomised cos i dont want to bread ferrets! Whats the fact he has been v'ed got anything to do with me working him? After all he is still a ferret with no male function or not and since i havent got any other to work apart from one, then it seems pretty unfair to not work him under the circumstances. Good for you mate. Too much thoughtless breeding IMHO. I think what Stubby's trying to say is that if the technology is there you should use it. As much for the ferret's sake as for yours. it was more a case of you saying that they didnt use locators years ago, so you dont, and me saying years ago they would'ent have a snipped hob, its not impossible to stop ferts breeding without one, where did I say you couldent use it for ferreting I have snipped and castrated that are used Personally i just dont want a locator,i dont see the point but if i wanted to i will try one and see what its like workin with one. My ferrets work ok for now, they pop up when they've bolted so its all good. Sorry pal i might of mis read ur last post. Fm Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) Tested it today. Took a jill who had never even seen a collar of any kind before out. Only collared her up (using ferretone) at mouth of first set. She didn't notice a thing, no difference to her working AT ALL. Just thought you'd like an answer. atb Jai. Thats good pal. Im glad u are happy with the collar. Atb with it. Fm I've used them before plenty - i was testing it on a jill who had never worn it and was expected to hunt straight away - to see if it made a difference to how she worked. She didnt even notice! It was meant to prove a point . . . i think atb jai. Edited February 8, 2010 by Ideation Quote Link to post
fensaluki 35 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I only use the v-hob for working cos i have no other ferret than a jill. It was only vescetomised cos i dont want to bread ferrets! Whats the fact he has been v'ed got anything to do with me working him? After all he is still a ferret with no male function or not and since i havent got any other to work apart from one, then it seems pretty unfair to not work him under the circumstances. Good for you mate. Too much thoughtless breeding IMHO. I think what Stubby's trying to say is that if the technology is there you should use it. As much for the ferret's sake as for yours. it was more a case of you saying that they didnt use locators years ago, so you dont, and me saying years ago they would'ent have a snipped hob, its not impossible to stop ferts breeding without one, where did I say you couldent use it for ferreting I have snipped and castrated that are used Personally i just dont want a locator,i dont see the point but if i wanted to i will try one and see what its like workin with one. My ferrets work ok for now, they pop up when they've bolted so its all good. Sorry pal i might of mis read ur last post. Fm I think this is were your going wrong with this thread mate.If you dont want to use a locator and want to risk loosing your ferret and killed rabbits then thats up to you.But to say there is no point in them is just a senceless comment as there is obviously a point to using them. in my area a many of the keepers and farmers dont want you to ferret their land without a locator as they dont want lost ferrets that have turned ferral turning up in their pheasant pens.Personly even though they are "only ferrets" Mine work very hard for me so i feel that I owe it to them to give them the best chance of coming home with me that I can.and also I dont personly like the idear of killing the rabbits and leaving them to ground if I can avoid it ,Just seems a bit of a waste to me I wouldn't slip a lurcher before teaching it recal,I wouldn't put a terrier to ground without a locator collar so I "CAN'T SEE THE POINT" of putting a ferret to ground without one. JMHO ATB Quote Link to post
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