Sealyham Terriers

[fat man 4,741]

What made them good fatman,the russell or the sealyham?.Not a loaded question bud but just asking as with the devon pack it was the russell that made the massive difference.I know the lads you know work them in a different way but was there a problem with one of the types to make them mix it with the other ?.

Cant really say which as the dog i had was well down the line in there breeding programme.I actually got mine through a friend after all my own dogs were stolen.The dog in question was 4-5 year old when i had him and a joy to work.The chap that i got him through had a few of these type,like pees in a pod,long backs,big heads and rough coats and twisated front legs,ugly b*****ds but good workers.They were kept between 3 men i think and very few outside the circle got there hands on them.I would say that both types were of good quality as these lads were not into breeding dirt,couple of lads of here seen the dog i had work,i could not fault him.

[andy26 618]

 

What made them good fatman,the russell or the sealyham?.Not a loaded question bud but just asking as with the devon pack it was the russell that made the massive difference.I know the lads you know work them in a different way but was there a problem with one of the types to make them mix it with the other ?.

 

Cant really say which as the dog i had was well down the line in there breeding programme.I actually got mine through a friend after all my own dogs were stolen.The dog in question was 4-5 year old when i had him and a joy to work.The chap that i got him through had a few of these type,like pees in a pod,long backs,big heads and rough coats and twisated front legs,ugly b*****ds but good workers.They were kept between 3 men i think and very few outside the circle got there hands on them.I would say that both types were of good quality as these lads were not into breeding dirt,couple of lads of here seen the dog i had work,i could not fault him.

the line you are on about is the stuff we have in Durham cracking dogs they are

[onion jonny 526]

the white terriers bred in cork were cracking terriers before the out cross

Edited October 6, 2014 by snagbrac

[pablo esc 1,598]

Which out cross mate, do you mean after the Russell?

[andy26 618]

the white terriers bred in cork were cracking terriers before the out cross

that's strange because they said the out cross was a success so a lot of bitches got lined with the same out cross dog and the line is still throwing top class workers to this day

[onion jonny 526]

go speak to peter tulip(jm) from durham he traced the so called seals back and found they were a mix of terriers including a wire coated russell and even a crossbred dachshund i think john even did an article or included it in one of his writings in the EDRD, , MR and CR had some good digging dogs from this stuff but they were only sealy look alikes on a vid i have of the fm it interviews JT and he himself cant say they are sealys but that they look the same as whats on the cover of lucas'es book, the cork dogs were already a good terrier which has in its make up english bull and fox terrier all well back and so long ago it may have no bearing on the dogs of today if i remember right there is also a bert gripton terrier in the mix. this is my take on these dogs if anyone else thinks differently good you may be correct

Edited October 7, 2014 by snagbrac

[Stabs 3]

The crossbred dachshund was a dog called Jasper owned by my uncle and I always thought it was a Sealyham until I read that same article. I have a dog here named after him.

[andy26 618]

go speak to peter tulip(jm) from durham he traced the so called seals back and found they were a mix of terriers including a wire coated russell and even a crossbred dachshund i think john even did an article or included it in one of his writings in the EDRD, , MR and CR had some good digging dogs from this stuff but they were only sealy look alikes on a vid i have of the fm it interviews JT and he himself cant say they are sealys but that they look the same as whats on the cover of lucas'es book, the cork dogs were already a good terrier which has in its make up english bull and fox terrier all well back and so long ago it may have no bearing on the dogs of today if i remember right there is also a bert gripton terrier in the mix. this is my take on these dogs if anyone else thinks differently good you may be correct

your right there is all sorts in them there would have to be to keep a working line going or they would just become far to close so you need it out cross jt line f****d up by lining to close all the time and became little ratty things there is gripton stuff in off years ago there is duggons CR JT and MR stuff as well and others in the make up some come out rough an smooth coated some straight an queen Anne legges it's just the way the line is an yes the cork line was good but they started to get to close that's why they were screaming out for a out cross to keep it going that's why it's still going today because the out cross was a success

[pablo esc 1,598]

Hey if you so good and a few breeds in their you won't need an outcross,

[searcher 14]

 

i think John even did an article or included it in one of his writings in the EDRD...............Anyone know what issue the article could of been in?bit of a long shot I know but would be interested in reading it.

Edited October 7, 2014 by searcher

[andy26 618]

Hey if you so good and a few breeds in their you won't need an outcross,

I don't need a out cross the cork lads did years ago get in touch with them I'm sure they will be able to explain it to you better

[pablo esc 1,598]

Having a laugh arnt you, better things to be doing, like the one i got today

[andy26 618]

Eh that doesn't make one bit of sense to me

[TUFFTY 1,476]

None of them are sealyhams

But crosses? Correct?

[Waz 4,262]

None of them are sealyhams

But crosses? Correct?

Types maybe?