Alan 123 2 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 simple fact is u cant get a runing dog hard fit by hand walking alone they do enjoy it but get very little out of it their body just gets used 2 the dailey routine so walking is a must but why no treadmill aswell if u have 1 they r especialy good if the weather is bad not many dogs or men like trudgeing around in cold rain unless u are out hunting asmany diffrent types of exersize can only b good if uwork your dog say once a week it would not be out of the way 2 suplament their daily walks with 2 or 3 5to 10 milers extra depending on wat x u have t do that the dog must b getting good wholesom grub a bit extra vitamin and a warm dry bed arule i also is if they look a bit flat and tired they probably are so igive them a day of it does more good than harm running by a byke or car is also exelent stress rest = success Quote Link to post
Guest Defender Poacher Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I like to run mine alongside the push bike that way I get a bit exercise to Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) The can give basic exercise but it is all in a limited set of movements, no change of direction speed etc, so you will not get such good development. This is minimised with ball work etc but try training on a treadmill then entering a cross country race and you'll end up with ankle strains etc. As a standby if you really can't get out then OK but it's never going to be as good as getting out, I run with the dogs, about half at heel on pavements etc and half free running across country or beach. Edited January 27, 2010 by sandymere Quote Link to post
BRICKTOP 126 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 you only get out your dog what you put into it, i also spent 20 mins on rubbin dog down with a good embrocation which stimulated muscles and blood circulation,before and after exercise. Quote Link to post
sako trg 1 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 you only get out your dog what you put into it, i also spent 20 mins on rubbin dog down with a good embrocation which stimulated muscles and blood circulation,before and after exercise. good point I think its just as important to warm your dog down after exercise.as for treadmills used in line with traditonal forms of exercise why not? Quote Link to post
berty1 8 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 A treadmill is a good, no great supplement to exercise. Obviously you need to walk and run your dog as normal but a treadmill will do no harm at all as long as its used right!!! I dont understand why some people are against them so strongly??? Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 which type of mill is better? self propelled or electric one? Quote Link to post
im slippy 4 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 slat mill Quote Link to post
nicksringo 5 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) slat mill slat one is for the bulldogs ,best one for the running dogs is the electric one, must be variable speed and have a 6ft bed, have owned both and done both dogs on them , i prefer the 2nd mill as not all dogs take to the slat mill cause of the noise some of them make ,how ever its up to you what you and your dogs like,what ever one you have got you must walk them out after a work out and a good rub down after , Edited January 27, 2010 by nicksringo Quote Link to post
ROBERTO M 350 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have to be carefull what i say here as i think this could be a ploy from Alan into my conditioning secrets lol , personally i think mills are a lazi mans tool as far as coursing dogs are concerned , I think early season they may come in handy , to tighten a dog up before you start any real hard training, but even then if your dogs are walked and allowed free running they should be ready for it .. I no every one circumstances are different and not every body has as much time as others , but if you want good dogs , you have to make time , The only real way to prepare your dogs is behind the car , im sure Big All will back me up on this lol, the real secret of conditioning isnt getting the dog fit , its keeping the dog fit , and a dog that is kept fit "should " last you longer , and not pick up as many injurys , with a bit of luck !!!!!!!!!this is just my opinion ........ Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have to be carefull what i say here as i think this could be a ploy from Alan into my conditioning secrets lol , personally i think mills are a lazi mans tool as far as coursing dogs are concerned , I think early season they may come in handy , to tighten a dog up before you start any real hard training, but even then if your dogs are walked and allowed free running they should be ready for it .. I no every one circumstances are different and not every body has as much time as others , but if you want good dogs , you have to make time , The only real way to prepare your dogs is behind the car , im sure Big All will back me up on this lol, the real secret of conditioning isnt getting the dog fit , its keeping the dog fit , and a dog that is kept fit "should " last you longer , and not pick up as many injurys , with a bit of luck !!!!!!!!!this is just my opinion ........ by keeping them fit, do you mean the right rest to graft ratio? age appropriate level of graft, not over working them, sort of close observation of the dogs daily condition after running exercise etc. Im not to sure wether to bother with the treadmill, mine get many miles a day across a variety of terrain,obviously the go up and down the gears during it, I plan to run them behind the motor prior to the season starting, what sort of distances and speeds do you recommend? I have an idea, just wanna cross reference of you lads in the know, see if Im on the right track, mine are gonna be around 18 month by start of next season, they on a good diet and are fit as fiddles, atvb Richard Quote Link to post
ROBERTO M 350 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have to be carefull what i say here as i think this could be a ploy from Alan into my conditioning secrets lol , personally i think mills are a lazi mans tool as far as coursing dogs are concerned , I think early season they may come in handy , to tighten a dog up before you start any real hard training, but even then if your dogs are walked and allowed free running they should be ready for it .. I no every one circumstances are different and not every body has as much time as others , but if you want good dogs , you have to make time , The only real way to prepare your dogs is behind the car , im sure Big All will back me up on this lol, the real secret of conditioning isnt getting the dog fit , its keeping the dog fit , and a dog that is kept fit "should " last you longer , and not pick up as many injurys , with a bit of luck !!!!!!!!!this is just my opinion ........ by keeping them fit, do you mean the right rest to graft ratio? age appropriate level of graft, not over working them, sort of close observation of the dogs daily condition after running exercise etc. Im not to sure wether to bother with the treadmill, mine get many miles a day across a variety of terrain,obviously the go up and down the gears during it, I plan to run them behind the motor prior to the season starting, what sort of distances and speeds do you recommend? I have an idea, just wanna cross reference of you lads in the know, see if Im on the right track, mine are gonna be around 18 month by start of next season, they on a good diet and are fit as fiddles, atvb Richard its hard to say , every dog is different , and you cant train them all the same , start your dog of slow and build it up !!!!! Quote Link to post
Top Lamper 2k10 169 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 just got a tredmill for my dogs and its f****n torcher trying to learn them to go it any tips Quote Link to post
Alan 123 2 Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 just got a tredmill for my dogs and its f****n torcher trying to learn them to go it any tips cliped in from front and back so they are in midle of bed and carnt scoot off back or jump of front start of slow i never go faster than a steady jog no real reason just they seam comftable at that Quote Link to post
Alan 123 2 Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have to be carefull what i say here as i think this could be a ploy from Alan into my conditioning secrets lol , personally i think mills are a lazi mans tool as far as coursing dogs are concerned , I think early season they may come in handy , to tighten a dog up before you start any real hard training, but even then if your dogs are walked and allowed free running they should be ready for it .. I no every one circumstances are different and not every body has as much time as others , but if you want good dogs , you have to make time , The only real way to prepare your dogs is behind the car , im sure Big All will back me up on this lol, the real secret of conditioning isnt getting the dog fit , its keeping the dog fit , and a dog that is kept fit "should " last you longer , and not pick up as many injurys , with a bit of luck !!!!!!!!!this is just my opinion ........ by keeping them fit, do you mean the right rest to graft ratio? age appropriate level of graft, not over working them, sort of close observation of the dogs daily condition after running exercise etc. Im not to sure wether to bother with the treadmill, mine get many miles a day across a variety of terrain,obviously the go up and down lan to run them behind the motor prior to the season starting, what sort of distances and speeds do you recommend? I have an idea, just wanna cross reference of you lads in the know, see if Im on the right track, mine are gonna be around 18 month by start of next season, they on a good diet and are fit as fiddles, atvb Richard have to check with my adviser roberto m lol but i think he means over work is as bad as under work and keeping a dog in good shap is a 365 days a year job i would not only jog them behind a motor prior but through out inbetwen runing days iwud always rest befor runing days and after distanse 5 to 10 mile depending on dog and 15 mph with afew sprints thrown in what do u think roberto Quote Link to post
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